2016 Cowboys: Giddyup for Elliot
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But he threw two touchdowns!!!!!!!!
I thought he looked fine and he threw some good balls (coincidentally, his best throws were the two touchdowns). He showed good poise and his slide on the third down scramble that put them in field goal position is a sign of good decision-making. All preseason caveats apply, however, so I would like to see how he does against a real defensive scheme.
Frankly, the thing I was most excited about was the Chaz Green sighting. I've been wanting to see him in action for over a year. I really hope he can push Free for the right tackle spot.
I thought he looked fine and he threw some good balls (coincidentally, his best throws were the two touchdowns). He showed good poise and his slide on the third down scramble that put them in field goal position is a sign of good decision-making. All preseason caveats apply, however, so I would like to see how he does against a real defensive scheme.
Frankly, the thing I was most excited about was the Chaz Green sighting. I've been wanting to see him in action for over a year. I really hope he can push Free for the right tackle spot.
Some of my Cowboys fan friends are ready to send Romo packing based on 1 preseason game. And for some of them, the question isn't whether or not Ezekiel Elliot breaks Dickerson's season rushing record but when. As always, I do my best to egg them on.
Irrational exuberance aside, I have Cowboys being one of this year's resurgent teams. 2nd half schedule is about as easy as it gets.
Yeah the hype train has left the station and is headed to it's inevitable first stop at disappointment, which will likely happen during his next pre-season game. This kid seems to have a good head on his shoulders but all of this hype is going to test that. If he goes 4-10 with 2 INTs in the next game, all the grumbling about needing a veteran backup will be front and center again. I know that Showers was playing with the second string, but there was a huge difference in how they managed the game. Prescott looked pretty comfortable, Showers not so much. The fact that Prescott was a three year starter in the SEC and played before crowds that big really did seem to help him not be overwhelmed by the moment. Whether he's ready or not, he seems like the best developmental QB that the Cowboys have had on their roster in recent memory (not saying much....I'm looking at you Steven McGee). I'm not sure paying a premium to get a veteran backup who is going to have to learn the offense on the fly makes a lot of sense when you can toss the keys to him and see what he does. At least he has upside. Not sure you're going to be able to say that about McCown et al. Also, if Romo gets killed 20 minutes into the season, we're probably screwed anyway (especially since this defense is not going to be good enough) so why the hell not see what this kid can do? All he has to be is better than Matt Cassel and Brandon Weeden. Not sure that is a difficult hurdle to clear.
...in preseason. But he can't be doing anything more than he currently is. Would be huge from a roster construction standpoint if the Cowboys didn't have to spend any more assets finding Romo's replacement.
The drumbeat from fans, and more importantly Dez will be unbearable if Romo doesn't start out well.
I don't care how good he looks unless there is there a problem with Romo? He's good! He's just injury prone and aging. Both raise the value of dak and raise a risk of needing him sooner than later anyway. This controversy thing is nonsense... Right?
Thanks, Prescott, now Romo is going to win a Super Bowl with Denver in the near future, isn't he? Fuck.
Does Romo ever have a thought process? That's what makes him Romo. Seriously, he knows Dak is a real threat and is probably trying to make plays. Feels just like the end of Aikman's career where every game there's an injury.
Romo's a HOF level talent and its sickening how much shit he's gotten from fair-weather cowboys fans over the last decade. You can't reasonably ask for anything more than what Romo has given this franchise. Shameful.
No. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're part of the other, implied, group to which he's referring - idiot NFL fans who only know what ESPN and brainless memes tell them.
I'd go into a defense of what he said but I'd be wasting my time.
Worrying thing for the Cowboys is how soft that hit looked to cause that. If he's that vulnerable he has no shot of making it through a season. So we shall see. The Cowboys better hope dak is for real, and one of the great qb steals.
Edit and I agree Romo is excellent, any claims otherwise need some compelling evidence or your just echoing idiots. And this comes from the enemy
Edit and I agree Romo is excellent, any claims otherwise need some compelling evidence or your just echoing idiots. And this comes from the enemy
As a non-NFC East fan I agree that Romo was an excellent QB; however as they say health is a skill, and Romo does not have that skill, especially at his age, and that is what kept him from achieving HOF level production
It wasn't a hard hit but he went down in an awkward heap and his back bent at an extreme angle in the process. That would likely have hurt someone with a healthy back but because of his back history, it was worse for him.
Unfortunately, I foresee him not making it past Week 5 and calling it quits after missing yet another season to another back injury. Hard to tell still whether Prescott is the real deal (I haven't watched last night's game due to the late start) but I have a feeling we're going to find out for sure this season.
Sure, if you want to split hairs, I think we can come to an agreement that there's a difference between "HOF-level talent" and "sure-fire HOFer".
I don't think it is splitting hairs to be honest - do you honestly think Romo is going to make the hall?
Dude, that isn't what the other guy said to start this kerfluffle, and Bosoxen isn't gonna get promoted at firejerryjones.com for another compelling defense of Romo.
It's splitting straw. ;-)
No. Because, as you alluded to, he won't play long enough to get the votes to get in. Not that it matters because that's not what foulkehampshire and I were saying anyway. You made that leap, not us.
(With the caveat of playing in different eras).
Aikman continues to be seriously overrated by Cowboys fans due to ringzzzz and Romo continues to be seriously underrated.
