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I figured I would set up the thread in a generic name. I will let one of the more creative posters update the title. Since we are now talking about 2019 Red Bandana games and Dead Daz Walking, we probably shouls flip the page and open up a new thread.
 

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Dead Daz Walking gets my vote

New DB Coach, Eric Lewis, son of NFL DC Sherm Lewis.. looks like he's bounced around a lot but now we have a full staff

Kansas game moved to Friday night so battle of titans, Daz vs Les Miles on Nat TV
 

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Les Miles is my favorite college coach of all time and I really wanted to have a 27 hour fun day of The Who, BC Miles, Billy Joel. Now I have to skip one of the first two.

I hope BC Facilities/Athletics can make the grass extra tasty for Les.
 

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Because it's the offseason, here's a weird esoteric story relating to BC football. I'm sure many of you have seen Fyre Festival in the news recently thanks to the two documentaries released by Netflix and Hulu. The Netflix doc was supported by a company called Jerry Media, who also happens to be the company that promoted Fyre Fest in the first place. Jerry Media is getting major backlash from media figures for being a shitty company that exists because it steals videos and memes from other people and posts them their flagship Instagram page "FuckJerry." (Got all that? Me neither.)

Guess who is the "Chief Content Officer" of Jerry Media?


I had to double check to make sure that name was who I thought it was. Yep, Ryan Ohliger, infuriating and much-maligned BC kicker from the Tom O'Brien era, is now better known for being a professional asshole on Instagram. What a world.
 

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Somehow in their 50-55th rated recruiting class*, they did not sign a kicker. Maybe they're expecting Ohliger to steal one from someplace else.

* I think these recruiting scoreboards are usually a crock and they did ok for themselves. Certainly they are not the 12th best team in the ACC, Daz or no Daz. But no kicker is the type of stuff that kills them year after year.
 

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Just picked up a 4star 2020 recruit Kevin Pyne from Milford. #23 recruit in country and offers from all the Big’uns. He has to be related to the Pyne brothers who played for Va Tech A whie back, I think they were from around Milford
 

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Just picked up a 4star 2020 recruit Kevin Pyne from Milford. #23 recruit in country and offers from all the Big’uns. He has to be related to the Pyne brothers who played for Va Tech A whie back, I think they were from around Milford
Nice. OL-U continues. This kid is tall, 6-7, but only 275, so will need to bulk up some. That said, he was "100%" expected to go to SBCC so this is extra special!
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Kevin-Pyne-99978/RecruitInterests/
 

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Yes there are several Pyne football players, all related to one another going back a couple of generations. I think the first one played for a very early Patriots team.
 

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For those of us out here in California, good news this week as the Holiday Bowl in San Diego will be affiliated with the ACC starting in 2020. There are over 12,000 BC alums in California and CA is the 4th largest home state for current BC students. Additionally there are 3-4 players on the Two deep from CA and BC has inroads to the catholic high schools out here, especially in So Cal.

BC is probably a natural fit for the ACC representative given the above. The game is played mid week of Christmas week so you have a huge alumni and student base out on the west coast and that should generate decent ticket sales, which will make the bowl committee happy. Recent PAC 12 teams that have played in the Holiday include: USC, Washington State, Utah, Arizona State and UCLA. So the opponent should be pretty good. Plus you are in San Diego with plenty of golf, Sea World and Disney (90 minutes away), beaches and fabulous weather. I can see this being a spot BC lands multiple times, assuming they win 8 games. Alternating between New York and SD and the occasional Tier I trip to Florida (Outback Bowl is now an ACC event) are pretty good destinations. Now, if we can just get 8 wins.......
 

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The game accounts indicate they'll just ram it down the other team's throat until they can't, much like 2018 except they perhaps have more guys to do it with.

Any other conclusion can be reached from that game?
 

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Ummm, that Anthony Brown has a problem leading his receivers. He has a tendency to throw to the wrong side of his receivers, forcing them to turn or slow down to catch them, thereby reducing long passing gains. We still have a big problem in the kicking game. Our defense is swiss cheese and will get lit up as there is little to no pass defense off the edge and will put huge pressure on the secondary.

Looks like a 6-6 season at this point.
 

