Not to mention the ball being batted down at the line of scrimmage on their last offensive play. That would have been offered up as some sort of character flaw.
I've always viewed Romo (at least the past 4 or 5 years or so once he got established longer term) as an exceptionally good QB who was just shy of the Brady/Manning/Rodgers tier but likely better than the Eli Mannings and Joe Flaccos even though the media narrative tends to be against that line of thinking because of superbowl rings. He couldn't drag a terrible team to 11-5/10-6 like those top tier guys could, but he definitely dragged some pretty bad teams to 9-7/8-8, and then got subsequently blamed for them not doing better. The '09 team was probably not playoff material either but better than some of those 2011-2013 squads, so he was able to get them to 11-5.
The horseshoe up that Giants teams' asses had a horseshoe up its ass. I remember the Caldwell moment but completely forgot about that play. Perfect pass by Romo. Poor guy.
Anthony Fasano also had a killer drop at the goal line on Dallas's first drive of the second half that would have put them up 21-14
Quite frankly I find it funny to think professional athletes in this day and age - especially in the NFL, where contract aren't guaranteed and careers are so short - care about their "legacy" over and above their bank account. And rightfully so. They should get the best dime they can in the best situation they can and that's what they do.
Before this subject gets buried, I wanted to bring up another play. On NY's first possession of the game, Demarcus Ware got called offside on a play in which he timed the snap perfectly. That play would have resulted in NY punting. Instead, they got the free first down and scored a touchdown on the following play.
I think this is exactly right. Cowboys fans view Romo more like Danny White than Roger Staubach (they would have won the Super Bowl multiple times if not for that crappy QB). Hell, even Don Meredith has kind of a shit reputation among that lot - seems he's more fondly remembered as the voice of MNF than as QB of the Cowboys.
Me too. Wow. He literally just stopped running his route. That must be impossible for Romo to watch.
Holy shit, I remember the Ware play now that you brought it up. I had completely forgotten. The replay showed him not offsides...it actually wasn't close either but he got up out of his stance at the perfect time so it "looked" offsides in real time.
Well, sure, it was his fault the pass was incomplete. How could he not anticipate that Crayton would stop running his route when he's gotten behind the coverage and the corner of the end zone was wide open?
Can you clarify this? I was saying Romo couldn't watch the video because Crayton screwed him, not because Romo messed up.
For the record, I took it the way you intended.
Goes to show you what Bosoxen's always looking for.For the record, I took it the way you intended.
Somewhere in his man cave, Romo probably has a lengthy secret list...
I was sarcastically commenting from the point of view of an idiot fan who thinks Romo can do no right. People literally still put the entirety of the blame for that game on Romo's shoulders but we've outlined, what, five plays which altered the course of the game. None of which had anything to do with Romo's "tendency to choke".
There was also a penalty against Romo late in the fourth quarter for intentional grounding where he was not under pressure and threw the ball to the sidelines, but someone had run the wrong route and was not there. Usually in that situation where there's no pressure they don't throw the flag, but in this case they got together and penalized him for it. I thought that was curious.
Aight, thanks for the clarification. Seriously though, that Crayton play is unacceptable.
I think fans overthink this. Almost every player has a second team these days. Will Jets fans hate Derelle Revis because he played for the Pats? Do 49ers fans hate Jerry Rice because he played for the Raiders? Heck, most Pats fans I know still love Curtis Martin even.
That kind of plays into what I'm saying. If Romo goes to Houston or Denver and wins a Super Bowl there, he will not be viewed kindly in Dallas. Especially if the NFC opponent is the Cowboys.
At this point, Romo's nearly broken in two. I don't think Dallas fans have to worry about him winning a Super Bowl with another team. It would be a shock if he lasted a full season before he packs it in. Houston would obviously be a good fit, with some really solid pieces, but Romo's time has passed.
I disagree that the majority of fans would view him that harshly if he went to an AFC team and won. I mean, it's not like he went there while leaving an offer from Dallas on the table. If he went to an NFC team then I could see more backlash.
That's certainly a possibility. I happen to think he has one or two years left in him but the fact that retirement is apparently still on the table seems to suggest he's not entirely certain of that himself.
I guess I just don't have a rosy picture of Cowboys fans in general - I get to see them from both sides of the fan spectrum as a Cowboys and Red Sox fan. They're an irrational lot with delusions of entitlement. I fancy myself a realist (though some call that pessimism) and I just don't see how his treatment would improve by going to another team. He's not treated particularly well now so I just don't see how popular opinion would change for the better if he were to go somewhere else and find success.
I'm not his doctor, obviously, but I do play one on the internet. He's one hit away from being crippled for the rest of his life and he's got money and a potential future in broadcasting, so he's set for life. That must be scary for him, in a way I could never relate to. Is it worth the risk?
We were having this same conversation about Peyton a few years ago. I think Romo gives it one last shot somewhere else and then hangs it up if/when he gets hurt.
I don't know enough about the guy to say one way or the other, but it is hard for me to imagine a guy as talented as he is looking at Denver and Houston and not thinking that there were a few folks he would like to make eat their words. I may be wrong, but I sure think that both of those clubs have a much better chance of making it to the SB with him.
I hope he has room in his house for all the flowers Hopkins, Sanders and Thomas must be sending him.
I hear you on this, but it's the Redskins I was talking about. Romo to Washington definitely impacts his 'legacy' with both the Cowboys organization and the fans, IMO. Going from Dallas to Denver is not nearly the same thing as going Dallas to Washington. Especially if he leads Washington to the Bowl, or God forbid wins it. It's why Andy Pettitte was never coming to Boston even though they flirted when he was a FA. And it's why Wade Boggs isn't really all that adored by Sox fans. Or why Johnny Damon is outright disliked here. I don't agree with any of it and I think it's all stupid, but I think it exists. Whether it's a real thing that Romo gives two shits about, who knows.
This is my thinking on Romo. From all accounts he feels physically the best he has in years. And while it was only one drive in the final game, I think he put to rest the folks who were speculating that he would be out there throwing wobbly ducks and overwhelmed by the game after missing a full season...the dude was throwing seeds. Obviously he could still be one hit away from retirement, that hasn't changed, but I would be shocked if he didn't give it another go.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/01/19/nfl-admits-mistake-on-huddle-penalty-on-brice-butler/
That's cool it was only 5 yards and didn't affect scoring.... Football is more fun if you just watch it like the WWE.
How can you say that? Was a 15 yard penalty. If there is no penalty, the 22 yard reception stands and they have the ball First and 10 on GB 16, instead of 2-10 on the GB 48. When "Dallas couldn't move the ball"..
I want to say he did that earlier this year too. And it was a similar situation.
