2017 Steelers: MyFace Champions

[biff_hardbody]

https://sports.yahoo.com/doesnt-look-like-hes-missed-time-steelers-teammates-say-antonio-brown-ready-230010564.html

Steelers teammates say Antonio Brown practiced today and doesn't look like he missed any time at all.

This reminds me of some friends I have - if they are saying it, I actually believe the opposite to be even more likely to be true than if they had said nothing. We'll see.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Paging DRS!

Should our BS meters be going off here?

 

[Marciano490]

Did the Steelers ever say anything about the injury other than a tear? Any sprain is a tear, so he could've just pulled his calf and they called it a tear to give him cover and now he's back on a normal timeline.

Either that or they have really, really good hgh.

 

[Rook05]

No comments on “play then in hell, play them in Haiti”? Pleaseohplease let that be what he actually said.

 

[RedOctober3829]

According to 93.7 FM in Pittsburgh, Stephon Tuitt left practice in a sling. That’s 2 big injuries in practice today.

 

[Marciano490]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22044556/leveon-bell-pittsburgh-steelers-sit-2018-retire-tagged-again

Steelers continue with their laser focus on the playoffs (Bell threatening to retire if he's tagged again).

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Gotta love the spin provided by ESPN - and this is my new favorite term - access merchant Jeremy Fowler.

 

[DeadlySplitter]

Where to from here? Scoring 42 on the Jags is mighty impressive, but the rest of that performance was quite a tire fire.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

NOTE: Once again, please respect the Steelers fans here. No trolling/goading/you know the drill.

Where to from here? Scoring 42 on the Jags is mighty impressive, but the rest of that performance was quite a tire fire.

As I posted in the Game Thread, I think Haley is gone. Bell will be franchised and not sure if he'll be the same after such heavy usage this year.

This may be old news but here's a list of potential free agents for 2018: http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2017/09/10/21-steelers-set-to-become-free-agents-of-some-form-in-2018/

 

[tims4wins]

I wonder if they call for Tomlin's head. They clearly - without question - looked past a team that beat them by 21 earlier this year. Simply unfathomable.

 

[Van Everyman]

Question for Steelers fans: can Tomlin survive that game?

Edit: beaten to it

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

I wonder if they call for Tomlin's head. They clearly - without question - looked past a team that beat them by 21 earlier this year. Simply unfathomable.

Some of those 4th down calls were mind-blowing. I bet Haley's gone.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

I wonder if they call for Tomlin's head. They clearly - without question - looked past a team that beat them by 21 earlier this year. Simply unfathomable.

Tough to see that happen, after going 13-3, no?

The one who'll be on the "hot seat" is Keith Butler but (at least) the conventional stats had Steelers with a good, if not great, defense.

Bet Big Ben also returns after hinting retirement again.

Edit: he may call for Haley's head in exchange for coming back for another season. Pure speculation on my part.

 

[Sportsbstn]

Where to from here? Scoring 42 on the Jags is mighty impressive, but the rest of that performance was quite a tire fire.

Someone has to talk to Tomlin about being a better coach. You don’t start talking about the Patriots meeting in the playoff. Get a clue and don’t act like Rex Ryan.

 

[FredJones]

Bell will be franchised and not sure if he'll be the same after such heavy usage this year.

I thought their usage of Bell indicated that they planned to just let him go after this season. They really mismanaged him if they intended to try to negotiate again.

 

[Hoodie Sleeves]

Someone has to talk to Tomlin about being a better coach. You don’t start talking about the Patriots meeting in the playoff. Get a clue and don’t act like Rex Ryan.

The particulars of the end of this game were different - but it reminded me a lot of the end of the Pats-Steelers game - where they had enough time to score, and onside, and they just looked completely disorganized and screwed the whole thing up.

Tomlin is just really bad at this stuff.

 

[johnmd20]

--trolly trolly--

Nice, no trolling, no goading. And here you are.

 

[wiffleballhero]

Someone has to talk to Tomlin about being a better coach. You don’t start talking about the Patriots meeting in the playoff. Get a clue and don’t act like Rex Ryan.

Tomlin seems good enough at all the ra-ra stuff of coaching, but he is a bad in-game coach, making stupid decisions with a frequency that is shocking.

