2015 Seahawks: Our offense doesnt need Lynch, Graham or Rawls

Shelterdog · Feb 12, 2015

Super Nomario said:
Risk / reward is part of it. I think the other thing is that teams can leverage changing non-guaranteed money to guaranteed money to clear cap space. Under the terms of the contract Brady signed in 2010, he was supposed to have a cap figure of $18.2 MM this year. They renegotiated in 2013, guaranteeing him $46 MM over the next five seasons, but lowering his cap figures over those years to between 13 - 15 MM. That's typical; teams clear cap space by renegotiating with the QB (usually the highest-paid player): the team gets short-term cap space, and the player gets more guarantees. If Wilson's deal is all guaranteed, the team effectively is shooting their bullets up front; it's not going to be as straight-forward to clear cap space later (if it's even legal) by modifying the contract.

(all numbers from http://patscap.com/brady.html#brady)

Presumably you could turn guaranteed salary into signing/roster bonuses--for example if he's guaranteed 16 million in 2016 you might still be able to convert some of that guaranty into a bonus at the beginning of the year, pay Wilson most of the money in a bonus rather than in 16 game checks, and pro rate the bonus over the remainder of the contract.

The big upside for a team is you save money, the downside is you end up with a player you can't cut. Is a 32 year old Russell Wilson in 2020 going to be worth $x million? Hard to say right now.

soxhop411 · Feb 13, 2015

NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL 2h2 hours ago
Marshawn Lynch is unsure if he will play in 2015 » http://es.pn/1EmqNcb

NortheasternPJ · Feb 17, 2015

Anyone have an opinion on what is the best Seahawks message board? I would never post but interested to see fans thoughts on team building etc with lynch and Wilson etc.

I've read Seahawks.net but there's a lot of junk on there as well. A number of good posters but a lot of bandwagon.

DanoooME · Feb 17, 2015

NortheasternPJ said:
Anyone have an opinion on what is the best Seahawks message board? I would never post but interested to see fans thoughts on team building etc with lynch and Wilson etc.

I've read Seahawks.net but there's a lot of junk on there as well. A number of good posters but a lot of bandwagon.

All of the boards I have found really kinda suck. The only Seahawks-centric site I read is Field Gulls (part of SB Nation). They've got some great quality writers there.

Al Zarilla · Feb 17, 2015

DanoooME said:
All of the boards I have found really kinda suck. The only Seahawks-centric site I read is Field Gulls (part of SB Nation). They've got some great quality writers there.

I went over there for a bit. What I saw was good writers like you said, and some still all over Bevell for the call in more than one thread. Fire him!

Marciano490 · Feb 19, 2015

Golden Tate on the playcall and banging Russell Wilson's wife. Also, Golden Tate leaving a bar with 3 attractive women.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRhoguZzxZ4[/youtube]

mpx42 · Feb 19, 2015

Jeremy Lane didn't just break his arm on the INT return, he tore his ACL, per Bob Condotta. Insane.

theapportioner · Feb 19, 2015

mpx42 said:
Jeremy Lane didn't just break his arm on the INT return, he tore his ACL, per Bob Condotta. Insane.

Hasn't been repaired yet. Unless he has Adrian Peterson's healing abilities, he'll miss at least part of next season recovering from the ACL tear. Pretty big loss.

DanoooME · Feb 19, 2015

Marciano490 said:
Golden Tate on the playcall and banging Russell Wilson's wife. Also, Golden Tate leaving a bar with 3 attractive women.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRhoguZzxZ4[/youtube]

Wait, where was Golden Tate in the video and what did he say? All I could see was grey shirt.

Marciano490 · Feb 19, 2015

When I go out with my groupies, I also arrange them by height and cup size.

DukeSox · Feb 20, 2015

Abs are real

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/m/random-thoughts/and-here-is-the-girl-in-gray-from-the-golden-tate-video/

Kull · Feb 20, 2015

DukeSox said:
Abs are real

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/m/random-thoughts/and-here-is-the-girl-in-gray-from-the-golden-tate-video/

This is my new favorite thread.

theapportioner · Feb 20, 2015

DukeSox said:
Abs are real

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/m/random-thoughts/and-here-is-the-girl-in-gray-from-the-golden-tate-video/

But what's her 3-cone time?

Marciano490 · Feb 20, 2015

theapportioner said:
But what's her 3-cone time?

It's pretty clear Golden was the one working on the 3-cone drill that night.

RedOctober3829 · Feb 24, 2015

Seattle Seahawks safety Earl Thomas will have surgery Tuesday to repair the torn labrum in his left shoulder, potentially jeopardizing his availability for the early part of the NFL season, Ed Werder of ESPN reports.

Thomas suffered the injury, which caused his left shoulder to dislocate, while trying to tackle Green Bay Packers receiver Randall Cobb in the NFC Championship Game. Thomas later returned to the game wearing a shoulder harness, which he also wore as a starter in the Seahawks' loss to the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLIX.

The typical rehabilitation for this type of surgery is six to eight months, and that jeopardizes Thomas' participation for training camp and availability for the early part of the NFL season.

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/48125/Earl-Thomas-to-undergo-surgery/Default.aspx

DanoooME · Mar 6, 2015

Per Mike Florio, Marshawn Lynch given a new 3 year deal replacing the last year of his old deal:

2015 - $7.5M signing bonus, $4.5M base salary ($7M against the cap)
2016 - $9M base salary ($11.5M against the cap)
2017 - $3M roster bonus (due on 5th day of league year), $7M base salary ($12.5M against the cap)

We'll see if he plays this contract out too. I like the low first year in terms of cap impact to be able to get some more players and there is some impact on the cap the next two years, but we'll see if he retires or not as he has been threatening.

