Good. He clearly has positive value at $11m.Alex Speier says they will be tendering a contract to JBJ.
View: https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/1201537434938466304
Good. He clearly has positive value at $11m.Alex Speier says they will be tendering a contract to JBJ.
View: https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/1201537434938466304
Positive value yes, but if the directive is to get under $208 million then his spot is still in jeopardy.Good. He clearly has positive value at $11m.
He can still be signed and traded. Which I expect they will do.Positive value yes, but if the directive is to get under $208 million then his spot is still in jeopardy.
Good. He clearly has positive value at $11m.
Bradley was a super 2, and established a very high base with his elite 2016, so it's true, he's a touch more expensive than many of his peers. Comps for him are hard to find.What are the Market Comps to Jackie Bradley who will be paid $11 million or more next year?
Bradley has positive value, but that value is entirely eaten up by an $11 million salary.
If they want him to play CF again in 2020, it’s fine. If they want to trade him for a similar salaried mediocrity at a different position, that might work. But they won’t get any surplus value in a trade.
Anyone know of any health issues here. Arb eligible, but given his limited play the past couple of seasons he can stand to make a ton. Perhaps Chiam's got something in the works for Mookie and needs to create roster space??? didn't expect to give up on Marco
This move got them down to 34 men on the 40 man so roster space isn’t really an issue.Anyone know of any health issues here. Arb eligible, but given his limited play the past couple of seasons he can stand to make a ton. Perhaps Chiam's got something in the works for Mookie and needs to create roster space?
Maybe he was really AAA insurance in case we couldn’t get Johnson through waivers. Osich isn’t a guy you pencil into an OD pen. This was probably one guy for the first fringy lefty up kind of role. Osich had an option, so if you prefer Johnson and lose him, you still have the role covered.What is the point of claiming Osich only to non-tender him three weeks later?
Not sure I am following this logic. Osich still has an option regardless if Johnson cleared waivers. Johnson is no longer on the 40man roster and still doesn't have an option. If the Sox were to need Johnson, he would need to be added back to the 40man before activating him and he still wouldn't have an option.........for clarity I am not suggesting Osich is any kind of stud or even better than BJ. Just seems unnecessary in hindsight unless they are actual trying to get Osich to clear during the frenzy of activity and then keep both BJ and Osich as depth.Maybe he was really AAA insurance in case we couldn’t get Johnson through waivers. Osich isn’t a guy you pencil into an OD pen. This was probably one guy for the first fringy lefty up kind of role. Osich had an option, so if you prefer Johnson and lose him, you still have the role covered.
Every off-season there are guys that bounce from team to team via the waiver wire. Not every claim is necessarily with an eye toward the guy being a contributor. Maybe they put the waiver claim in on him not expecting they'd get him, won the claim, then decided he wasn't worth the tender after all. I mean, the White Sox waived him in the first place, maybe the Red Sox came to a similar conclusion that he wasn't a fit for them. It literally costs them nothing.Not sure I am following this logic. Osich still has an option regardless if Johnson cleared waivers. Johnson is no longer on the 40man roster and still doesn't have an option. If the Sox were to need Johnson, he would need to be added back to the 40man before activating him and he still wouldn't have an option.........for clarity I am not suggesting Osich is any kind of stud or even better than BJ. Just seems unnecessary in hindsight unless they are actual trying to get Osich to clear during the frenzy of activity and then keep both BJ and Osich as depth.
Had a dreadful season last year after a brilliant performance the previous season. Possible over use in '18? Wonder if he'll bounce backi haven’t seen anything about this, but Athletics reliever Blake Treinen was waived... any chance the Sox could be in on him at 6.4M as a (mostly) inexpensive back of bullpen piece?
Is $6.4M inexpensive? Depends on context, I suppose. League-wide, that's not so pricey. For the allegedly budget-conscious Red Sox, it might be. The highest paid guy in the Sox bullpen last year was Tyler Thornburg at $1.7M. So $6.4M is a huge step for them. Probably too big a step for a guy, despite having a tremendous season in 2018, was horrible last year and is 32 years old.i haven’t seen anything about this, but Athletics reliever Blake Treinen was waived... any chance the Sox could be in on him at 6.4M as a (mostly) inexpensive back of bullpen piece?
Since the arb salaries are non-guaranteed, couldn't they just cut him before the 16th day of ST and avoid his luxury tax hit? That'd be pretty savage, but that's a thing, right?Positive value yes, but if the directive is to get under $208 million then his spot is still in jeopardy.
That's not quite true. Arbitration contracts are only the ones that actually are a result of arbitration, like Mookie's contract last year. If a player and team agree to a deal prior to getting to the arbitration stage, that's a normal guaranteed contract.Since the arb salaries are non-guaranteed, couldn't they just cut him before the 16th day of ST and avoid his luxury tax hit? That'd be pretty savage, but that's a thing, right?
