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RedOctober3829

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You might want to tell the conference commissioner it was a success. He already stated before the tournament that his idea didn't work and won't be repeated. They need to play a normal season, keep the tournament in Chicago and/or Indianapolis, and just move the championship game earlier on "Selection Sunday", so it matters (the committee has said they ignored it in the past because they couldn't rework things when it was the lead in to their show).

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He said that the process to get the tournament to NYC will not be repeated. Once it happened, yes I can safely say it was a success for them. The local team(Rutgers) made a very nice run to put more butts in the seats for those sessions on top of the 14,000 seats sold for all sessions. Any time analysts on BTN or CBS talked about having it in NYC it was labeled by the teams as a great experience. It's a bunch of excuses if the teams don't do well in the NCAA's blame it on the layoff.

From the article you posted. It doesn't sound like Delany has ruled out coming back to New York. The Barclays Center is seemingly open in the traditional week for 2019 and 2020 as the ACC will be back in Charlotte and Greensboro those year but I think it's probably too soon to come back.

“I know we will be back out East. Where we will be, I don’t know. It won’t be on a regular basis. I expect that 80 percent will be in legacy territory (Chicago and Indianapolis) and probably 20 percent out East, whether it’s in D.C. or Philadelphia or New York.”

Philadelphia, huh?

Delany indicated that the Palestra, which bills itself as the “Cathedral of College Basketball,” is too small with a capacity of 8,725.


He said he does not regret the decision to move the tournament to New York, saying: “I don’t look backward. … And I’m not overlooking the objective, which is to give the players and the teams and our fans there a chance to see the Big Ten in the Big Apple.”

Delany estimated about 100,000 Big Ten alumni live in New York City and about a million in “the corridor from northern Virginia to southern Connecticut.”

“It is home to some of the great institutions in America — political, media, educational, athletic,” Delany said. “We expect a very good response.”
 

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What's wrong with where the Sixers and Flyers play; other than making sure it's available some year?
 

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It looks like the Atlantic 10 is back to using the Barclays Center for their 19, 20, and 21 tournaments, though they did make a deal with the ACC to move last year and this year
 

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Anybody else watching Northeastern trying their best to piss this one away?
 

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Yep, in OT now.

On another channel I saw former Sox 1B Todd Benzinger..his son plays for Wright State; who, unless they utterly collapsed, got a bid
 

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These refs have made some questionable calls down the stretch here.
 

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I would think if I was Smith's age (which I am) and someone gave me 10 million to walk away, I might not complain very much.
Apparently Penny coaches some AAU studs and they aren't having any luck recruiting them. Of course, by the time those kids play for Memphis and move on they will end up on probation.
 

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He said that the process to get the tournament to NYC will not be repeated. Once it happened, yes I can safely say it was a success for them. The local team(Rutgers) made a very nice run to put more butts in the seats for those sessions on top of the 14,000 seats sold for all sessions. Any time analysts on BTN or CBS talked about having it in NYC it was labeled by the teams as a great experience. It's a bunch of excuses if the teams don't do well in the NCAA's blame it on the layoff.

From the article you posted. It doesn't sound like Delany has ruled out coming back to New York. The Barclays Center is seemingly open in the traditional week for 2019 and 2020 as the ACC will be back in Charlotte and Greensboro those year but I think it's probably too soon to come back.

“I know we will be back out East. Where we will be, I don’t know. It won’t be on a regular basis. I expect that 80 percent will be in legacy territory (Chicago and Indianapolis) and probably 20 percent out East, whether it’s in D.C. or Philadelphia or New York.”

Philadelphia, huh?

Delany indicated that the Palestra, which bills itself as the “Cathedral of College Basketball,” is too small with a capacity of 8,725.


He said he does not regret the decision to move the tournament to New York, saying: “I don’t look backward. … And I’m not overlooking the objective, which is to give the players and the teams and our fans there a chance to see the Big Ten in the Big Apple.”

Delany estimated about 100,000 Big Ten alumni live in New York City and about a million in “the corridor from northern Virginia to southern Connecticut.”

“It is home to some of the great institutions in America — political, media, educational, athletic,” Delany said. “We expect a very good response.”
The addition of Maryland and Rutgers was not because they were the best fit for the conference, it was because they allowed BTN (a huge cash cow for the conference) to expand distribution in the DC and NYC cable markets. Holding the conference championship in DC and NYC the past two years was a part of the same deal, and was decided long ago.

It wasn't a failure - and, as a Michigan fan, I enjoyed it very much. The fact that Delaney found it necessary to state "I don't look back" means he is aware that it wasn't optimal. And the Big East running a slew of commercials promoting their championship in the Garden on BTN during games on Thursday and Friday must have given him the red ass something fierce.

The conference championship location should either be fixed (like the Big East) or rotate between Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis, Indianapolis and an eastern city. (DC, NYC, Philly.) And yes, it should always finish on selection Sunday.
 
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Bucknell is dancing. Won the semi & final of the Patriot League tourney by 31 and 29 points, respectively. They start the best three players in the league and their 8-man rotation is probably top 20. This team is going to be a 13 or 14 and play a 3 or 4 to the last possession if not win outright. My wildest dreams include a sweet 16 run. Look out.
 

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Bucknell is dancing. Won the semi & final of the Patriot League tourney by 31 and 29 points, respectively. They start the best three players in the league and their 8-man rotation is probably top 20. This team is going to be a 13 or 14 and play a 3 or 4 to the last possession if not win outright. My wildest dreams include a sweet 16 run. Look out.
Too bad they can't drop to 15 and play Duke in the first round.
 

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Vermont got fucked by a bullshit out of bounds call that the refs changed to give the ball to UMBC when there was literally no video evidence of it, nevermind enough to change a call already made on the floor.
 

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PC and Seton Hall the only two "real" Big East teams to make the dance this year?

Back in the early 80s, that was a regular matchup in the Big East Tournament's 8/9 game (along with a cameo from UConn here and there...)

Edit: No, Miami is not hardly a "real" Big East team.
 

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PC and Seton Hall the only two "real" Big East teams to make the dance this year?

Back in the early 80s, that was a regular matchup in the Big East Tournament's 8/9 game (along with a cameo from UConn here and there...)

Edit: No, Miami is not hardly a "real" Big East team.
Villanova?
 

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I did not know that Chaminade was no longer in the Maui Invitational, but this article by Andy Katz says they are. What a field. Gonzaga, Duke, Auburn, Iowa State, SDSU, Xavier, Illinois, and Arizona.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-06-14/10-non-conference-basketball-tournaments-could-be-key-come
They are and they aren't.

Chaminade will participate in the tournament every other year beginning in 2019. In the years they are NOT in the event they will travel to the mainland for an "opening round" game which is essentially a tune-up designed for marketing purposes only as even if there is an upset the school will not advance to the "championship round" held on the island.
 

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They are and they aren't.

Chaminade will participate in the tournament every other year beginning in 2019. In the years they are NOT in the event they will travel to the mainland for an "opening round" game which is essentially a tune-up designed for marketing purposes only as even if there is an upset the school will not advance to the "championship round" held on the island.
Oh ok, did not know they'd be in the "mainland" portion. They have on-campus games for most of these pre-season tournaments now.