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luckiestman

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The #Bengals have released LB Vontaze Burfict, source said.

This reminds me of a great moment in podcast history. BS pod with the Cuz. They used to pitch fake shows to each other. It’s best if you can listen to it. Someone on reddit transcribed it:

“Episode 48: (~38:05): The Cuz says, “Remember Bronson Pinchot”? (says it like “Pinch-it”) Well, he goes by Bronson "Pinch-it" now, he is trying to revitalize his career. Vontaze Burfict (Cincy Bengals) is also in it. They both live together. Vontaze just beats the shit out of Bronson. Every episode. Vontaze can’t take the accent. It streams at the Shell gas station. On those little video monitors. You have to watch all episodes there. It is called "Burfict Strangers".

That link is a phenomenal piece of work; time-stamping and providing a description of all the fake shows they came up with. I went back and listened to all of these last week. Wish they’d bring this bit back!”

https://www.reddit.com/r/billsimmons/comments/40z9wd/list_of_all_the_made_up_tv_shows/?st=JM9HJPNJ&sh=383e9930
 

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because you haven't seen The Manchurian Candidate.
No, I never saw The Manchurian Candidate: or Murder, She Said. I know what it's about and, um, you're right. He also has a great sense of humor, right. I hope so
 

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That’s a pretty low price.
Yeah. Basically a salary dump. Amazing how short NFL RB careers are. Almost 3400 yards and 24 TDs in first 3 years in league and....he’s gone for nothing.

Yards / attempt have gone from 5.2 to 4.1 to 3.7. Seems like a Jeremy Hill redux.
 

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Shane Lechler officially retires. He didn't play last season. Leaves active just picks 17 and 199 from the 2000 draft
 

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That 2000 NFL draft, top 10 picks by career AV, as calculated by profootball-reference.com:

1. Tom Brady (6th round, #199): 175
2. Brian Urlacher (1st round, #9): 118
3. John Abraham (1st round, #13): 91
4. Shaun Ellis (1st round, #12): 75
5. Julian Peterson (1st round, #16): 75
6. Keith Bulluck (1st round, #30): 73
7. Chad Clifton (2nd round, #44): 72
8. Brad Meester (2nd round, #60): 72
9. Jamal Lewis (1st round, #5): 71
10. Shaun Alexander (1st round, #19): 70

The Jets had two first round picks in that draft, back-to-back, and selected Ellis and Abraham. Ellis was with the pick they received from NE in exchange for Bill Belichick.

The total career AV for Ellis and Abraham - two excellent players for many years - was 166. Or... 9 short of what Tom Brady has amassed by himself.
 

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Shane Lechler officially retires. He didn't play last season. Leaves active just picks 17 and 199 from the 2000 draft
What is incredible is that only Brees is left from 2001, no one from 2002-2003 then you have the corpse of Eli, Big Ben and Rivers all still left from 2004.
 

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I wouldn't pay $22K, but I'd pony up a decent amount to experience the Pats War Room once, not that they would ever do something like this.
 

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I’m 100% sure you would be required to sign an NDA. Would be a cool experience - although I feel like you’d need a travel guide to translate who they were discussing (player wise) and whom the team was talking with on the phone for each conversation (team wise). I’d also be fascinated to hear the trading of information between reporters and GM/assistants or even with other teams.
 

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I’m 100% sure you would be required to sign an NDA. Would be a cool experience - although I feel like you’d need a travel guide to translate who they were discussing (player wise) and whom the team was talking with on the phone for each conversation (team wise). I’d also be fascinated to hear the trading of information between reporters and GM/assistants or even with other teams.
Not only NDA but I would bet they take your cell phone too. Pretty cool idea though.
 

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and yeah I'm positive they'd take your cell phone. Not that they'll detect the subcutaneous listening device that Q Ernie Adams put on the guy's arm.

The half dozen draft obsessives here would probably get massive value out of it, but while it'd be a fun experience for me I'm not sure I'd be able to follow enough, or hear enough of the chatter between the GM and his lieutenants, to really understand the thought process and how everything works. I mean, do you get to listen in to the 350 trade-proposal calls Belichick makes to each team?
 

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I'd get bored if it wasn't a team I had interest in, or didn't have personalities that would be fun to hear in that environment.

Beyond the Patriots room, I think the Raiders, Seahawks, Sants and Cowboys would be the first who come to mind.
 

