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Clowney for 2020 3rd rounder, LB Mingo & Jacob Martin.

My god, what a fleece job in favor of Seattle. If Clowney walks, a high comp pick too.

Caserio's butterfly effect continues.
This is so much better than I could have expected. Mingo wasn't expected to make the team, so that's a freebie AND gets $4.1M off the cap with only $1.1M dead money. Martin has shown a little bit of potential, but Clowney is a massive upgrade. If they don't sign him to a deal, they'l still get a pick relatively close to the pick they are giving up.

Mingo was the 7th highest cap charge on the team this year. Huge plus to clear him alone. Schneider is a fucking magician.
 

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This is so much better than I could have expected. Mingo wasn't expected to make the team, so that's a freebie AND gets $4.1M off the cap with only $1.1M dead money. Martin has shown a little bit of potential, but Clowney is a massive upgrade. If they don't sign him to a deal, they'l still get a pick relatively close to the pick they are giving up.

Mingo was the 7th highest cap charge on the team this year. Huge plus to clear him alone. Schneider is a fucking magician.
I think a lot of that has to do with Clowney refusing a trade to MIA and forcing his way to SEA or PHI. HOU had little to no leverage.
 

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The Texans had to know about what he would cost to sign. If you aren’t going to give him the $ trade him before the draft.
 

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I think a lot of that has to do with Clowney refusing a trade to MIA and forcing his way to SEA or PHI. HOU had little to no leverage.
Be that as it may, here's a summary of the offseason per a tweet by Aaron Levine , the local sports director in Seattle for Fox.

John Schneider began this offseason with four draft picks and Frank Clark and ended it with 11 draft picks (including three in the first two rounds) and Jadeveon Clowney.
 

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SOURCE: The #Jets have released third-round pick Jachai Polite

Edit: He had some character concerns exposed in the pre-draft process. He also did not test well and showed up out of shape to the combine.
 

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Speaking of former SoSH draft binkys, Giants cut QB Kyle Lauletta
 

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Pats need to be all over this guy. Perfect depth guy for this team.
Matt Dolloff had this to say back in March:

"DE Noah Spence, Buccaneers
2019 Salary: $1,273,132

Originally drafted 39th overall in 2016 out of Eastern Kentucky, Spence is practically a bust at this point. Though he's dealt with injuries during his career, he hasn't come close to panning out as an edge rusher. However he did flash some playmaking as a rookie with 5.5 sacks, 12 QB hits, and 3 forced fumbles. Todd Bowles is about to switch the Tampa defense to 3-4, which makes Spence less of a fit. The Patriots and new defensive coordinator Greg Schiano have recently favored 4-3 in base looks, so Spence is a perfect opportunity for Belichick to get an expendable young pass-rusher for next-to-nothing and try to tap into his potential."

 

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Matt Dolloff had this to say back in March:

"DE Noah Spence, Buccaneers
2019 Salary: $1,273,132

Originally drafted 39th overall in 2016 out of Eastern Kentucky, Spence is practically a bust at this point. Though he's dealt with injuries during his career, he hasn't come close to panning out as an edge rusher. However he did flash some playmaking as a rookie with 5.5 sacks, 12 QB hits, and 3 forced fumbles. Todd Bowles is about to switch the Tampa defense to 3-4, which makes Spence less of a fit. The Patriots and new defensive coordinator Greg Schiano have recently favored 4-3 in base looks, so Spence is a perfect opportunity for Belichick to get an expendable young pass-rusher for next-to-nothing and try to tap into his potential."

He could be this year's Mingo.
 

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One thing that seems pretty clear: Flores didn’t think much of the culture he inherited.

On paper Tunsil is a key building block but obvious the team didn’t think so
 

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How will these moves by Houston impact Caserio’s desire to go there? Franchise left tackle but no draft capital
 

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One thing that seems pretty clear: Flores didn’t think much of the culture he inherited.

On paper Tunsil is a key building block but obvious the team didn’t think so
Tunsil kept parking his Mercedes in the Coach's reserved spot.

WTF is Houston thinking? They're trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for Tunsil/Stills?????
As noted above, O'B knows he is running out of runway in Houston.
 

