2018-19 College Hoops Game Thread
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So if Duke wins today - does the ACC get three 1 seeds? Does Duke pass UNC? Tough decisions for the committee.
Edit: FWIW Lunardi moved Duke back to a 1 seed and UNC to a 2 after last night
Edit: FWIW Lunardi moved Duke back to a 1 seed and UNC to a 2 after last night
I think if anything got proven last night it's that both Duke and Carolina deserve 1 seeds.
I'd probably agree, but who do you put on the second line - Kentucky, Gonzaga, or Virginia?
Edit: I guess I am assuming Kentucky wins the SEC tournament. If they lose today or tomorrow, I think you can justify dropping them to a 2.
Crimson starting to pull away from Penn in the first Ivy semi-final, but it’s not been a very impressive performance.
My fear is if all the expected outcomes happen (Duke wins tonight, UK the SEC, and Michigan St the Big Ten), UNC is getting sent to the south as the 2 and will have to play Kentucky in Louisville to make the final four if they get that far.
For whatever reason the NET doesn't like Carolina and I assume that's going to be a huge factor tomorrow since it's the NCAA's own new metric.
Right. In the end it doesn’t matter a ton though IMO. I mean the regional final is supposed to be hard.
I like how the Ivy League just does a final four instead of every team going to the tournament.
I’m headed over to New Haven for Harvard-Yale final tomorrow.
Are these the 1 and 2 seeds?
1's: Virginia, Gonzaga, Duke, UNC
2's: Kentucky, Tennessee, Michigan State, Michigan
1's: Virginia, Gonzaga, Duke, UNC
2's: Kentucky, Tennessee, Michigan State, Michigan
Doesn't Duke have to win tonight? I mean I guess they can say none of the games Zion missed count (which is crapola but whatever) but a 1 seed for a team that was third in the conference and didn't win the conference tournament is shaky ground to me anyways.
The 4th #1 in my mind comes down to UNC vs UK vs. Michigan State. Kentucky was on the 1 line today and Lunardi had UNC paired with the 4th #1 in UK. A UK loss and Duke win might flip-flop UK and UNC. A Duke loss and Michigan State win may jump the Spartans to a 1.
I don’t necessarily disagree, but basically everyone is going to bitch and moan regardless. If Duke is a 1 everyone will say they didn’t deserve it. If Duke is a 2, the 1 seed in that region will say it isn’t fair.
Even with the new Big East turning into the AFC East, the BET Final is still the best conference final. The NCAA should put the Final 4 at MSG one of these days.
Lunardi now has Duke 1 in the east, and UNC 1 in the Midwest. 3 1s for the ACC
Now the question is whether Duke is #1 overall.
Now the question is whether Duke is #1 overall.
With Williamson healthy, Duke should absolutely be the #1 overall seed.
As to your initial point, I'm not saying it won't happen, because the workings of the NCAA selection committee is the definition of myopic groupthink. But three #1 seeds from one conference would be a joke.
Well, I don’t recall any consensus about the ACC being the center of college talent prior to the beginning of conference play. And conference play shouldn’t change that. It’s like a feedback loop that exposes biases.
Just my opinion, but that’s why seemingly every year the ACC (as a conference, not Duke) is massively overseeded heading into the tourney.
I guess. What gives me pause is that UK did beat UNC. I know the committee doesn’t necessarily take that into account but maybe they should in this case.
I think the week 9 rankings were basically the last before conference play started for everybody. The ACC had four of the top ten (Duke, Virginia, Florida State, and Virginia Tech) with UNC at 15 and NC State at 18.
Outside of State, all those teams have maintained a high level of play, with UNC improving a great deal.
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This is why I hate replay: Mich/Mich St review with 13 seconds left. They take several minutes when it was obvious the Mich State's player's action caused the ball to go OOB, but because the ball was on the Mich player's fingertips a fraction of a second later the officials overturned and it went to MSU. I have no rooting interest but makes for a kind of over-officious game.
And then they screw up the play whren the Mich St. player is TRYING to foul the Mich. player. So the guy throws up a shot thinking he was fouled but they NEVER call it! Michigan State ball after that and essentially game over. But like you say there's no amount of time they won't spend going to the monitor for things they can go to the monitor for (And still might get it wrong). It's a roll of the dice in close games. Don't count on the refs to get it right.
Love Yale to beat LSU. Duke got an easy bracket.
Minnesota vs Louisville is hilarious. Think the old man might fire up the son to win that one?
Minnesota vs Louisville is hilarious. Think the old man might fire up the son to win that one?
I was there too...
About 5 minutes into the second half, Harvard's stud (Bryce Aiken) drove the lane and drew contact from Yale's big star (Miye One). Refs made a questionable call (okay, a bad call -- and I'm as prejudiced as you can be in this one) on One, sending him to the bench with his fourth foul. In the next minute, Harvard built a 7-point lead...and things looked great, but then Yale roared back on something like a 17-2 run and it was over.
Really impressive performance by Yale (God, it hurts to type that) without their star.
And if Harvard can't win the Ivies next year, with all their stars back (including all-Ivy Seth Towns who missed most of this year injured) and a great recruiting class, it'll be fair to wonder if Amaker is a great recruiter and spokesman for the university, but not a very good coach.