2017 Cap expected to be 163-165M

[axx]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18253609/nfl-projected-salary-cap-2017-expected-163-165-million

They are expecting about a 8-10M increase over this season. Patscap has the current cap figure around 112 mill, so there would be plenty of space at the moment to extend guys or sign free agents.

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

Cool, now we can re-sign Hightower, Butler AND Collins!!! Oh wait...

 

[Ed Hillel]

I think the Pats number for committments next year is 104, not 112, and willl drop to around 96-98 million after a few cuts (Amendola alone saves 6.5 million). Their adjusted cap should be 173-175.

Soooo....75-80 million?

That is a lot of money, even with a number of holes. Worth a new thread, I will work on one later.

 

[j-man]

u need 2 DL 1 OLB 2 CB and a SS

i wouild offer my 1 to ZONA for fietz WR u need a WR outside the numbers that tall

 

[pappymojo]

Is there a cap in terms of how much can be rolled into the following year?

 

[edmunddantes]

Is there a cap in terms of how much can be rolled into the following year?

In the sense of the four year rolling average of cap spending percentage each team needs to hit there is a soft one. And can only ever roll from one year to the next. Can't just keep rolling. So technically one year if everyone was a rookie on minimum salary would give you the theoretical limit I would think.

 

[Ed Hillel]

In the sense of the four year rolling average of cap spending percentage each team needs to hit there is a soft one. And can only ever roll from one year to the next. Can't just keep rolling. So technically one year if everyone was a rookie on minimum salary would give you the theoretical limit I would think.

Your point about the rolling average stands, but why can't a team keep rolling? If the Pats roll over 20 this year to next and don't spend that 20 million, why wouldn't it roll over again the year after that? I believe it would.

 

[j-man]

I think the Pats number for committments next year is 104, not 112, and willl drop to around 96-98 million after a few cuts (Amendola alone saves 6.5 million). Their adjusted cap should be 173-175.

Soooo....75-80 million?

That is a lot of money, even with a number of holes. Worth a new thread, I will work on one later.

Your point about the rolling average stands, but why can't a team keep rolling? If the Pats roll over 20 this year to next and don't spend that 20 million, why wouldn't it roll over again the year after that? I believe it would.

is there a stie i know over the cap where i can see all teams caps for 2017

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

u need 2 DL 1 OLB 2 CB and a SS

i wouild offer my 1 to ZONA for fietz WR u need a WR outside the numbers that tall

J man, I don't see them spending a #1 on a receiver, certainly not one that close to the end of the line. Picks will most likely be used on the stuff you list in your first sentence. They need to restock the D. Again.

 

[j-man]

i agree but a tall WR that can catch wouild make your off unguarded even without grok

 

[edmunddantes]

Your point about the rolling average stands, but why can't a team keep rolling? If the Pats roll over 20 this year to next and don't spend that 20 million, why wouldn't it roll over again the year after that? I believe it would.

say cap is like 150. Assume no cap growth.

One year You only use 130.
That means you get 170 adjusted for next year, but cap is still 150.

Now you use 150. There is nothing to rollover as you weren't under the cap even though you were under the adjusted cap.

If you use 160. There is nothing to rollover. You are 10 million over the cap, but are 10 million under the adjusted. Though you did take advantage of the rollover.

If you use 140, you are 10 million under the cap. Your are also 30 million under the adjusted. You get to rollover the 10 million you were under the real cap.

My data rollover with ATT works this same way.

 

[soxhop411]

I think the Pats number for committments next year is 104, not 112, and willl drop to around 96-98 million after a few cuts (Amendola alone saves 6.5 million). Their adjusted cap should be 173-175.

Soooo....75-80 million?

That is a lot of money, even with a number of holes. Worth a new thread, I will work on one later.

Can't wait. You are better at it then me

 

[Ed Hillel]

say cap is like 150. Assume no cap growth.

I am looking for this online somewhere, but I am under the impression that rollover is calculated by subtracting a team's cap figure from its adjusted cap, not the league cap.

 

[edmunddantes]

I am trying to find the article I saw but it was too long ago when CBA came out, and I'm not finding it anymore.

Let's put this as I'm not sure. Need to find more concrete answers.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

I am looking for this online somewhere, but I am under the impression that rollover is calculated by subtracting a team's cap figure from its adjusted cap, not the league cap.

That is my understanding as well. For example, per Miguel, the Pats were about 1.3M under the adjusted cap in 2015 but only very barely under the league cap. But we rolled over 1.3M into this year.

Re your earlier post, Miguel has us at 112M in cap commitments for 2017 counting 53 signed players, dead money, and a few projected ERFA pickups. But the Top 51 salary number is only 103M so I think that might be the difference between the two numbers you cited earlier. In any case, that is a ton of salary cap space

 

[soxhop411]

Its higher than the OP thought

Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero 40m40 minutes ago
Source: NFL teams were informed today the per-team salary cap for 2017 is projected to be $166 million to $170M. Up from $155.27M this year.


@axx

 

[soxhop411]

The Patriots will have a ton of money to spend