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Ummm, that Anthony Brown has a problem leading his receivers. He has a tendency to throw to the wrong side of his receivers, forcing them to turn or slow down to catch them, thereby reducing long passing gains. We still have a big problem in the kicking game. Our defense is swiss cheese and will get lit up as there is little to no pass defense off the edge and will put huge pressure on the secondary.

Looks like a 6-6 season at this point.
Brown stinks. 6-6 seems about right.
 

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Perhaps true, but what's transpired in the last 2-3 years to put BC in that position? 7 years is a long time. If true, TPTB at BC deserve a lot of credit for hanging on to Daz.
 

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I posted this thought over on the UConn thread. Looks like UConn is going to the Big East so their football team is going independent. They have a big problem in 2020. They need 8 games against FBS opponents. In order to fill that schedule they will have to come hat in hand looking for games and since there are no FBS teams looking for games in 2020, they have to negotiate with probably 4 game opponents to "split" the game and play UConn as opposed to each other.

My thought.....BC has a game they could bail on and help out our little football brother....the Kansas game in Lawrence. BC and Kansas have no business playing each other anywhere, let alone Lawrence, KS. UConn could step in for BC in Lawrence and agree to play BC at Alumni in 2020 as well. They thus would "split" that game. In addition, UConn could play both BC and Kansas on the road in non-conference hoops games. That way BC gets 8 home football games (they still have 9 P5 opponents as they play Purdue at Alumni) save on travel expense, maybe get another home hoops game in 2021 with UConn and get out of this nonsensical Kansas contract.

I think it is a better situation than playing at Kansas. Along with road games at Northern Illinois, yet another tribute to the fantastic scheduling of Brad Bates...NOT

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Depends on how much of a grudge BC holds for being sued by the CT attorney general, I would think.
 

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I posted this thought over on the UConn thread. Looks like UConn is going to the Big East so their football team is going independent. They have a big problem in 2020. They need 8 games against FBS opponents. In order to fill that schedule they will have to come hat in hand looking for games and since there are no FBS teams looking for games in 2020, they have to negotiate with probably 4 game opponents to "split" the game and play UConn as opposed to each other.

My thought.....BC has a game they could bail on and help out our little football brother....the Kansas game in Lawrence. BC and Kansas have no business playing each other anywhere, let alone Lawrence, KS. UConn could step in for BC in Lawrence and agree to play BC at Alumni in 2020 as well. They thus would "split" that game. In addition, UConn could play both BC and Kansas on the road in non-conference hoops games. That way BC gets 8 home football games (they still have 9 P5 opponents as they play Purdue at Alumni) save on travel expense, maybe get another home hoops game in 2021 with UConn and get out of this nonsensical Kansas contract.

I think it is a better situation than playing at Kansas. Along with road games at Northern Illinois, yet another tribute to the fantastic scheduling of Brad Bates...NOT

Thoughts?
This works for everyone. UConn gets two FBS games. An extra home game is obviously a win for BC. And since neither program is a draw in Lawrence, and bowl eligibility is the end goal of a typical KU season, they would probably prefer a near-automatic win over UConn over a competitive game with BC.

It’s an open question whether the schedule can be made to work, of course — splitting the game is the easy part. In that vein, I’m not sure there’s any reason for UConn to make hoops concessions. They won’t have any trouble finding four splits; it’s making the schedule fit that’s the trick, and neither BC nor KU will be able to make special scheduling concessions that might make it worthwhile to agree to a road hoops game that would otherwise be unattractive. (By contrast, G5 teams might have more flexibility to move around conference games to get an extra non-conference home game on the schedule.)
 
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BC to retire Pete Mitchell's jersey on November 9.

Former Boston College tight end Pete Mitchell, who has more receptions (190), receiving yards (2,388), and touchdowns (20) than any other tight end in school history, will have his jersey retired at BC’s game against Florida State Nov. 9.

“We are thrilled to retire Pete’s jersey and congratulate him on this well-earned recognition,” said BC athletic director Martin Jarmond. “He will be remembered forever inside Alumni Stadium with some of the all-time greats to wear the maroon and gold.”

Mitchell, who played for BC from 1991-94, earned first-team All-American honors as a junior in 1993 and was a consensus pick as a senior. He had 13 receptions for 132 yards and two touchdowns in BC’s 41-39 upset of No. 1 Notre Dame in 1993.
 

