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So if Myers' AAV is low, his potential to improve to his previous level of performance is good, and SD still wants to trade him, why are they having trouble finding someone to take him? And why do they have to throw in a good prospect to entice another team? Something's wrong with this picture.
 

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It's impossible to even begin to evaluate any Myers deal without knowing the details. If they take on half of his deal, that's still negative value so presumably the deal would be structured accordingly.

In a vacuum, given the familiarity Bloom has with Myers, the pitcher-friendliness of Petco, and the fact that Myers is still only 29 this year, I'd be optimistic that the Sox, while certainly not replacing Mookie, would be getting a somewhat undervalued asset.
 
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Yeah you have to wonder how the Nationals won it all last year. They "only" won 93 games, which is fine but not exactly dominant. They had two hitters that were as good as the Sox' top three: Soto and Rendon. They had other fine hitters but nothing really any better than the Sox have. Depending on their starting lineup (looking at b-ref), they only had four guys starting with an ops+ over 100. They literally had the worst bullpen in baseball last year, as their relievers ranked #30 in MLB in era (5.66, more than a full run worse than the Sox' own mediocre bullpen, who checked in at 4.40). They did have two great starters (Scherzer and Strasburg) plus two other good ones (Corbin and Sanchez), but they had a LOT of holes.

They got hot in the playoffs and won it. It happens. It would be crazy to rule out the Sox already as if they have no chance.
Such negativity around these parts. Isn’t that why they play the games on a field and not on paper?
 

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I know fake internet trades aren't exactly scintillating content, but indulge me for a moment. I was able to put together a baroque 3-team trade that includes Chicago:
  • Boston sends the Chicago Cubs Bradley and Workman.
  • In return, the Cubs send Kimbrel back home to SD and Ian Happ to Boston.
  • San Diego sends Boston Myers (and a small subsidy: $5-10m?), along with Quantrill and Campusano.
This is complicated, but I think all three teams would do this.

Chicago gets out from under their disastrous Kimbrel signing. The Cubs replace Kimbrel with one of the cheaper Boston relievers. Happ, an IF, is currently the Cubs starting CF, and he has also clashed with management. A rough Bradley/Almora platoon would be considerably better defensively in CF, and probably just a tic worse offensively. Chicago is reportedly maxed out on payroll. Kimbrel's AAV is ~ Bradley's + Workman's, but Craig's deal also covers 2021, while both JBJ and Workman are FA.

Boston gets a subsidized Myers as a RH corner OF and the short side of a 1B platoon, and prays for a rebound to league average. They also get a fifth starter in Cal Quantrill; Ian Happ, who could either start at 2B or play a Holt-type IF/OF role (although he isn't really a SS); and the A-ball catching prospect Campusano. That's a haul. They send out $14m in AAV and take back ~$15m. They have to bump some relievers up the depth chart, and they now have Myers through 2021, but they get five seasons of Quantrill, four of Happ, and six of Campusano.

SD probably needs to believe Kimbrel can bounce back at least somewhat for this trade to be attractive to them. They send Boston a little cash with Myers, but also take on Kimbrel's money. SD can pitch the trade to fans as a win-now/buy-low move that is also a fan favorite reunion, still while shedding some salary in absolute $ terms, even if their AAV stays flat.
 

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why would Kimbrel at 2/32 be attractive to anyone, especially San Diego

I know this is just a hypothetical and you can pick holes at any of those (including the real trades that happen!), but sheesh

Workman for Happ on top of the rumored deal isn't bad
 

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Yeah, no one is trading for Kimbrel until he demonstrates the ability to go at least 2 appearances in a row without allowing a dinger.
 

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why would Kimbrel at 2/32 be attractive to anyone, especially San Diego

I know this is just a hypothetical and you can pick holes at any of those (including the real trades that happen!), but sheesh

Workman for Happ on top of the rumored deal isn't bad
In this scenario, they are sending Boston $20m less than the rumor in exchange for taking Kimbrel. That helps the money work out for everyone, motivating Chicago to get in. They are shedding $50m of Myers' deal and taking on $32m of Kimbrel's. It's true, they need to believe Kimbrel would be desirable at 2/$12m for this deal to work.
 
