2018 NFL Game Thread - Week 7

bigq

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Dallas has one 10+ fourth quarter comeback in the last 20 years.

That's something else.
Doesn’t seem possible. I’m pretty sure Staubach did it with some regularity but that was a long time ago. Aikman must have done it as well. Not quite as long ago.

Romo was a good QB and it seems like he should have had at least a couple.
 

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The officiating twitter explains exactly why one was called and the other was not, in one case the defenders jumped across on the movement, therefore they have to call it because there is contact.
Guess I'd be teaching my players to jump offsides on every FG attempt then.
 

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Guess I'd be teaching my players to jump offsides on every FG attempt then.
sure, except if there isn't an obvious movement of the ball or the ref misses it you just gave up a 1st down. The risk/reward would almost always be too low. This particular one is rather obvious, this isn't rolling the ball to the laces side, or a slight shift, he makes a significant movement. Yes most snappers move the ball some, but this did seem like a larger, and faster movement than normal.

What would be better is teaching your long snapper not to move the ball when he snaps
 

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Doesn’t seem possible. I’m pretty sure Staubach did it with some regularity but that was a long time ago. Aikman must have done it as well. Not quite as long ago.

Romo was a good QB and it seems like he should have had at least a couple.

Aikman retired 17 years ago.
 

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Guess I'd be teaching my players to jump offsides on every FG attempt then.
This is exactly right. Watch the Redskins who jumped offsides. First of all, neither of them was looking at the ball when they jumped offsides. Second, after jumping offsides, neither of them even glances towards the center, or the refs and or remotely acts as though they were drawn off. I mean, shit, guys who aren't drawn off routinely point at an offensive lineman and claim they moved when they didn't. If the reason they moved was because of the snapper, at least one of them would've said something.

And if the rule is based on the fact that the refs only call it because it "led to another violation," wouldn't it have to, you know, actually lead to the violation? I don't buy it for a fucking second. It's either a penalty or it's not a penalty, whether or not the defense jumped is not relevant. So a center can do whatever he wants with the ball, and as long as nobody jumps, it's not an infraction? Is that the new rule?
 

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This is exactly right. Watch the Redskins who jumped offsides. First of all, neither of them was looking at the ball when they jumped offsides. Second, after jumping offsides, neither of them even glances towards the center, or the refs and or remotely acts as though they were drawn off. I mean, shit, guys who aren't drawn off routinely point at an offensive lineman and claim they moved when they didn't. If the reason they moved was because of the snapper, at least one of them would've said something.

And if the rule is based on the fact that the refs only call it because it "led to another violation," wouldn't it have to, you know, actually lead to the violation? I don't buy it for a fucking second. It's either a penalty or it's not a penalty, whether or not the defense jumped is not relevant. So a center can do whatever he wants with the ball, and as long as nobody jumps, it's not an infraction? Is that the new rule?

I don’t take issue with your first paragraph, but from my seat as a fan, I hate when refs call every damn thing. The cost is the flow and enjoyment of the game.
 

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I really question a football team’s preparation when I, laying on my floor browsing my phone, can peak up and see that they don’t have the O’s formation covered.
 

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I don’t take issue with your first paragraph, but from my seat as a fan, I hate when refs call every damn thing. The cost is the flow and enjoyment of the game.
I agree completely, but I can't get behind the refs basically saying "Yeah, we didn't call it on you all game long, but in the key, most pivotal moment of the game, we're going to now let you know it's actually a penalty what you're doing."

I mean, if they are only going to call it when the defense jumps, then they owe it to the center and the coach to let them know "Hey, we didn't call it because nobody jumped, but if he does that shit again, and the defense moves, it's going to be on him."
 

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Bengals have a pretty damn good receiver on the other side in Tyler Boyd. He has 0 catches on 1 target. Meanwhile, Dalton keeps trying to force everything into AJ Green (6 catches on 10 targets), so it was just a matter of time before they picked one of them.
 

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Dallas has one 10+ fourth quarter comeback in the last 20 years.

That's something else.
Doesn’t seem possible. I’m pretty sure Staubach did it with some regularity but that was a long time ago. Aikman must have done it as well. Not quite as long ago.

Romo was a good QB and it seems like he should have had at least a couple.
I'm not sure how the counting is happening, but I don't think this is true.

10/8/07--trailed 24-13 after 3, won 25-24 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200710080buf.htm
12/9/07--trailed 27-14 after 3, won 28-27 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200712090det.htm
9/18/11--trailed 24-14 in 4th, won 27-24 in OT https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201109180sfo.htm
11/18/12--trailed 13-3 after 3, won 23-20 in OT https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201211180dal.htm
9/13/15--trailed 23-13 in 4th, won 27-26 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201509130dal.htm
10/30/16--trailed 23-13 in 4th, won 29-23 in OT https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201610300dal.htm
 

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So Mahomes has thrown for 3 TDs in a half 6 times this season in 7 games. The Buffalo Bills have thrown for 3 TDs total in 7 games
 

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Bengals have a pretty damn good receiver on the other side in Tyler Boyd. He has 0 catches on 1 target. Meanwhile, Dalton keeps trying to force everything into AJ Green (6 catches on 10 targets), so it was just a matter of time before they picked one of them.
They heard you apparently.
 

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Ah yes, the FG to cut it to 28, because you're definitely going to get all stops from here on out and score 4TDs
 

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Four man rush gets there absurdly easily. Bengals really came up small tonight to make an atrocious defense look good.
 

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And the nfl flexed this game because they were afraid the rams game was going to be a blowout.
 

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And the nfl flexed this game because they were afraid the rams game was going to be a blowout.
To be fair, that Rams game was even worse to watch. Aaron Donald dominated so much defensively that the Rams offense had a bad game and blew them out anyway.
 

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Absolutely. In that sense, he's almost the perfect Bengal. Can't say I wasn't happy to see Burfict limp off a little while ago too.
Yeah, Michaels and Collinsworth talking about his bad week getting worse didn't elicit the sort of sympathy that they may have been going for there.
 

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I agree completely, but I can't get behind the refs basically saying "Yeah, we didn't call it on you all game long, but in the key, most pivotal moment of the game, we're going to now let you know it's actually a penalty what you're doing."

I mean, if they are only going to call it when the defense jumps, then they owe it to the center and the coach to let them know "Hey, we didn't call it because nobody jumped, but if he does that shit again, and the defense moves, it's going to be on him."
L.P. Ladouceur has been long snapping for the Cowboys forever and a half a day. Hell, he's a holdover from the Bill Parcells era, so he's not some guy who just fell off a turnip truck, doesn't know how to long snap a ball, or what a "snap infraction" is or isn't either. It was a crap call just like a bunch of other ones in that game.
 

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Sammy Watkins must think he's died and gone to football heaven. After leaving the Rams, I bet he wasn't as bullish that he was moving to as good a situation as he had there. However, compared to his first few years in the league, the guy is playing for consistent winners.