2017-18 NBA Regular Season Game/Observation Thread

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Hornets led the Heat, 105-100, with the ball, with 49 seconds to go in the game. Batum, who did score 26 points, committed 2 turnovers, leading to 5 quick Miami points and a tie score at the 30 second mark. Kemba missed two shots, and Olynyk got fouled on a marginal call with less than a second to go. Made one, and the Heat get the win, 106-105.
 

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Nader+Larkin for Evans, if Memphis views Nader as a late first/early 2nd round equivalent. (Jeff Van Gundy loves Nader, for whatever that's worth).

Use the DPE for Monroe.
If Nader/Larkin gets it done for Tyreke, then I think Danny would pull that trigger in less than a nanosecond. I just really, really, really don't think that gets it done. Evans is on the verge of being a pretty special player in the league, IMO. And Nader/Larkin, well, they just aren't..
 

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Lot of awesome, but empty seats down near the floor for this one. If they can't sell the courtside seats for a Saturday night game against the Warriors, when can they sell them?
 

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Houston’s ability to both switch on almost every screen with a combination of Harden, Paul, Gordon, Tucker, LRMM and when he’s healthy Ariza, all of whom can make threes, and also their ability to just make 20 threes in a game, make them a tough challenge for Golden State. No Iggy for GS, but no Ariza for Houston, which seems fair.
 

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D'Antoni had the Rockets run the PnR to get Curry on Harden to great success. Let's see what Kerr does next time out. Ariza being out is a bigger deal for Houston than Iguodala's absence for GS which makes this win even more impressive.
 

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2 terrible Wolves possessions in a row net them 6 points. Up 2 and the ball over Raps with 1:23 left. I'd take the Raps
 

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Lou Williams goes for 31 points and 10 steals for an interesting double/double.

He is going to get at the very least a KCP/Reddick deal this offseason
 

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Nader+Larkin for Evans, if Memphis views Nader as a late first/early 2nd round equivalent. (Jeff Van Gundy loves Nader, for whatever that's worth).

Use the DPE for Monroe.
o_O

I think that was the "Er....what?" smiley. Nader has done nothing in his two years since college, when he wasn't considered a draft prospect, to be viewed by anyone as a late 1st/early 2nd round equivalent at the age of 25 when next season begins.
 

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Lot of awesome, but empty seats down near the floor for this one. If they can't sell the courtside seats for a Saturday night game against the Warriors, when can they sell them?
Is it fair to say they are sold, but no one is using them? Iif they book the revenue anyway then it really lowers the incentive to change anything, empty seats or not.
 

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The issues with the Cavs are really troubling. IT isn't going to help their defensive issues, but they go far beyond just a weak defender here and there. To rank 29th, it is a whole team issue. Guys are not consistently giving a great effort and whatever system Lue and his staff are running is clearly not working. Look at this play here between Wade and Thompson trying to "switch" on a pick and roll:


I don't think these problems can be solved easily by a trade or by the Cavs just flipping a switch. I don't want to keep speculating this, but I have to think the overall uncertainty of LeBron's future is weighing down the team. The front office should be reluctant to make win-now moves unless they have a serious commitment from LeBron, and LeBron's entire handling of the "LeBron to LA" rumor has been odd. He hasn't denied it, and his career history indicates that when he doesn't think he can win a championship in his current situation, he goes to a place that gives him a better shot. Throw in his passive-aggressive use of social media, the uncertainty of Lue's future in Cleveland, etc. it can't be easy playing for that team, because everyone's future in Cleveland basically depends on whether or not LeBron is staying.

If Golden State traded Iggy and Nick Young for cap relief, I think they might be able to sign LeBron this off-season. If his whole goal is to win championships, that would be the best place for him to go.
 

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The issues with the Cavs are really troubling. IT isn't going to help their defensive issues, but they go far beyond just a weak defender here and there. To rank 29th, it is a whole team issue. Guys are not consistently giving a great effort and whatever system Lue and his staff are running is clearly not working. Look at this play here between Wade and Thompson trying to "switch" on a pick and roll:


I don't think these problems can be solved easily by a trade or by the Cavs just flipping a switch. I don't want to keep speculating this, but I have to think the overall uncertainty of LeBron's future is weighing down the team. The front office should be reluctant to make win-now moves unless they have a serious commitment from LeBron, and LeBron's entire handling of the "LeBron to LA" rumor has been odd. He hasn't denied it, and his career history indicates that when he doesn't think he can win a championship in his current situation, he goes to a place that gives him a better shot. Throw in his passive-aggressive use of social media, the uncertainty of Lue's future in Cleveland, etc. it can't be easy playing for that team, because everyone's future in Cleveland basically depends on whether or not LeBron is staying.

If Golden State traded Iggy and Nick Young for cap relief, I think they might be able to sign LeBron this off-season. If his whole goal is to win championships, that would be the best place for him to go.
Young’s on a one-year MLE, and the Ws are totally capped out even without Andre’s $16M. All they have to offer for the foreseeable future is the MLE, which I’m sure they’d happily offer to LeBron if he were willing to take it. The league would love that.