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As it is, the Padres are a bit crowded in the outfield, even after trading Margot. Not sure they need JBJ in return. A month ago, a trade for Myers fit the roster the Sox had but they've filled holes that Myers would be a fit (1B and 4th OF). Now, acquiring him would almost require them to move an outfielder out. So if JBJ were to be involved, I would think it's the Sox pushing for it rather than the Padres asking for him.
SD has a crowded outfield but now no natural CF after Margot. Perhaps Franchy Cordero fits there best but he would be better suited to RF and can't be counted on due to injury history. Grisham is not a CF. Wil Myers now slots as a LF which is where Pham is, and they are in win-now mode (mostly because Preller will likely be fired if they don't at least contend for a wild card spot). I think JBJ is a natural extension of a win-now philosophy with a young pitching staff, and as others have said, would only be a 1-year commitment for them.

What remains to be seen is if it makes sense for the Sox. I would say yes because of the Pillar signing and I'm starting to talk myself into Wil in LF at Fenway. He would pepper that wall. He also seems to humbled by baseball and is rededicating himself to the game. I could see him having a Garret Atkins type run over the next few years. He is kind of a doof though, and I am not sure if he would thrive in this atmosphere.

All that said, Quantrill is very mediocre. 5th starter at best. If he is the piece we get, I don't like it at all. I'd rather one of those lottery ticket prospects like Campusano.
 

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It's weird, I can't seem to get the trade simulator app to validate any deal involving JBJ and Myers. It's like the very idea breaks the app.

I do think there's kind of a genius fit here, in that the swap provides massive salary relief for San Diego while pushing the Sox less than $3M closer to this year's tax limit. That should be worth some solid prospect talent.

Honestly, my biggest concern is the optics (and not really just the optics, but the reality) of the Sox trading away all three of their high-profile African American players in one offseason.
 

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In this scenario, they are sending Boston $20m less than the rumor in exchange for taking Kimbrel. That helps the money work out for everyone, motivating Chicago to get in. They are shedding $50m of Myers' deal and taking on $32m of Kimbrel's. It's true, they need to believe Kimbrel would be desirable at 2/$12m for this deal to work.
Points for trying, but SD already has probably the best bullpen in the NL and adding a guy who only wants to pitch in the 9th when they already have a much better closer seems like an awful idea.
 

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Honestly, my biggest concern is the optics (and not really just the optics, but the reality) of the Sox trading away all three of their high-profile African American players in one offseason.
Been waiting for this to come up. It’s a pretty big deal.
 

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RSS on Twitter says if Padres put $30 million into the deal then Myers' AAV would be just under $4 million.
This shocked me, but it appears to be right.

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Any cash consideration that is included in the Actual Club Payroll of the payor Club shall be subtracted from the Actual Club Payroll of the payee Club in the same Contract Year in which it is added to the payor Club’s Actual Club Payroll. Notwithstanding the foregoing, an assignee Club may not receive an aggregate credit against its Actual Club Payroll(s) for cash consideration received in an assignment that exceeds the sum of (a) the total amount of the acquired Player(s) Salaries that are included in the Club’s Actual Club Payroll(s) following the assignment, and (b) any cash consideration paid by the assignee Club to another Club in a subsequent assignment of the acquired Player(s) that is attributable to those Players.
If I'm reading that right, that means that SD's CBT penalty for sending us $30m does not get amortized across the whole deal, including past seasons, but only is included for future seasons — so, $10m evenly spread across all three years. And the years that they are dinged for that $10m are the same years that we are credited that $10m.

So yeah, Wil Myers' AAV would be $3.83m.
 

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That's remarkable. If they can get him at 3.83m AAV cap hit along some legitimate pitching prospects I'd be extremely happy and it should demonstrate some real savvy from Bloom.
 

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This is ownership's big chance to put their money where their mouth is. Take on the big salary that does not impact the CBT in order to get help restock the farm. If you're always willing to spend to make the team better, buy some SD prospects.
 