Even Fouts could see that the on side kick was a recipe for dooming them and don't get me started on the fourth down decisions. He is a bad coach when it comes to in game decisions, really bad. Maybe his coordinators are knuckleheads, but all together it makes you appreciate the Pats that much more.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Nice, no trolling, no goading. And here you are.

Sorry, johnmd20. Just deleted H78's post. But yes, he's been warned. Again, and for the last time.

 

[Harry Hooper]

I thought their usage of Bell indicated that they planned to just let him go after this season. They really mismanaged him if they intended to try to negotiate again.

Yeah, I thought they were using up all the tread on Bell's tires this season before parting ways?

 

[FredJones]

Yeah, I thought they were using up all the tread on Bell's tires this season before parting ways?

He hasn't been the most durable player in his short career, and they were keeping him on the field and running him late in blowouts.

 

[E5 Yaz]

I hope one of the Pittsburgh reporters does a list of all the questionable decisions Tomlin/Haley made today. My goodness, it seemed as though there were a half-dozen moments where you wonder what they were doing.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Tough to see that happen, after going 13-3, no?

The one who'll be on the "hot seat" is Keith Butler but (at least) the conventional stats had Steelers with a good, if not great, defense.

Bet Big Ben also returns after hinting retirement again.

Edit: he may call for Haley's head in exchange for coming back for another season. Pure speculation on my part.

If both coordinators deserve to be gone, doesn't that sort of indicate that the head coach should be in trouble as well?

 

[tims4wins]

2018 thread title suggestions welcome.

 

[johnmd20]

2018 thread title suggestions welcome.

Tomlin's Time Management

 

[E5 Yaz]

Tomlin's Time Management

So close ... judges were looking for Tomlin's Time Manageme

 

[Boston Brawler]

Per Bleacher Report, Ben said he plans on coming back next season

 

[Section15Box113]

So close ... judges were looking for Tomlin's Time Manageme

We have a winner. Well played, E5.

 

[Ralphwiggum]

Addition by subtraction there, H78 is a garbage poster.

 

[reggiecleveland]

2018 thread title suggestions welcome.

The Road to the Superbowl Goes Through Here! (Under Review)

 

[wiffleballhero]

2018 thread title suggestions welcome.

For what it is worth, the criticism of trolling in this thread has always been a bit odd (to me at least) since the title of the thread is itself trolling.

 

[soxhop411]

Steelers seem to be all talk no action.

Also I bet PIT cuts him for this.

 

[DJnVa]

Steelers seem to be all talk no action.

Also I bet PIT cuts him for this.

They haven’t shut up their guys before, why would they start now? plus they won’t take the cap hit.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

For what it is worth, the criticism of trolling in this thread has always been a bit odd (to me at least) since the title of the thread is itself trolling.

It's a bit of a balance, but that's a fair criticism. If Steelers fans want to take more of an active role here, a la Phins thread, PM me.

 

[dcmissle]

For what it is worth, the criticism of trolling in this thread has always been a bit odd (to me at least) since the title of the thread is itself trolling.

Fucking with people after a tough loss is always counterproductive.

We have some terrific, IMO, Steeler fans here, just as we have terrific Cowboy fans and fans of other teams. They do not have thin skins — quite the opposite. If anything, I’d like much more, not less, participation by these people.

Back to substance —

If poor time management and tactical end-game decision making were firing offenses in the NFL, you’d clear out 20 to 24 HCs a year.

It’s astonishing that the NFL owners put up with what they put up with, but they do.

 

[steveluck7]

If ever there was a right situation to fire a coach after a 13-3 season, this has to be it. Not only did he allow for the team to look beyond the Jaguars but the outward brazenness of it is amazing. You add that to whatever happened this year with Harrison, Leveon Bell talking holdout 3 days before a playoff game, and the teams inability to shut up after the Patriots game, and it really looks like the culture needs to be changed.

 

[RedOctober3829]

2018 thread title suggestions welcome.

2018 Steelers: Still Waiting for Round 2

 

[teddykgb]

There's a round 2 every year lol

Normally I would not have rooted for the Steelers to lose but in this instance all the running of their mouths was impossible to ignore. Very glad that the Jaguars won simply because I want to live in a world where looking past your opponents and disrespecting them comes at a cost.