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What is incredible is that only Brees is left from 2001, no one from 2002-2003 then you have the corpse of Eli, Big Ben and Rivers all still left from 2004.
Av was mentioned.
Phil Dawson entered in 1999 udfa (Pats actually had him before the Browns)
Matt bryant entered in 2002 albeit via NFL europe - Both are free agents and not retired as far as I can tell.
Josh Mccown is 2002 - FA not retired
Peppers was 2002 but retired Feb 2019
 

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That 2000 NFL draft, top 10 picks by career AV, as calculated by profootball-reference.com:

1. Tom Brady (6th round, #199): 175
2. Brian Urlacher (1st round, #9): 118
3. John Abraham (1st round, #13): 91
4. Shaun Ellis (1st round, #12): 75
5. Julian Peterson (1st round, #16): 75
6. Keith Bulluck (1st round, #30): 73
7. Chad Clifton (2nd round, #44): 72
8. Brad Meester (2nd round, #60): 72
9. Jamal Lewis (1st round, #5): 71
10. Shaun Alexander (1st round, #19): 70

The Jets had two first round picks in that draft, back-to-back, and selected Ellis and Abraham. Ellis was with the pick they received from NE in exchange for Bill Belichick.

The total career AV for Ellis and Abraham - two excellent players for many years - was 166. Or... 9 short of what Tom Brady has amassed by himself.
So they got the 3rd and 4th best players in that draft picking 12th and 13th? I'd say any team would take those results.
 

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That 2000 NFL draft, top 10 picks by career AV, as calculated by profootball-reference.com:

1. Tom Brady (6th round, #199): 175
2. Brian Urlacher (1st round, #9): 118
3. John Abraham (1st round, #13): 91
4. Shaun Ellis (1st round, #12): 75
5. Julian Peterson (1st round, #16): 75
6. Keith Bulluck (1st round, #30): 73
7. Chad Clifton (2nd round, #44): 72
8. Brad Meester (2nd round, #60): 72
9. Jamal Lewis (1st round, #5): 71
10. Shaun Alexander (1st round, #19): 70

The Jets had two first round picks in that draft, back-to-back, and selected Ellis and Abraham. Ellis was with the pick they received from NE in exchange for Bill Belichick.

The total career AV for Ellis and Abraham - two excellent players for many years - was 166. Or... 9 short of what Tom Brady has amassed by himself.
I wonder how that compares to other years. I imagine most years won’t have a 1 as high as Brady (probably just the years with Peyton, Drew, maybe Rodgers), but for total AV over 2-10?
 

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I'm just surprised that the first 8 picks of the draft sucked so bad. Plaxico Burress jokes aside, there were some big misses in there.
 

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I'm just surprised that the first 8 picks of the draft sucked so bad. Plaxico Burress jokes aside, there were some big misses in there.
Courtney Brown and Peter Warrick were busts but the rest of the top 8 had pretty long and distinguished NFL careers. Though I'll give you Corey Simon he was much closer to being just a guy then he was to the expectations for the 6th overall pick.
But
Arrington made 3 pro bowls and was 2nd team All Pro 3 times.
Samuels was a 6 time pro bowler whose career was made shorter by one big injury
Lewis and Thomas both rushed for over 10k yards in their careers

It's missing a transcendent player for sure but this seems like a pretty typical top 8 of an NFL draft
 

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For sure. They did very well.

Just goes to show how unbelievable Brady has been.
Honestly, I came away impressed by both Abraham and Ellis' careers. Brady is second all time in AV and will pass Manning for first place in 2019, that the Jets drafted two guys in the first round who almost equaled his AV is pretty fucking good.
 

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I'd get bored if it wasn't a team I had interest in, or didn't have personalities that would be fun to hear in that environment.

Beyond the Patriots room, I think the Raiders, Seahawks, Sants and Cowboys would be the first who come to mind.
Fun to hear? The Cowboys have only drafted better since they stuck Jerry in a corner with a lap dancer. Have at it.

I think Lynch is one of the few that would be cool with this. He's not going to give away the store to some schmo, but his public statements suggest that he doesn't view GM-tactics as some sort of launch code that has to be protected.
 

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Anyone else find it interesting that we haven’t heard any updates on the Tyreek Hill situation/investigation?
 

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49ers war room.
On the right are two men in conversation who began their NFL front office careers in the early to mid 00s. Adam Peters with the Patriots, and Martin Mayhew when an ex-teammate became President and CEO of the Detroit Lions. Matt Millen. John Lynch made Adam Peters his first hire, and hired ex-teammate Martin Mayhew. Side Note: Jim Schwarz takes plenty of blame for his time as HC of the Lions, but they improved their first three years under him, and poor drafts were a large part of his downfall the final two years.

Paraag Maranthe is on the left, doing the financial side of the salary cap and contracts.

Kyle Shanahan has John Lynch as his voice in every conversation, with others to handle GM tasks that come with experience. I'd imagine this is what scared Joe Ellis from hiring Kyle Shanahan with the Broncos. Adam Peters worked with Elway since he became President and GM in 2011. Elway could have remained President of Football Operations(probably a more appropriate job for John Lynch), promoted Adam Peters to GM, and hired Kyle Shanahan. Mike Shanahan certainly still has input, which would have been too much for Joe Ellis. Martin Mayhew would be on NFL Network or unemployed.

John York is pacing in front of the draft board so he can be in the way while not giving a shit and being on his phone.