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I was at that game in South Bend and Mitchell and Mamula just dominated. That was probably the most talented BC team I can remember and I honestly believe BC would have contended for a national championship if Coughlin had stayed.

Well deserved.
 

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Well, the Daz effect is in full force when it comes to scheduling. Home and home with UConn, Army and 2 home games against Holy Cross. Add to that a home and home against Sparty and that is the net effect of the scheduling under the watch of MJ and Daz. To say the out of conference schedule is underwhelming is an understatement. Nobody cares about these games, absent maybe the Army game at West Point (I would recommend that trip to anyone who has never been to a game on the Hudson....it is a sports fan bucket list event).

Daz has never been a fan of a "national" schedule. He thinks it is best to play in the conference and then schedule regional OOC programs (Temple, UConn, UMass, Army, Holy Cross and other local FCS schools). He wants to tee up 4-4 league records and 3-1 OOC records so he goes 7-5, 8-4 and occasionally 9 wins depending on the schedule and strength of opponents. He got the program off the doormat but it will never be more than what you see as far as rankings, etc. Yes, they have Top 25 talent but these guys are held back while in college, they play a very conservative brand of football and will forever be .500 with this guy running the ship. People talk about not getting a top flight QB under his realm....honestly, who would come and play for that offense if you were a top flight QB?

Anyway, as the season is a little over a week away, I still think it looks like a 6-6 record and a low end bowl, maybe in Annapolis....same $%#&, different season. See you on this board over the next few months.
 

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I thought we were boycotting Uconn in revenue sports?
I don't mind holy cross at all
I wouldn't mind msu for on the field
Would have kept army just as a road game if it were me

overall yes this is a disappointment, no possible reward with this schedule
 

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This is BC's OOC opponents for the next 4 years after this one. Can't get much worse than this. Looking beyond 2023 besides Michigan State the P5 oppnents are 2026 return game with Rutgers, 2026/27 home and home with Ohio State and 28/29 a home and home with Stanford.

2020
vs. HC, vs. Ohio U, at Kansas, vs. Purdue

2021
at UMass and Temple
vs. Missouri

2022
vs. Rutgers and UMass
at UConn and ND

2023
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This is BC's OOC opponents for the next 4 years after this one. Can't get much worse than this. Looking beyond 2023 besides Michigan State the P5 oppnents are 2026 return game with Rutgers, 2026/27 home and home with Ohio State and 28/29 a home and home with Stanford.

2020
vs. HC, vs. Ohio U, at Kansas, vs. Purdue

2021
at UMass and Temple
vs. Missouri

2022
vs. Rutgers and UMass
at UConn and ND

2023
vs. HC and UConn
at Army

Bear in mind all of the games you noted, with the exception of Mich State, were scheduled by either GDF or Bates. As to scheduling, MJ has done nothing other than get a home/home with Army, added a HC game and restructured the UConn games. Still need a P5 opponent in 2023 and who knows how the conference schedule will shake out in 2025 or so when the current deal expires. When you play super conservative football, along with uninspiring opponents, and your marketing is behind your competition (regional opponents, drab uniforms., uninspiring game plans, satisfaction with .500 level football) it is a recipe for a snooze fest and no one cares or will watch. College football is at a crossroads as people are not watching or attending these games the way they did in the past. Hell, 2 years ago ND played BC at Alumni and the game was barley a blip on the news feeds. That game used to be all the buzz, at least in Chestnut Hill. Now, not so much. If you want eyeballs on your product, you need to be innovative and exciting....two things I think we all can agree that BC football is in dire need of.

Oh, and after 2023, I say the odds of either Jarmond or Daz still being at BC are around 20%. Jarmond is there to extend a resume to get a bigger job, perhaps back in the B1G or SEC while Daz will have been the HC at BC for 11 years if he coaches in 2023. That's a lifetime in today's college football. They will grab an FCS school, to fill out 2021 and they will get some bottom feeder P5 from the B1G (Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota) or the XII (Kansas again, or Baylor, Texas tech, etc.) and bot will be long gone. Again....nobody cares
 
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This is BC's OOC opponents for the next 4 years after this one. Can't get much worse than this. Looking beyond 2023 besides Michigan State the P5 oppnents are 2026 return game with Rutgers, 2026/27 home and home with Ohio State and 28/29 a home and home with Stanford.