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Boston sends the Chicago Cubs Bradley and Workman.
I'm not interested in going through that whole thing, but this piece struck as odd.

If Workman is anywhere near as effective as he was last season, he'd be far more attractive at the July 31 deadline than he would be as a piece in this scenario
 

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Honestly, my biggest concern is the optics (and not really just the optics, but the reality) of the Sox trading away all three of their high-profile African American players in one offseason.
For context, there are very few African-American players in MLB currently, 68 total on the 30 opening day rosters last year (https://www.forbes.com/sites/exavierpope/2019/10/29/the-state-of-african-americans-in-major-league-baseball/#352fa3076a6a). The Dodgers didn't have any last year for the first time since Jackie Robinson. That's not saying it's not an issue, just context that there aren't that many anywhere.
 

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It's weird, I can't seem to get the trade simulator app to validate any deal involving JBJ and Myers. It's like the very idea breaks the app.

I do think there's kind of a genius fit here, in that the swap provides massive salary relief for San Diego while pushing the Sox less than $3M closer to this year's tax limit. That should be worth some solid prospect talent.

Honestly, my biggest concern is the optics (and not really just the optics, but the reality) of the Sox trading away all three of their high-profile African American players in one offseason.
Maybe this is all part of an ingenious scheme to dodge the potential Verdugo bullet (by using him as the piece heading back) and raid the San Diego farm system for some higher end prospects while getting a starter to shore up the rotation?
 

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It's weird, I can't seem to get the trade simulator app to validate any deal involving JBJ and Myers. It's like the very idea breaks the app.

I do think there's kind of a genius fit here, in that the swap provides massive salary relief for San Diego while pushing the Sox less than $3M closer to this year's tax limit. That should be worth some solid prospect talent.

Honestly, my biggest concern is the optics (and not really just the optics, but the reality) of the Sox trading away all three of their high-profile African American players in one offseason.
Nobody is reporting Bradley at this point, right? That’s just SoSH speculation?
 

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Nobody is reporting Bradley at this point, right? That’s just SoSH speculation?
Right. And honestly I don't think the Padres would have any interest. They'd want someone like Chavis or Benintendi that they control and is inexpensive, Hence my Verdugo joke.
 

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to be fair, their return was an african american, mexican american, and asian amaerican.
And their two biggest stars are Latin. I'm not saying that it's not a potential issue, because it sure could be. I think they'll be ok. But...I could be wrong.
 

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For context, there are very few African-American players in MLB currently, 68 total on the 30 opening day rosters last year (https://www.forbes.com/sites/exavierpope/2019/10/29/the-state-of-african-americans-in-major-league-baseball/#352fa3076a6a). The Dodgers didn't have any last year for the first time since Jackie Robinson. That's not saying it's not an issue, just context that there aren't that many anywhere.
Not to mention that there is something else that JBJ and Mookie have in common that is more germane to trade speculation: They are pending FA.
 

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Quantrill really got pounded in the third time through the lineup last year. It's a small sample, and FIP makes it look like maybe bad luck - he was hit hard, but had a good K/BB rate. But maybe he's a candidate to thrive as a bulk reliever following an opener.

edit: was looking at fangraphs wrong.
 

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Wonder if Myers makes Chavis a superfluous asset that could also be moved for a young SP asset. They are the same offensive player more or less with Chavis having the additional value of playing 2B.
 

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Quantrill really got pounded in the third time through the lineup last year. It's a small sample, and FIP makes it look like maybe bad luck - he was hit hard, but had a good K/BB rate. But maybe he's a candidate to thrive as a bulk reliever following an opener.

edit: was looking at fangraphs wrong.
A guy who can get through the order twice is a 4-5 starter these days
 

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Wonder if Myers makes Chavis a superfluous asset that could also be moved for a young SP asset. They are the same offensive player more or less with Chavis having the additional value of playing 2B.
If the Padres are interested in Chavis, this seems like the basis of a decent trade. Chavis for Myers+cash, Quantrill, and maybe Campusano. Trade simulator estimates about $25 million would make it an even trade. That would add $5.5 million AAV and fill the 5 spot in the rotation.
 

