Yeah, that's why I said DVOA typically overrates the Patriots running game. It also cant separate the fact out that teams have to defend Tom Brady. But they rarely lose yardage, they are somewhat effective in power situations, and Lewis ranks as one of the best backs in the league by elusiveness, yards after contact, etc. They aren't really a pass happy team anymore (less run heavy than last year, but middle of the pack for run/pass ratio. As you point out they've run reasonably effectively against good rushing defenses. Id find it hard to make the case the Pats arent a good running team. I dont think they're the best run offense in the league or anything, but they're pretty good.
2018 AFCCG: Jags v. Pats (Non-Brady Edition)
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IN the on field sense of it, it doesn't matter if DVOA overestimates the Pats RBs. All that matters on the field is that if it's 3rd and 4, and they hand off to Lewis, he gets 5. If it's because they had to respect Brady's play fake, that doesn't matter.
So, if someone wants to knock Lewis down the list of good RBs that's fine (because I guess Le'Veon Bell, Mark Ingram, etc. don't also benefit from good QBs) but as far as ACTUAL PRODUCTION in the game, the Pats running game is far from mediocre. And that's what matters on Sunday.
So, if someone wants to knock Lewis down the list of good RBs that's fine (because I guess Le'Veon Bell, Mark Ingram, etc. don't also benefit from good QBs) but as far as ACTUAL PRODUCTION in the game, the Pats running game is far from mediocre. And that's what matters on Sunday.
I think the fact that he can fit a tight glove over a hurt hand is a good sign. Also, Hoyer is wearing a glove.
Plus, I wore gloves today, and my hands are fine.
Plus, I wore gloves today, and my hands are fine.
Here comes the line movement - down to 8.5 this morning.
If you don't think there's anything to see here, this is going to become a good gambling opportunity.
If you don't think there's anything to see here, this is going to become a good gambling opportunity.
So, Gisele gave him the "dolphin" a couple nights before a big game and now his thumb is messed up.
I understand the reasons for concern, but his glove looking bulky and him not throwing when he doesn't really need to be doesn't necessarily mean anything. If part of it is cutting his hand, then that's a bandage under the glove, and why throw when you can give it a couple of days to rest?
I'd be interested in knowing whether Hoyer was seen throwing. If not, perhaps it's true that the media only got to see a non-throwing portion of the practice.
Media wasn't there for the throwing portion. They were doing stretching and running and then they were gone.
Looks like a brace on the thumb under the glove, right? That means something, but no way to know if it's largely precautionary or sign of a real issue.
Just wait until BB signs a QB to the practice squad, or perhaps even the active roster...then the line will really move (or just go off the board, most likely)
Just wait until BB signs a QB to the practice squad, or perhaps even the active roster...then the line will really move (or just go off the board, most likely)
Thanks. Well then, Brady not seen throwing isn't as remarkable as I may have thought.
I was thinking it almost looked like white gauze or medical tape coming out from the bottom of the glove.
The public is heavily on Jacksonville so far, and the money seems almost dead even on the NFC side. Vegas probably needs to move to balance that out and figures that all* the teasers will include the Pats, while they will be split on the other game.
*edit: not all...most
That glove looks like it’s a size too big in order to fit it on. Look at the ends, his fingers don’t reach.
I’d guess jammed thumb, but it doesn’t look particularly swollen. I would think by Sunday it should be fine.
Teaser where they get middled on 7 and 3 doesnt really balance out Jags money (and I dont think Jags/Pats money ends up that unbalanced)
This thread is such a delightful combination of amateur medical diagnosis and sartorial analysis. Well done, everyone.
The throwing hand thumb is the worst finger to hurt as a QB. It really affects the grip, velocity, and direction of the football. Judging by the picture, he's got it heavily taped or splinted. Luckily, they've got the better part of 3-4 days to get the swelling down with ice and medication. As long as it isn't broken or a torn ligament, I think he'll be fine. If it's either of those two, then it's definitely not good. Remember Jacoby Brissett vs Houston last year?
That exact glove on the Internet does not have stripes on the nail side of the thumb. Seems like they added a new part to the glove specially for Brady.
Is this like that special edition pompom hat he had last year that everyone wanted?
Maybe he did have a concussion
I think the striped part that's "on the tip of his thumb" is actually at his elbow, in the background.
From the other thread. Some UA gloves have weird thumbs
https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/mens-ua-f5-football-gloves/pid1271183-600
https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/mens-ua-f5-football-gloves/pid1271183-600