From a go forward perspective, while I would not expect the Steelers to fire Tomlin and would not have advocated for it prior to the last 2 months, I think you have to consider it because of the self immolation. To lose while being so brazen just doesn't sit right with me and as above does make you start to question the culture of the team. We are all generally biased here in NE to the Patriots approach but I don't even know how the coach could reel them in now going forward.

 

[Dehere]

They have a terrible habit under Tomlin of looking past teams and playing to the perceived level of the competition. I'm not for firing Tomlin but someone in ownership has to demand better focus and much better discipline in what the players say publicly.

For the 2018 thread title I'd nominate "We're On To New England". The Pats are in the head of this team and the fans so badly it's sickening. That's not trolling; I'm a Steeler fan. But the obsession with the Pats has got to change. This team is incapable of focusing on the job in front of them, and now their season is over.

 

[soxhop411]

They haven’t shut up their guys before, why would they start now? plus they won’t take the cap hit.

Good point. I guess they will continue to yap and then fail to back it up.

 

[Vinho Tinto]

The number of people calling for Tomlin’s head tells me that the Jaguars are still not viewed as a legitimate contender in this forum.

 

[PayrodsFirstClutchHit]

The number of people calling for Tomlin’s head tells me that the Jaguars are still not viewed as a legitimate contender in this forum.

The majority of people calling for Tomlin's head are in the various Steeler's forums polluting the internet.

 

[Boston Brawler]

Lots of people in their forums are saying they should hire Rex

 

[RedOctober3829]

The number of people calling for Tomlin’s head tells me that the Jaguars are still not viewed as a legitimate contender in this forum.

It’s not just this year. It’s multiple instances of players and even the head coach having no discipline and doing something stupid to cause distractions before an important game. Clearly they did not respect the Jaguars despite losing 30-9 at home this season. Bell talking about his contract and tweeting about Round 2 with NE. Tomlin himself talking about NE before playing the Packers and then last year HeadsetGate. Last year it was AB with FB Live. Hell you can go back to ‘07 with Anthony Smith calling out Brady.

 

[dcmissle]

Steelers change their HCs about as often as most people change their wills, and I don’t expect that to change. It has served them well.

I find it impossible to get inside the team’s head to determine the extent to which they really are looking past opponents. I detest the yapping but am the first to acknowledge that’s largely personal taste. I am very happy Belichick won’t tolerate it, but that’s me.

The Patriots obsession is probably counterproductive, but that too is based on years of personal experience. I don’t think Yankees’ obsession served the Red Sox well before they broke it.

One thing I do get as a Ravens ticket holder. This AFC North bullshit. I think it is a marketing play by both teams. It encourages a “we don’t back down, we do what we do and others adjust” mindset. I don’t think that’s terribly smart.

Maybe not coincidentally, both John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin have earned PhD’s in making coordinators the fall guys and deflecting responsibility. I wonder who wakes up to this first — Rooney or Bisciotti.

If I were a Steeler fan, I’d probably want a more thoughtful, intelligent approach. Chuck Noll showed you can be both cerebral and tough. Then again, to me, Chuck Noll is on Mt Rushmore, so I’m biased.

edit. Hire Rex? Sweet Jesus. I guess the Steelers know well who they are marketing to.

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

Steelers seem to be all talk no action.

Also I bet PIT cuts him for this.

Wasn't last year's refrain "We here. We here." Edelman shut that shit down in an hilarious fashion IIRC.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Wasn't last year's refrain "We here. We here." Edelman shut that shit down in an hilarious fashion IIRC.

I think Artie Burns said it. Edelman replied 'if you have to say it, you ain't'

 

[Vinho Tinto]

Maybe not coincidentally, both John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin have earned PhD’s in making coordinators the fall guys and deflecting responsibility. I wonder who wakes up to this first — Rooney or Bisciotti.

Tomlin has replaced one offensive and defensive coordinator in eleven years (And in both of the cases of Arians and LeBeau I believe that ownership had more of a say than Tomlin). And it would have been easy to cut bait on either Haley or Butler earlier. I don’t see him as a leader who buried his staff when things don’t work.

 

[ifmanis5]

Salty.

 

[Sportsbstn]

Nm wrong thread