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Wish I could see any evidence, in his record at any level, that Quantrill has a future as anything but a back-of-rotation mediocrity.
Well, if he had the tools that looked like he’d be more than that, he wouldn’t be available at all, let alone in a deal like this. Teams hold onto their potential front of the rotation studs. I think the real question is if he can be a better back-of-rotation mediocrity than what has come out of the Sox system recently.
 

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Wish I could see any evidence, in his record at any level, that Quantrill has a future as anything but a back-of-rotation mediocrity.
I don't see much reason to be that optimistic. 1.46 WHIP in the minors, over a hit per inning from A+ through AAA. I don't know how anybody can look at Cal Quantrill and think he could be anything other than a JAG reliever for a basement dwelling team based on the numbers he's put up professionally so far. Maybe there is something about him I'm missing like an inspiring story that will make me believe.
 

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I don't see much reason to be that optimistic. 1.46 WHIP in the minors, over a hit per inning from A+ through AAA. I don't know how anybody can look at Cal Quantrill and think he could be anything other than a JAG reliever for a basement dwelling team based on the numbers he's put up professionally so far. Maybe there is something about him I'm missing like an inspiring story that will make me believe.
Well, he was a #8 overall pick, so obviously somebody, at some point, thought he had either a high ceiling or a high floor.

Looking at his 2019 in more detail does mitigate the suck a bit. He started slow and finished disastrously, and actually pitched quite well in between. Between June 5 and August 20 he threw 60 innings with a 2.69 ERA, 51/12 K/BB, and .583 OPS allowed. He woke up on August 21 with a 3.32 ERA for the season. Then it all went down the toilet with three straight 8-run starts. (Worth noting that he had thrown over 100 pitches in three consecutive starts just before that.)

This is cherry-picking, yes, but not entirely random--it wouldn't be surprising if he just ran out of gas at the end of only his second season of >120 innings as a pro, and his first facing big-league hitters. If that June-through-August guy can be harnessed and refined, maybe he could turn out to be a steal.
 

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Red Sox Stats: 30MM from SD = 3.8M Myers Hit

Red Sox Stats twitter seems to be mistaken in reporting what happens if SD kicks in 30MM. If 30MM were kicked in and we acquired Myers, the CBT would still look at his deal as a six year deal, no? So like another poster said, if SD pays 30MM, his deal counts like a 53M/6 contract, so 8.83MM toward the CBT. Not the 3.8MM number being kicked around, right? I don't see how that math works but maybe I'm misunderstanding something about the tax.
 

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Red Sox Stats: 30MM from SD = 3.8M Myers Hit

Red Sox Stats twitter seems to be mistaken in reporting what happens if SD kicks in 30MM. If 30MM were kicked in and we acquired Myers, the CBT would still look at his deal as a six year deal, no? So like another poster said, if SD pays 30MM, his deal counts like a 53M/6 contract, so 8.83MM toward the CBT. Not the 3.8MM number being kicked around, right? I don't see how that math works but maybe I'm misunderstanding something about the tax.
A player's AAV doesnt change, unless his actual contract does. Myers signed a 6 year, $83M contract so his AAV is $13.83M each of the 6 years.

If a team sends cash along with a player to pay his contract, they take a cap hit for 100% of that amount each year. If a team receives cash, they receive a 100% credit.

So if the San Diego sends $10m/yr along to the Sox, his cap hit would be $10M to SD and $3.83M to Boston each of the next 3 years (for the same $13.83M total).
 

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Red Sox Stats: 30MM from SD = 3.8M Myers Hit

Red Sox Stats twitter seems to be mistaken in reporting what happens if SD kicks in 30MM. If 30MM were kicked in and we acquired Myers, the CBT would still look at his deal as a six year deal, no? So like another poster said, if SD pays 30MM, his deal counts like a 53M/6 contract, so 8.83MM toward the CBT. Not the 3.8MM number being kicked around, right? I don't see how that math works but maybe I'm misunderstanding something about the tax.
This was what I thought, too, but then I read the CBA. I quoted the relevant passages a few pages back.