Yimi needs to be signed today. That doesn't make any sense.A couple names that caught my attention as possible bullpen pieces and potentially more affordable are:
Junior Guerra
Yimi Garcia
Yimi: 62.1 ip, 3.61 era, 5.19 fip (a problem), 115 era+, 0.87 whip, 9.5 k/9Yimi needs to be signed today. That doesn't make any sense.
He's always been a flyball pitcher, and last year was an extreme flyball pitcher (56%). It's not that his HR/FB spiked (in fact, it went down, from 21.2% to 16.9%).Yimi: 62.1 ip, 3.61 era, 5.19 fip (a problem), 115 era+, 0.87 whip, 9.5 k/9
I don't understand how his fip can be so high relative to his era, when his whip is so low and his k/9 is good.
15 hr in just 62.1 ip though...oof. Which answers my question regarding fip.
So Chaim dumps him in Tampa last year because he'd be too costly and then picks him up in Boston this year because he doesn't cost too much? That'd be funny.I wonder if the Sox will take an interest in C.J. Cron. He's a hacker, but he's always hit well at Fenway, and he's a more or less viable defender at 1B. If he could be had for <$5M, I think that would be an intriguing gamble.
Cron is interesting for sure. Recall the analysis that Jon Abbey shared upthread suggesting there’s potential upside/positive regression in his bat still.I wonder if the Sox will take an interest in C.J. Cron. He's a hacker, but he's always hit well at Fenway, and he's a more or less viable defender at 1B. If he could be had for <$5M, I think that would be an intriguing gamble.
Huh. Benny too maybe. Re Cron, a pillow deal for a season in Fenway wouldn't be the worst way to up his value. He's not an extreme pull hitter but the Wall would definitely be his friend, assuming he can get to 2b quickly enough.Cron is interesting for sure. Recall the analysis that Jon Abbey shared upthread suggesting there’s potential upside/positive regression in his bat still.
I hear he's in the best shape of his life and is finally free of the nagging injuries that no one talked about last season.re JBJ, the Globe touted his last 100 games numbers (.252/.342/.504) and talked about swing adjustments. Maybe the team has some optimism about his offense trending up? Or the Globe is trying to sell them some? I'd be fine with keeping him at least til the ASB to see what's what.
Non-rhetorical: what happened to Treinen last year? He went from a 4.76 K/BB, 1.82 FIP, and 0.83 WHIP in his age 30 season to 1.59 K/BB, 5.14 FIP, and 1.62 WHIP at age 31. That's insane. If there was some specific physical reason for the collapse (that has since been resolved), I could be intrigued.i haven’t seen anything about this, but Athletics reliever Blake Treinen was waived... any chance the Sox could be in on him at 6.4M as a (mostly) inexpensive back of bullpen piece?
He made a deal with the devil last year. His 4 seam fastball was unhittable. In 2016, 2017, and 2019 it was a horrible pitch.Non-rhetorical: what happened to Treinen last year? He went from a 4.76 K/BB, 1.82 FIP, and 0.83 WHIP in his age 30 season to 1.59 K/BB, 5.14 FIP, and 1.62 WHIP at age 31. That's insane. If there was some specific physical reason for the collapse (that has since been resolved), I could be intrigued.
Sarcasm detector is broken . . .I hear he's in the best shape of his life and is finally free of the nagging injuries that no one talked about last season.
I hear he's in the best shape of his life and is finally free of the nagging injuries that no one talked about last season.
I can relate to this.
I can't tell you how many fantasy baseball drafts I blew going on Gammo peddling this line...
Yeah I can't say I know Bloom's MO very well but this kind of high-upside signing seems very Tampa. Oh, and also Cron's Fenway splits are .328/.377.656, basically MVP numbers, albeit in 69 PAs.I think one reason to spend on 1B is that it’s likely to be a significant value add, and it will allow them to play Chavis at 2B, where they also have no options and the Bargain bin free agent choices are much more risky.
For the same cost, would you rather have Holt and Chavis, or Chavis and Moreland.
The tricky thing about Cron are his numbers vs. RHP. He’s at 95 wRC+ against them from 2017-19 over 1026 PAs. Fenway maybe helps that a bit, but it might be ambitious to give him the full timeshare.Yeah I can't say I know Bloom's MO very well but this kind of high-upside signing seems very Tampa. Oh, and also Cron's Fenway splits are .328/.377.656, basically MVP numbers, albeit in 69 PAs.
Thanks! I was looking for some feedback on that scenario. I knew there had to be some kind of kink in that idea and the luxury tax is murky to me when it comes to some of the more granular details.That's not quite true. Arbitration contracts are only the ones that actually are a result of arbitration, like Mookie's contract last year. If a player and team agree to a deal prior to getting to the arbitration stage, that's a normal guaranteed contract.
The Red Sox and JBJ can't agree to a contract today (let's say 1/11M) and then cut him on the 15th day of spring training and get out of it. They can do that if JBJ's salary is decided through an arbitration hearing.