Ahh, of course. In my haste to make a dumb joke, I got confused. Thanks.Arizona isn’t ASU and saying so in Tempe or Tucson will start a fight.
Jacob Wallace and Matt Cronin we’re both on the board and weren’t selected. Both are sure-fire relievers who are going to be fast-tracked.Such as...? I'm no draft expert, but aside from Noah Song (who has military commitments) I don't see any college arms with the same or better FV as Cannon still available at pick 44 on the Fangraphs "BOARD," for instance. Granted, they might be higher on Cannon than other outlets, in ranking him 48th overall.
I like both picks. Wouldn't just write off Cannon as low-ceiling--as billy ashley noted, he's had a lot of success already with a sub-optimal swing (one of the profiles the smart teams are targeting in the draft now, it seems), and the player development department has to be feeling good about themselves with the start to his pro career Jarren Duran's been having. Not sure if he's a lock to sign below slot but that would be great too obviously.
LOVE this pick. Watched this kid pitch this year at Annapolis, and he has electric stuff.there's your high-risk/high-reward guy
Drafting college relievers with the expectation of them "fast tracking" to the big leagues rarely ever works out.Jacob Wallace and Matt Cronin we’re both on the board and weren’t selected. Both are sure-fire relievers who are going to be fast-tracked.
Craig Hansen likes this post.Drafting college relievers with the expectation of them "fast tracking" to the big leagues rarely ever works out.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/in-the-2019-mlb-draft-it-doesnt-pay-to-be-a-college-reliever/
Last season must've been miserable for you.I just want to have a top five rated farm system in perpetuity. That’s all I really care about
We did this last year with Feltman and he is getting lit up in AA. So I am fine with them going a different route this year if they think that is what is needed to improve the farm systemDrafting college relievers with the expectation of them "fast tracking" to the big leagues rarely ever works out.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/in-the-2019-mlb-draft-it-doesnt-pay-to-be-a-college-reliever/
Yeah it'll be interesting to follow that. They only took one HS player yesterday, who was reported not to have inordinately high bonus demands, so it seems like they might be able to squeeze him in.The Keane kid is a stud. This will be an opportunity to go way over slot to sign him.
Most draft eligible baseball players envision an opportunity to get selected by his home town team. Keane isn’t quite in that category and has been needled for where his loyalties lie.
“I’m a diehard Yankees fan, but if the Red Sox take me, I’ll be happy,” Keane said with a smile. “My father grew up in New York as a Yankees fan, so I became one as well.”
TINSTAAPPOh man, these kids all sound amazing. We're going to win forever.
You don't care about making the playoffs or World Series?I just want to have a top five rated farm system in perpetuity. That’s all I really care about
No. Absolutely not. All I care about is how high our entire farm system is ranked year in and year out. Yes. From where I stand, I see 2018 as a complete failure.You don't care about making the playoffs or World Series?
Lit up? He had a rough first start and has been fine since. In fact, cherry picking here, minus his first two appearances he has 11 K's and 3 BB's in 10.1 IP. He's doing pretty well.We did this last year with Feltman and he is getting lit up in AA. So I am fine with them going a different route this year if they think that is what is needed to improve the farm system
It was actually a three appearance stretch in early May where he gave up 5 hits, 8 ER and 9 BB with only one K that inflated his overall stats. Minus that he’s at 17.1 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, 7 BB, 20K. So pretty damn good. He just lost his stuff for a brief stretch. He may not be on the fast track anymore (or he may be, if that turns out to be just a hiccup) but he definitely has not been getting lit up, as you noted.Lit up? He had a rough first start and has been fine since. In fact, cherry picking here, minus his first two appearances he has 11 K's and 3 BB's in 10.1 IP. He's doing pretty well.
So do we have any speculation on his sleeping habits in the good games vs the bad games?It was actually a three appearance stretch in early May where he gave up 5 hits, 8 ER and 9 BB with only one K that inflated his overall stats. Minus that he’s at 17.1 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, 7 BB, 20K. So pretty damn good. He just lost his stuff for a brief stretch. He may not be on the fast track anymore (or he may be, if that turns out to be just a hiccup) but he definitely has not been getting lit up, as you noted.