The language is quite clear that money sent along with a contract is only amortized across the deal’s remaining years.

I think they are trying to minimize the circumstances that require them to retroactively adjust team payrolls, especially now that the penalties are not purely financial. They can’t go back and un-dock your draft picks years later.
 

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Wish I could see any evidence, in his record at any level, that Quantrill has a future as anything but a back-of-rotation mediocrity.
This may not answer the question for you, but here’s what I find encouraging about Quantrill.

Here’s a list of the 2019 starting pitchers ranked by lowest average exit velocity against:

Yarbrough (84.0 mph), Hendricks, Ryu, Martin Perez, Maeda, Woodruff, E. Rodriguez, deGrom, Houser, Clevinger, Flaherty, Wheeler, Syndergaard, Gio Gonzalez, Vargas, Castillo, Minor, Sabathia, Anibal Sanchez, Berrios, Chase Anderson, Eflin, Morton, Alcantara, Milone, Shaun Anderson, Greinke, Paddack, Ray, Quantrill (86.9 mph).

Lotta excellent pitchers in this group. Limiting hard contact is a skill, and Quantrill was 30th among 144 qualified starting pitchers.

Now if we reorder that same group by average fastball velocity (2019):

Syndergaard, deGrom, Wheeler, Castillo, Woodruff, Alcantara, Clevinger, Quantrill, Morton, Houser, Perez, Paddack, Flaherty, Eflin, C. Anderson, Rodriguez, Berrios, S. Anderson, Minor, Ray, Maeda, Ryu, Sanchez, Greinke, Gonzalez, Sabathia, Yarbrough, Milone, Hendricks, Vargas

And if we remove the parameters of the original list and just list hardest fastballs in MLB in 2019 (min. 100 IP), here are the only pitchers from the original soft-contact group who appear in that top 30:

Syndergaard, deGrom, Wheeler, Castillo, Woodruff, Alcantara, Clevinger, Quantrill, Morton, Houser, Perez

It’s maybe kind of arbitrary to link a ability to throw hard with an ability to limit hard contact, but the pitchers who do both are very few, and good, and Quantrill appears to be one of them.
 
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A player's AAV doesnt change, unless his actual contract does. Myers signed a 6 year, $83M contract so his AAV is $13.83M each of the 6 years.

If a team sends cash along with a player to pay his contract, they take a cap hit for 100% of that amount each year. If a team receives cash, they receive a 100% credit.

So if the San Diego sends $10m/yr along to the Sox, his cap hit would be $10M to SD and $3.83M to Boston each of the next 3 years (for the same $13.83M total).
To look at it another way, the total amount of the contract and the total amount of AAV for Myers needs to be equal at the end of the deal.

Actual contract paid out ($83 million):
2017: $2 million (Padres) + $15 million bonus
2018: $2 million (Padres)
2019: $3 million (Padres)
2020: $20 million ($10 million Padres, $10 million Red Sox)
2021: $20 million ($10 million Padres, $10 million Red Sox)
2022: $20 million ($10 million Padres, $10 million Red Sox)

Cap hit
2017: $13.833 (Padres)
2018: $13.833 (Padres)
2019: $13.833 (Padres)
2020: $13.833 (Red Sox), $10 million "Credit" from the Padres to Red Sox, $10 million cap hit for the Padres
2021: $13.833 (Red Sox), $10 million "Credit" from the Padres to Red Sox, $10 million cap hit for the Padres
2022: $13.833 (Red Sox), $10 million "Credit" from the Padres to Red Sox, $10 million cap hit for the Padres
 

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Thanks for the clarification on the luxury tax, everybody.


Well, he was a #8 overall pick, so obviously somebody, at some point, thought he had either a high ceiling or a high floor.

Looking at his 2019 in more detail does mitigate the suck a bit. He started slow and finished disastrously, and actually pitched quite well in between. Between June 5 and August 20 he threw 60 innings with a 2.69 ERA, 51/12 K/BB, and .583 OPS allowed. He woke up on August 21 with a 3.32 ERA for the season. Then it all went down the toilet with three straight 8-run starts. (Worth noting that he had thrown over 100 pitches in three consecutive starts just before that.)