TD
Romo: 247
Aikman: 165
INT
Romo: 117
Aikman: 141
Yards
Romo: 34,154
Aikman: 32,942
Rating
Romo: 97.1
Aikman: 81.6
Seasons with 90+ QB rating
Romo: 9
Aikman: 2
Aikman continues to be seriously overrated by Cowboys fans due to ringzzzz and Romo continues to be seriously underrated.
TD
Romo: 247
Aikman: 165
INT
Romo: 117
Aikman: 141
Yards
Romo: 34,154
Aikman: 32,942
Rating
Romo: 97.1
Aikman: 81.6
Seasons with 90+ QB rating
Romo: 9
Aikman: 2
Aikman also had considerably better talent around him on offense than Romo has had. Aikman had a HOF RB, HOF WR, and a HOF-level TE with arguably the best offensive line group in the history of the game to protect him. Sure Romo has had Witten who will be in the HOF but what other top talent has he had? Dez Bryant for 2 seasons and DeMarco Murray's 1 big season?
Yup. Aikman had loaded teams. Romo had some talented teams but never anything approaching what Aikman had. But since Aikman won 3 SBs and Romo has never been past the Divisional Round (which is too bad), Aikman is untouchable in Dallas and Romo is the favorite whipping boy. His whole legacy might be different if Patrick Crayton doesn't puke all over himself against the Giants in 2007.
As a non-Cowboy fan I for one will be glad when Romo's off the field. The guy has been great, and is vastly underrated. Sure he's had his share of knucklehead moments, and in fact probably more than his fair share, but he's an awesome QB. He's also a hard guy to dislike, which is not good when the Cowboys are on equal standing as the Yankees in your household.
Times certainly have changed in Dallas from the days where the fans were BEGGING for 3rd stringer Romo to be put in over whatever riff raff they had at the time (so many have gone through there, I've forgotten). Reminds me of the time at the end of Terry Bradshaw's career, the Steelers fans were begging for Bubby Brister.
Moral of the story: Be careful what you wish for.
Dallas really has been fortunate at the QB position: Meredith to Staubach to White to Aikman with hardly any breaks in between. That covers 1960-2000. It's been pretty sad since except for Romo. But at least you have had 40+ good years there.
Off the top of my head, between Aikman and Romo they had:
Bernie Kosar
Quincy Carter
Chad Hutchinson
Drew Henson
Vinny Testaverde (I still remember like it was yesterday when the Dallas Morning News blared the headline "VINNY THE POOH" the morning after a 3-4 interception stinker)
Drew Bledsoe
I know I'm missing a few but there's no way in Hades I'm going to go digging for that. That's a trip down memory lane I really don't want to take.
In my opinion, there are not many players whose contributions are as poorly evaluated as Romo and Aikman.
Aikman is not as great as the general public perceives, but he is also not as bad as the folks who love to douche all over him like to say. Romo has played behind some carrier-class offensive lines and he has had some tremendous skill players him (Bryant, Owens, Murray, etc). While his talent level has not been Michael Irvin/Emmitt Smith good, it hasn't been godawful (See "McNabb. Donovan" for that......holy shit).
Aikman played in a much less friendly passing era compared to Romo and he also - and I could be remembering this incorrectly - had more say on playcalling than Romo does now. It kills me to say it, but Troy Aikman was a fucking smart QB.
I am now going to bathe in acid. This thread makes me hate myself.
Jon Machota @jonmachota 3m3 minutes ago
Tony Romo had an MRI Friday. MRI found he has a broken bone in his back
Tony Romo had an MRI Friday. MRI found he has a broken bone in his back
Fuck me. That's why I didn't want to go back and look.
As for Romo, he has no lives left. Stick a fork in him.
Per Scheffer: Tony Romo has a compression fracture of his L1 vertebrae, per @toddarcher, an injury that could sideline him 6-10 weeks.
Not a doctor, but:
This fracture has longer term implications than this timetable, because not only does that kind of fracture cause a lot of pain (no shit!), but it often doesn't resolve itself, and it can also alter the mechanics of the posture (Sherman, 2016). This results in an increase in thoracic kyphosis, often meaning the patient cannot stand upright. When trying to walk, kyphosis patients often report addition pain in hips, sacroiliac, and spinal joints. Last but not least, the risk of secondary fractures (spine and otherwise) is increased from accidents and falls (ibid).
What does it look like? Below are anteroposterior and lateral radiographs of an L1 osteoporotic wedge compression fracture.
This fracture has longer term implications than this timetable, because not only does that kind of fracture cause a lot of pain (no shit!), but it often doesn't resolve itself, and it can also alter the mechanics of the posture (Sherman, 2016). This results in an increase in thoracic kyphosis, often meaning the patient cannot stand upright. When trying to walk, kyphosis patients often report addition pain in hips, sacroiliac, and spinal joints. Last but not least, the risk of secondary fractures (spine and otherwise) is increased from accidents and falls (ibid).
What does it look like? Below are anteroposterior and lateral radiographs of an L1 osteoporotic wedge compression fracture.
With this said, though, do we really expect Linehan's system to change though? He derives his scheme from Dennis Erickson's one back spread offense, with its PA, inside zone running, and the curl-flat with post over the top "Mills" play, as Spurrier called it.
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Dak better be good. The people excited about starting him this season better be drinking hard. Rookies starting week 1 esp later round picks... I don't know they have much track record.
I got to think they run the f out of the ball like Murray's last year.
I got to think they run the f out of the ball like Murray's last year.