2020
vs. HC, vs. Ohio U, at Kansas, vs. Purdue

2021
at UMass and Temple
vs. Missouri

2022
vs. Rutgers and UMass
at UConn and ND

2023
vs. HC and UConn
at Army
Gross.
 

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Bear in mind all of the games you noted, with the exception of Mich State, were scheduled by either GDF or Bates. As to scheduling, MJ has done nothing other than get a home/home with Army, added a HC game and restructured the UConn games. Still need a P5 opponent in 2023 and who knows how the conference schedule will shake out in 2025 or so when the current deal expires. When you play super conservative football, along with uninspiring opponents, and your marketing is behind your competition (regional opponents, drab uniforms., uninspiring game plans, satisfaction with .500 level football) it is a recipe for a snooze fest and no one cares or will watch. College football is at a crossroads as people are not watching or attending these games the way they did in the past. Hell, 2 years ago ND played BC at Alumni and the game was barley a blip on the news feeds. That game used to be all the buzz, at least in Chestnut Hill. Now, not so much. If you want eyeballs on your product, you need to be innovative and exciting....two things I think we all can agree that BC football is in dire need of.

Oh, and after 2023, I say the odds of either Jarmond or Daz still being at BC are around 20%. Jarmond is there to extend a resume to get a bigger job, perhaps back in the B1G or SEC while Daz will have been the HC at BC for 11 years if he coaches in 2023. That's a lifetime in today's college football. They will grab an FCS school, to fill out 2021 and they will get some bottom feeder P5 from the B1G (Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota) or the XII (Kansas again, or Baylor, Texas tech, etc.) and bot will be long gone. Again....nobody cares
Bernie is right, MJ will be gone once a bigger job opens up, lets be honest, he is young, black, personable, great with media and on social media, he will be on to bigger things for sure B10 most likely

a week away from the start of the season and I've finally figured out what Daz is, he is ToBY with a bad temper, O'Brien Heavy (I just couldn't say O'Brien Lite)

I spoke with someone connected with the program the other day, he is thinking 6-6, sees problems with losses on D and at QB. Said after reviewing the 2nd half of the season 'Brown sucked' I said of course, no Dillon and D was keying on him and the RRPP offence thats no supprise, he thinks Brown has to step it up big time
 

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Bernie is right, MJ will be gone once a bigger job opens up, lets be honest, he is young, black, personable, great with media and on social media, he will be on to bigger things for sure B10 most likely

a week away from the start of the season and I've finally figured out what Daz is, he is ToBY with a bad temper, O'Brien Heavy (I just couldn't say O'Brien Lite)

I spoke with someone connected with the program the other day, he is thinking 6-6, sees problems with losses on D and at QB. Said after reviewing the 2nd half of the season 'Brown sucked' I said of course, no Dillon and D was keying on him and the RRPP offence thats no supprise, he thinks Brown has to step it up big time
Agreed. There is absolutely no reason to believe this squad will be the one that gets Daz past his 7 game glass ceiling. And then really good chance AJ is a goner. VTech is a must win to have any kind of half decent season.
 

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Given that the game is basically blacked out unless you bought the ACC Network, go to a sports bar or are at the game, not sure how much of thread this will be going forward. First three games are on ACC Network.

Honestly can’t see buying this package for a few football games. Anyway, I will catch up with the team on game 4 against Rutgers. I’m sure that will be on BTN which is part of the sports programming tier I have that includes PAC 12, all the ESPN channels, FS1, etc. why the ACC Network requires an upgrade and extra cost is beyond me. You are trying to expand your brand. This does just the opposite. Guess I will follow USC and UCLA our here in Cali.
 

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Amazing, hit on a 40 yard pass then hurry to the line and run AJ up the middle 4 straight times to turn it over. Brown actually looks good, why not let him work and try to get AJ into the open field on a screen pass instead of the same predictable thing we do every series?
 

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Amazing, hit on a 40 yard pass then hurry to the line and run AJ up the middle 4 straight times to turn it over. Brown actually looks good, why not let him work and try to get AJ into the open field on a screen pass instead of the same predictable thing we do every series?
CuzDaz
 

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really nice to beat a real team on a day where dillon/ the o line run blocking didn't do much at all
 

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The only fly in the ointment in that game was the Curse of Fred Steinfort (or whoever you want to name it for) still doesn't seem to have been broken.
 