This is cherry-picking, yes, but not entirely random--it wouldn't be surprising if he just ran out of gas at the end of only his second season of >120 innings as a pro, and his first facing big-league hitters. If that June-through-August guy can be harnessed and refined, maybe he could turn out to be a steal.
Thanks.

I was going to try to dig around after work and see what I thought about him in more detail. A high pick and a near 2 month run at the major league level is interesting but I'm also worried about what he's done since moving up to AA. He doesn't seem to have sustained success anywhere as a starter. Maybe his stuff could play in high leverage or something. He looked really good in this game at least. (Youtube).
 

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Red Sox owners going to acquire Myers for the primary purpose of proving to fans that they aren't actually cheap.

If we can actually get Quantrill + Campusano for a $4m CBT hit, sign me up immediately, though.
 

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LOL what? Is this a joke?
Yes & no?

You've seen all the posts on here, & I'm sure even more in other places with less informed fans where the owners are getting bashed for being cheap & that's why they traded away Betts/Price.

So even making a neutral trade where the owners are paying $ out of pocket in a way that doesn't impact the CBT would have super nice optics for them.

But like I said in the 2nd paragraph, if that's the actual deal, it's awesome anyway, & I don't think they'd do it as part of a move that Bloom felt was deleterious for their chances of success just to do it.
 

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Wish I could see any evidence, in his record at any level, that Quantrill has a future as anything but a back-of-rotation mediocrity.
Not trying to be too cute here, but do you mean mediocre relative to starting pitchers or mediocre relative to 5th starters? Because if it's the former, that's pretty valuable with 5 years of cost-control, right?
 

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Yes & no?

You've seen all the posts on here, & I'm sure even more in other places with less informed fans where the owners are getting bashed for being cheap & that's why they traded away Betts/Price.

So even making a neutral trade where the owners are paying $ out of pocket in a way that doesn't impact the CBT would have super nice optics for them.

But like I said in the 2nd paragraph, if that's the actual deal, it's awesome anyway, & I don't think they'd do it as part of a move that Bloom felt was deleterious for their chances of success just to do it.
I don't know the ownership personally, but I would wager a large sum of money that they wouldn't make the trade just so that fans don't think they're cheap.
 

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I don't know the ownership personally, but I would wager a large sum of money that they wouldn't make the trade just so that fans don't think they're cheap.
If it makes the fans more willing to spend $, why not? Obviously it's not for the warm & fuzzy feeling they would get inside.

Regardless, though, why is it that the rumored package for Myers is almost the same as when they were getting Betts? Makes me feel like we'd have to give something more up than just a bit of cash.
 

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MLBtr is saying it's possible the a Myers trade with the Sox could become a three-team deal including the Reds, with Senzel going to SD. I'm not really sure I understand the Reds motivation in all this, but do they have anyone worth targeting who could be pulled away? Tony Santillan?
 

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If it makes the fans more willing to spend $, why not? Obviously it's not for the warm & fuzzy feeling they would get inside.
I don't even think Tony Mazz could keep a straight face running with a take like that. But if he lurks, he may give it a go.

I was thinking Quantrill would be a reliever as well and they go the bullpen game route once or twice a week.
 

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Red Sox owners going to acquire Myers for the primary purpose of proving to fans that they aren't actually cheap.

If we can actually get Quantrill + Campusano for a $4m CBT hit, sign me up immediately, though.
Buying prospects is a thing that other teams have done before. Basically under the same method as this proposal. They'd be paying ~40 mil for Myers and whatever prospects come back. But the cap hit would only be ~12 mil, so it's a uniquely good deal for Boston and San Diego given their situations. San Diego cares about the money, but Boston only really cares about the cap money. If they think the prospects are worth $40 mil total, they could just do the trade and cut Myers if he doesn't perform this year. It's not a huge hit, and they have the room for it.
 

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I'm not really sure I understand the Reds motivation in all this
They now have Suárez, Moustakas, and Akiyama under control at Senzel's positions and San Diego would be sending them something major, maybe something more useful like Luis Patino