2019 NFL Draft Rounds 4-7 Game Thread - Spoilers Welcome

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Here’s kind of a recap on day three trades. It’s really interesting. It gives you a sense of why they like seventh rounders and use them strategically.

They started the day with three fourth rounders and four seventh rounders. They used the first two fourth rounders. Then they used one of the seventh rounders to bridge the difference in turning the last fourth into two fifths. Then they used two more sevenths to move the fifth rounders up a couple of spots to get their guys.

Netting it all out they essentially gave up three seventh round picks to turn a fourth into two fifths and then to improve both of the fifth rounders into better picks.

Put more simply, they used three seventh rounders (total value of 3 points) to turn a late fourth round pick (no. 134, 38.5 points) into two slightly less valuable players (no. 159, 27.4 points, no.163, 25.8 points).
 

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I really like what the Pats have done, but it also harkens back to a comment attributed to Belichick from a few years ago that at this point in his coaching career, he just wants to coach “his guys”.

All of this year’s picks come from Power 5 schools, with the SEC leading the way (Williams, Harris, Stidham, Denmark...). 2 from B1G, 2 from PAC12, one from BigXII. (Doesn’t include whoever they may/may not select in the 7th.) Lots of program familiarity, high quality of competition. In a relative sense, safe.

I’m sure some of the UDFAs will come from obscure places, but it is striking how the draftees all come from “big” schools, in contrast to years past.

Edit: 5 SEC now with Webster...
 
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At this point in the draft, many players would rather not get picked and be able to steer towards a team as an UDFA.
 

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I love my military LS picks, but awesomeness of name aside, Cutting isn't remotely the guy I take there. Ugh. Are the Vikes concerned with McDermott having lost part of his left pinky last year in an opposing facemask? Finished out the year okay enough.
 

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Patriots fifth-round punter Jake Bailey says Super Bowl LIII was one of his favorite games to watch ... because of all those punts. “I was fired up,” he said.
I love Jack Bailey as a football brain, even more for this. Called out the BS behind net average and such, noting that punts are context/LOS dependent. It's kind of an amusing sentiment given he's on the Pats given it's exactly what I find so valuable about Ryan Allen.
 
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https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ken-webster?id=32195745-4271-4947-abf7-9dc2a822a6f7

Kendarius Webster was the 2013 Class 4A Defensive Player of the Year in Georgia as a high school senior with seven interceptions and also had three returns for touchdowns. The four-star prospect signed on in Oxford for the 2014 season, receiving a fair amount of playing time, even starting one of the 12 games in which he played (22 tackles, two pass breakups). He started all 13 games as a sophomore, posting 41 tackles, three for loss, an interception and 11 pass breakups. Webster had five tackles and two pass breakups against Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl at the end of the year. Unfortunately, he missed every game except the opener of the 2016 season after tearing multiple knee ligaments in Week 1. Webster was suspended (along with one of his teammates) for the first game of the 2017 season due to a shoplifting arrest. He started five of the 10 games he played that year, compiling 29 tackles, 1.5 for loss, and two pass breakups. Webster was a part-time starter in 2018 as well (three of 10 games played), but tied for the team lead with two interceptions while making 33 tackles and six pass breakups

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I really like what the Pats have done, but it also harkens back to a comment attributed to Belichick from a few years ago that at this point in his coaching career, he just wants to coach “his guys”.

All of this year’s picks come from Power 5 schools, with the SEC leading the way (Williams, Harris, Stidham, Denmark...). 2 from B1G, 2 from PAC12, one from BigXII. (Doesn’t include whoever they may/may not select in the 7th.) Lots of program familiarity, high quality of competition. In a relative sense, safe.

I’m sure some of the UDFAs will come from obscure places, but it is striking how the draftees all come from “big” schools, in contrast to years past.

Edit: 5 SEC now with Webster...
Maybe it's related to new rules regarding more limited practice sessions, as in lean towards players from big-time programs since they can ramp up more quickly.
 