More realistically, I think he probably ends up in Houston, SA, or back in Miami (near his pharmacists and hair-growth experts, plus Spoelstra must now seem like the second coming of John Wooden after Blatt and Lue).
 

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Young’s on a one-year MLE, and the Ws are totally capped out even without Andre’s $16M. All they have to offer for the foreseeable future is the MLE, which I’m sure they’d happily offer to LeBron if he were willing to take it. The league would love that.

More realistically, I think he probably ends up in Houston, SA, or back in Miami (near his pharmacists and hair-growth experts, plus Spoelstra must now seem like the second coming of John Wooden after Blatt and Lue).
I wonder how LeBron and Pop would work together
 

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Argh, looks like the Celtics weren't the only team that forgot how to play defense today. Knicks give up 127 to the Lakers and lose. But not a bad day for the pick otherwise: Nets eked out a win over Detroit, and Orlando won earlier in the afternoon. ;)
 

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watching Steven Adams abuse the Cavs makes me want the Celtics to use the DPE on Monroe once he is bought out.
I am sure you were mostly joking, but this is a huge "no" for me. Big men who can't either spread the floor or defend the rim are obsolete in the modern NBA.
 

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The LeBron to Houston thing, which has picked up steam over the past few months, makes little sense to me. If anyone can figure out how to clear space to add LeBron, its Morey. That said, does anyone really see either LeBron or D'Antoni embracing one another? The Rockets already have two ball dominant superstars and a system that, at least, plays to their respective strengths. LeBron, for as good as he is, doesn't feel like a great fit for the Rockets.

That said, I get that the Lakers with George and LeBron plus their core of youngsters will struggle to compete. However his next stop - and he may stay in Cleveland one more year - is likely somewhat about his next career versus this one. Once again, LA or NY gives him access to business opportunities that aren't available in Houston or even Philly.
 

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The LeBron to Houston thing, which has picked up steam over the past few months, makes little sense to me. If anyone can figure out how to clear space to add LeBron, its Morey. That said, does anyone really see either LeBron or D'Antoni embracing one another? The Rockets already have two ball dominant superstars and a system that, at least, plays to their respective strengths. LeBron, for as good as he is, doesn't feel like a great fit for the Rockets.

That said, I get that the Lakers with George and LeBron plus their core of youngsters will struggle to compete. However his next stop - and he may stay in Cleveland one more year - is likely somewhat about his next career versus this one. Once again, LA or NY gives him access to business opportunities that aren't available in Houston or even Philly.
I've posted this several times before, but they can do what they did with Paul. If Lebron picks up his option, they can trade for him. It would take Anderson, Gordon, and enough draft picks to make it worthwhile for Cleveland.
 

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The other thing historically is that LeBron doesn't necessarily just join a loaded team, he goes to the team and it becomes built around him. His first season in Miami and his first season back in Cleveland, those teams were very different than the teams from the previous season. LeBron likes to kind of build his own team, so the Lakers make sense in that regard because they have all the assets to trade around and build a new team as soon as LeBron arrives.

I really don't like the argument that he wants to be in LA because that will help his future career after basketball. LeBron has become one of the like, 25 most famous people in the world and he has played the majority of his career in Cleveland. Whatever success LeBron is going to have post basketball is not going to be predicated on the fact that he played a few seasons in LA as opposed to San Antonio, or Houston or wherever.
 

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I've posted this several times before, but they can do what they did with Paul. If Lebron picks up his option, they can trade for him. It would take Anderson, Gordon, and enough draft picks to make it worthwhile for Cleveland.
I know you've posted this in the past and it makes sense. Like I said, Morey is as good as they come at these sorts of deals so if anyone can, its him.

@ Kliq, I agree that LeBron doesn't need to be in LA. However, he has a home there and if he wants to build his business interests, its better for that to be his home base than not. I agree that it isn't likely a deciding factor.

In fact, I think the most important determinant of where LeBron winds up is how much control he gets at his next stop. While I have questions about how much latitude that Magic and Pelinka might give LeBron, the coaching situation (with Walton or a successor) in Los Angeles seems more LeBron ready than Houston. Anything is possible and perhaps a James/D'Antoni union would be wholly embraced by both sides. However given what we know about both men, I have my doubts.
 

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If he has a home there, isn't that already his base then? It's not as if on his off days he would be swinging business deals and meeting with Hollywood bigwigs. I also strongly disagree that his next stop is about anything but his basketball legacy. He wants rings and his name atop more and more career leader lists
 

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I hate to say it but the Miami idea gives me pause. He's worked with Riley and Spo before and they have assets. Interesting.
No idea what his thought process is, but I'd imagine from a PR perspective going to Miami would have appeal in that it would make him look less like a journeyman mercenary than if he went to the Rockets, Spurs, Lakers, etc. He'd remain a "two team guy" — like Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, Durant et al.

Also, beyond the Riley/Spo connections, I'd imagine he and his wife and kids developed some pretty close personal ties in their four years in South Beach.

Meanwhile, the Heat are currently just a half-game behind the Cavs.
 

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Kidd was always a dead man walking after Justin Zanik left, plus the local fanbase hated him. They'll probably ride with an interim the rest of the year and then do a full blown search this offseason. They need to find someone that works well with Giannis or else he'll be the next superstar that wants out.