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Wow—initial reports suggested just one first and lesser picks, but getting two 1s and a 2 is a pretty good haul for Tunsil (and Stills)
 

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Here are the moves by the Titans and Lions, with whom the Patriots held joint practices. Wonder if anyone here caught NE's eye:

Detroit Lions

S Andrew Adams, OL Luke Bowanko, CB Andre Chachere, WR Jordan Lasley, DE Eric Lee, WR Tommylee Lewis, DE Mitchell Loewen, T Ryan Pope, P Ryan Santoso, G Micah St. Andrew, CB Jamar Summers, CB Teez Tabor, RB James Williams, DT PJ Johnson, CB Johnathan Alston, DT John Atkins, LB Malik Carney, TE Jerome Cunningham, T Andrew Donnal, LB Garret Dooley, WR Jonathan Duhart, DT P.J. Johnson, DT Fredrick Jones WR Tom Kennedy, C Leo Koloamatangi, LB Steven Longa, TE Isaac Nauta, T Matt Nelson, QB Luis Perez, LB Anthony Pittman, WR Brandon Powell, QB Tom Savage, DT Ray Smith, RB Justin Stockton, CB Teez Tabor, RB Mark Thompson, TE Austin Traylor, S Charles Washington, DE Jonathan Wynn, WR Andy Jones

Tennessee Titans

P Austin Barnard, RB Alex Barnes, DL Amani Bledsoe, LB Eric Cotton, DB Kenneth Durden, LB Ukeme Eligwe, OL Hroniss Grasu, OL A.T. Hall, TE Parker Hesse, DL Frank Herron, TE Ryan Hewitt, WR Cody Hollister, DL Braxton Hoyett, RB Akeem Hunt, DB Michael Jordan, LB LaTroy Lewis, OL Corey Levin, OL Tyler Marz, WR Tanner McEvoy, RB Jeremy McNichols, DL Chris Nelson, DB Kareem Orr, OL Austin Pasztor, DB D'Andre Payne, LB Derick Roberson, LB Quart'e Sapp, OL Aaron Stinnie, DB JoJo Tillery, DB LaDarius Wiley, WR Anthony Ratliff-Williams, WR Papi White, QB Logan Woodside, WR DeAngelo Yancey
 

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Here are the moves by the Titans and Lions, with whom the Patriots held joint practices. Wonder if anyone here caught NE's eye:

Detroit Lions

S Andrew Adams, OL Luke Bowanko, CB Andre Chachere, WR Jordan Lasley, DE Eric Lee, WR Tommylee Lewis, DE Mitchell Loewen, T Ryan Pope, P Ryan Santoso, G Micah St. Andrew, CB Jamar Summers, CB Teez Tabor, RB James Williams, DT PJ Johnson, CB Johnathan Alston, DT John Atkins, LB Malik Carney, TE Jerome Cunningham, T Andrew Donnal, LB Garret Dooley, WR Jonathan Duhart, DT P.J. Johnson, DT Fredrick Jones WR Tom Kennedy, C Leo Koloamatangi, LB Steven Longa, TE Isaac Nauta, T Matt Nelson, QB Luis Perez, LB Anthony Pittman, WR Brandon Powell, QB Tom Savage, DT Ray Smith, RB Justin Stockton, CB Teez Tabor, RB Mark Thompson, TE Austin Traylor, S Charles Washington, DE Jonathan Wynn, WR Andy Jones

Tennessee Titans

P Austin Barnard, RB Alex Barnes, DL Amani Bledsoe, LB Eric Cotton, DB Kenneth Durden, LB Ukeme Eligwe, OL Hroniss Grasu, OL A.T. Hall, TE Parker Hesse, DL Frank Herron, TE Ryan Hewitt, WR Cody Hollister, DL Braxton Hoyett, RB Akeem Hunt, DB Michael Jordan, LB LaTroy Lewis, OL Corey Levin, OL Tyler Marz, WR Tanner McEvoy, RB Jeremy McNichols, DL Chris Nelson, DB Kareem Orr, OL Austin Pasztor, DB D'Andre Payne, LB Derick Roberson, LB Quart'e Sapp, OL Aaron Stinnie, DB JoJo Tillery, DB LaDarius Wiley, WR Anthony Ratliff-Williams, WR Papi White, QB Logan Woodside, WR DeAngelo Yancey
WR Tom Kennedy from Detroit. He went to Bryant University and played lacrosse for 3 years as an undergrad. He wanted to play football during his grad year. Had great numbers at Bryant. The only scout at his pro day was a Patriots scout (kind of obvious).
Seems like a player BB might want to look into