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I love my military LS picks, but awesomeness of name aside, Cutting isn't remotely the guy I take there. Ugh. Are the Vikes concerned with McDermott having lost part of his left pinky last year in an opposing facemask? Finished out the year okay enough.
Sounds like he will have to honor his military commitment, although I guess if they drafted him the Vikes must figure they can get something worked out so that he can do both.
 

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Pats get an A from NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001028874/article/2019-nfl-draft-final-quicksnap-grades-for-all-32-teams


Day 1 grade: A
Day 2 grade: A-
Day 3 grade: A-
Overall grade: A
Draft analysis: When Rob Gronkowski had to move outside in the playoffs this past season, it was pretty clear that New England needed a reliable big receiver to win downfield. Harry should meet that need quite well.

The Patriots' interest in Williams was not a well-kept secret -- he had the versatility they needed in the secondary. Giving up a third-round pick to go get him was not a Belichickian-type move, but if they had a first-round grade on him, I won't blame them for making the deal. They found a steal in Winovich in the third round. He's the type of high-motor, versatile lineman who will be a factor early on. Harris is an all-around talent who was worthy of a selection 20 picks earlier than his drafting spot. Cajuste has injury issues and doesn't have the greatest feet, but he could work his way into starting at right tackle.

Froholdt is an athletic and tough-minded Dane who fits the Patriots' Way. Bill Belichick hopes that he can work Stidham into another strong-armed pocket passer; choosing him was a solid value in the fourth round. Cowart and Webster add depth to the defense. Ryan Allen had the 19th-ranked net punting average in the league last year, so his days are numbered with Bailey in the fold.
 

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The ESPN post-draft special gave out draft grades. In the AFC East, Pats got an A-, Bills got a B+ and Jets and Dolphins got B's. They all liked Winovich the most as a value pick.
 

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8. We’ve already talked a lot about the Patriots draft picks, but can we discuss the fact that Hjalte Froholdt, the offensive lineman they drafted in the fourth round, apparently wanted to be an “art thief” as a child? Froholdt already had an unconventional background for NFL draft picks, having grown up in Denmark and spent a year as an exchange student at a high school in Ohio before playing for Arkansas, but nothing tops this nugget of information. The exchange, per the Patriots transcript.

Reporter: I read that you wanted to be an art thief when you were little. Is that still in the cards?

Froholdt: I don't know why, but me and my childhood friend, Carl, we wanted to be burglars in France, and you know you grow up and figure out that's kind of frowned upon. Obviously, the dream changed. I think my mom still has the paintings of me [drawing] stick figures stealing diamonds in France.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/27/nfl-draft-2019-patriots-punter-jake-bailey-giants-daniel-jones
 

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8. We’ve already talked a lot about the Patriots draft picks, but can we discuss the fact that Hjalte Froholdt, the offensive lineman they drafted in the fourth round, apparently wanted to be an “art thief” as a child? Froholdt already had an unconventional background for NFL draft picks, having grown up in Denmark and spent a year as an exchange student at a high school in Ohio before playing for Arkansas, but nothing tops this nugget of information. The exchange, per the Patriots transcript.

Reporter: I read that you wanted to be an art thief when you were little. Is that still in the cards?

Froholdt: I don't know why, but me and my childhood friend, Carl, we wanted to be burglars in France, and you know you grow up and figure out that's kind of frowned upon. Obviously, the dream changed. I think my mom still has the paintings of me [drawing] stick figures stealing diamonds in France.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/27/nfl-draft-2019-patriots-punter-jake-bailey-giants-daniel-jones
Love this.

I've only met a handful of Danes over the years, but they are all bonkers. It should be a lot of fun following this guy.
 

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I believe Boston has an art museum that has been the victim of a past unsolved art heist. Sounds like a perfect fit. BB loves guys that can do more than one thing. It's not lacrosse, but its unique.