Sure consistency is important. And if he’d had a bad outing on 4/16, then another on 4/27, then another on 5/4, then another on 5/13, I’d be more concerned. But when the bulk of his bad outings come in three consecutive appearances I’m less concerned. Could have been sick, could have lost his mechanics a bit, who knows. Bad stretches happen to pitchers, especially developing pitchers. Outside of that 3 game sample he’s been very good. I think people are mostly just taking issue with your characterization of him getting lit up when a deeper dive into the game logs shows his bad performances were both isolated and clustered, and overall he’s actually been doing well.isnt consistency in a RP really important? the fact that he went through a stretch where he was terrible doesnt mean we can just exclude that stretch from his overall season line.
I’m missing a joke here, I think. What is it?So do we have any speculation on his sleeping habits in the good games vs the bad games?
This is Tom Terrific. Anyone now calling someone that is making an incredibly dated reference to a 60 year old mediocre cartoon. So it's right in a sportwriter's wheelhouse.Any example of throwing out good or bad games to make a point has a rich history, and the greatest proponent of this art once speculated about the sleep habits, in exhaustive detail, about a certainb player. Honestly people not knowing about this legendary figure is more disappointing than people not knowing "Tom Terrific" was Seaver.
Well I don’t think it’s crazy to toss (or more accurately, discount) a tightly clustered three game stretch of poor performance when debating how effective he’s been so far, or whether he’s been getting shelled at AA, which was really the argument we were having.Any example of throwing out good or bad games to make a point has a rich history, and the greatest proponent of this art once speculated about the sleep habits, in exhaustive detail, about a certainb player. Honestly people not knowing about this legendary figure is more disappointing than people not knowing "Tom Terrific" was Seaver.
I yearn for the days of Eric Van, whom I assume we are referring to?Any example of throwing out good or bad games to make a point has a rich history, and the greatest proponent of this art once speculated about the sleep habits, in exhaustive detail, about a certainb player. Honestly people not knowing about this legendary figure is more disappointing than people not knowing "Tom Terrific" was Seaver.
Oh, Eric Van. I honestly never paid him much heed, if that’s who we’re talking about.I yearn for the days of Eric Van, whom I assume we are referring to?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/9227396/baseball-stats-revolution-changed-sport-not-culture-espn-magazine
Those were truly the glory days of this board.
Nope it has nothing to do with that . It goes back to an ex member who used to isolate the good stretches of a particular Red Sox catcher from his bad stretches by speculating on his sleeping habbits. Unless you were on this board in 2009 or so you wouldn't get the joke.I don't want to get political, but it does relate to Song:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-announces-intent-to-allow-military-academy-athletes-to-go-pro-and-serve-later/2019/05/06/963b557e-7031-11e9-b5ca-3d72a9fa8ff1_story.html?utm_term=.b3d075c8e69c
I don't know if that would get flipped soon enough to matter for him though.
I ran a simulation on my strat-o-matic on this and the chances of people not knowing about this are 1 in 2,347,421.Any example of throwing out good or bad games to make a point has a rich history, and the greatest proponent of this art once speculated about the sleep habits, in exhaustive detail, about a certain player. Honestly people not knowing about this legendary figure is more disappointing than people not knowing "Tom Terrific" was Seaver.
When we back out the bad games and cherry pick the good ones, we then have to do it for the comparison set. Even among AA Red Sox, not to mention the rest of AA, a 3.7 BB9 when removing the worst 3 games is mediocre.Minus that he’s at 17.1 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, 7 BB, 20K. So pretty damn good.
I wasn't referring to the inside joke.Nope it has nothing to do with that . It goes back to an ex member who used to isolate the good stretches of a particular Red Sox catcher from his bad stretches by speculating on his sleeping habbits. Unless you were on this board in 2009 or so you wouldn't get the joke.
Fair enough. Even subtracting the bad outings his walk rate is too high, for sure. His ERA isn’t incredibly low or high. His WHIP is sub-1.00. Seems solid to me for a 22 year old in AA in his second pro season. Anyway, the argument was whether or not he was being “lit up”. When you’ve got a cluster of horrid outings sandwiched by otherwise solid to good outings, I’d say that’s not a fair characterization of his performance to date. A quick look at his game logs would show that he’s been good far more than bad.I ran a simulation on my strat-o-matic on this and the chances of people not knowing about this are 1 in 2,347,421.
When we back out the bad games and cherry pick the good ones, we then have to do it for the comparison set. Even among AA Red Sox, not to mention the rest of AA, a 3.7 BB9 when removing the worst 3 games is mediocre.
And a 2.63 ERA after removing the worst 3 is actually not good either (compared to other relievers in the minors). And it indicates nothing predictive at all. Nor is it descriptive, due to the cherry picking.
https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/1139947311860260864?s=20