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BC has a real shot at starting 6-0. Richmond, Kansas, Rutgers, Wake, and Louisville are all teams they should beat. In fact, there's only 2 games on the schedule where they'll be big underdogs(Clemson, ND). Swing games in this season for them are the NC State game and the Syracuse game. If they can win those, they are looking a really nice bowl game.
 

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I was shocked, shocked that Daz tried to run out the clock at the start of the 2nd half with a 28-14 lead... lol.
while ugly, this was a great win to start the season off with, reason i say this is the young lines on Both sides of the ball got a chance to knock heads against legitimate D1 players, rather then the usual opening week cupcakes (Howard/Mass Aggie/ da Cross) etc. I like that we showed some play action and Brown carried more with read option. Flowers can flat out fly, but in the words of DC Parcells 'lets not send him to Canton yet' don't forget the original Jeff Smith's debut vs Clemson

Next two weeks ascare me a little since Richmond has always been a strong FCS program and who knows what the fuck Les Miles will have planned for a Fri night game, but like Red says above 6-0 ain't out of the question
 

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I was shocked, shocked that Daz tried to run out the clock at the start of the 2nd half with a 28-14 lead... lol.
while ugly, this was a great win to start the season off with, reason i say this is the young lines on Both sides of the ball got a chance to knock heads against legitimate D1 players, rather then the usual opening week cupcakes (Howard/Mass Aggie/ da Cross) etc. I like that we showed some play action and Brown carried more with read option. Flowers can flat out fly, but in the words of DC Parcells 'lets not send him to Canton yet' don't forget the original Jeff Smith's debut vs Clemson

Next two weeks ascare me a little since Richmond has always been a strong FCS program and who knows what the fuck Les Miles will have planned for a Fri night game, but like Red says above 6-0 ain't out of the question
Richmond stinks this year. They were picked at the bottom of the CAA pre-season.
 

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The only fly in the ointment in that game was the Curse of Fred Steinfort (or whoever you want to name it for) still doesn't seem to have been broken.
I think it is the Curse of Kid Vicious....

Listened to the game on the iPhone out here as the ACC Network stands for Ain't Comin' Close to being on your set here in California. Won't see a game till Kansas as there is a game watch that night scheduled with a local BC Alumni Chapter at a sports bar not too far from my office. It starts at 4:30PM local time so its a good Friday happy hour take.

As for the team, There is clearly talent.The first 6 games are there for the taking, but remember we still have Daz calling the shots on Game Day. So as Moose says, there is a WTF game probably baked in there (Wake?, Louisville?). Clearly they should be 2-0 for the Kansas game and 3-0 for the Rutgers game in Piscataway on Sept 21. If I was still back East, I might consider heading to Jersey for that game. It would be a good take. I noticed that they named Hunter Long, the third TE on the depth chart to the ACC "all star" team for the week. He is very good. He is the next Pete Mitchell, speaking of old time BC players....much better than Sweeney. he will be playing on Sundays in a few years.

Here is the presser from earlier today:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=ewPP5bBFEUw
 

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Given that the game is basically blacked out unless you bought the ACC Network, go to a sports bar or are at the game, not sure how much of thread this will be going forward. First three games are on ACC Network.

Honestly can’t see buying this package for a few football games. Anyway, I will catch up with the team on game 4 against Rutgers. I’m sure that will be on BTN which is part of the sports programming tier I have that includes PAC 12, all the ESPN channels, FS1, etc. why the ACC Network requires an upgrade and extra cost is beyond me. You are trying to expand your brand. This does just the opposite. Guess I will follow USC and UCLA our here in Cali.
Listened to the game on the iPhone out here as the ACC Network stands for Ain't Comin' Close to being on your set here in California. Won't see a game till Kansas as there is a game watch that night scheduled with a local BC Alumni Chapter at a sports bar not too far from my office. It starts at 4:30PM local time so its a good Friday happy hour take.
If you're a cord-cutter, the ACC Network is part of the standard packages on Hulu, SlingTV, PS Vue, and YouTube TV.