DanoooME · Mar 10, 2015

I'll comment more on the FA signings when they become official so someone doesn't pull a Gore.

They did re-sign TE Anthony McCoy to a 1-year deal after he missed virtually all of the last two years with tears of both Achilles.

They also re-signed ST Mike Morgan to a 1-year deal as well.

And they cut TE Zach Miller, who missed 13 games last year and was going to cost $3.4M against the cap. They do end up with $1M in dead money, so it's a $2.4M cap savings.

Super Nomario · Mar 10, 2015

After today's trade, the Seahawks are now without a first-round pick for the third straight draft. That worry you 'Hawks fans?

DanoooME · Mar 10, 2015

Super Nomario said:
After today's trade, the Seahawks are now without a first-round pick for the third straight draft. That worry you 'Hawks fans?

I would have expected they were going to trade down anyway. Hopefully turning it into a top notch talent works out better this time.

Super Nomario · Mar 11, 2015

wibi said:
Nope. Seattle has been very good at finding value in the later rounds and havent needed a first round pick. That and they've been to two Super Bowls in the last two years which earns PC and JS a ton of trust

They've done a great job with that, for sure. I'm dubious that you can count on that going forward. Graham fills a need, but he's making $9 MM / year - your first round pick would make that over the four years of his rookie contract. Wilson's going to get paid soon and skipping out on first-rounders for three years is going to make it tougher to fill in the pieces around him.

mpx42 · Mar 17, 2015

Cowboys beat reporter says "Michael Bennett is seeking a trade to Atlanta and a new contract," and explains that's why Seattle is pursuing Greg Hardy.

https://twitter.com/clarencehilljr/status/577887854774214656

ThePrideofShiner · Mar 17, 2015

Well, that is unexpected. Really likes Dan Quinn I guess? Or really hates Jimmy Graham?

Super Nomario · Mar 17, 2015

mpx42 said:
Cowboys beat reporter says "Michael Bennett is seeking a trade to Atlanta and a new contract," and explains that's why Seattle is pursuing Greg Hardy.

https://twitter.com/clarencehilljr/status/577887854774214656

Just bizarre. Who wants to go from a team that's gone 25-7 over the past two seasons (30-8 counting playoffs) to one that's gone 10-22? His Wiki says he's from Louisiana, went to high school in Houston and college at Texas A&M. Why Atlanta?

E5 Yaz · Mar 17, 2015

Super Nomario said:
Just bizarre. Who wants to go from a team that's gone 25-7 over the past two seasons (30-8 counting playoffs) to one that's gone 10-22? His Wiki says he's from Louisiana, went to high school in Houston and college at Texas A&M. Why Atlanta?

Falcons' new coach is Seattle former DC

mpx42 · Mar 17, 2015

Atlanta has Dan Quinn, sure, but this has to be about more money, no? He might have been the best player on the field in the Super Bowl and is probably underpaid despite just being one year into a new deal. I can't imagine trading for Jimmy Graham has anything to do with it.

Ed Hillel · Mar 17, 2015

wibi said:
Trading Bennett sticks Seattle with $6M in dead money and only a $2M cap savings. Not sure what Seattle can get back to make that hit worth it

There's no reason to trade him on that contract. It's a good deal for Seattle and Bennett's making enough that he's not going to hold out and lose guaranteed money. Let him have his moment of sadness, he'll be there.

Reverend · Mar 17, 2015

mpx42 said:
Atlanta has Dan Quinn, sure, but this has to be about more money, no? He might have been the best player on the field in the Super Bowl and is probably underpaid despite just being one year into a new deal. I can't imagine trading for Jimmy Graham has anything to do with it.

Announcing ahead of time which team you want to play for is not a good way of making more money.

ThePrideofShiner · Mar 17, 2015

Seahawks beat writer for the Tacoma News Tribune says that Bennett has not asked for a trade.

Gregg Bell ‏@gbellseattle 38m38 minutes ago
Also confirmed DE Michael Bennett has NOT asked #Seahawks to trade him. Team knows no basis for that report.

ThePrideofShiner · Mar 17, 2015

Bennett and Hardy have the same agent, and if Hardy is negotiating with Dallas it makes sense for Rosenhaus to float that rumor about Bennett, so sayeth Gregg Bell:

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2015/03/17/seahawks-no-basis-for-reports-michael-bennett-wants-a-trade-doing-due-diligence-on-free-agent-greg-hardy/

mpx42 · Mar 17, 2015

That would make more sense than any other scenario.

ThePrideofShiner · Apr 14, 2015

I have a theory that the reason Russell Wilson's deal has yet to be completed is because the team wants to put in language barring him from playing baseball. It would make sense as to why him suddenly playing both sports is in the news.

I have nothing to base this on, but just spitballing. Seems strange they've yet to nail down an agreement.

DanoooME · Apr 20, 2015

Wilson was #1 in merch sales again this year.

Not exactly huge news, but with this dead spot in the offseason, it sure beats re-hashing that fucking play again.

ThePrideofShiner · Apr 22, 2015

Five primetime games, which is apparently the most in franchise history. ~~Only one is~~ Two are at home, though, which kind of sucks.

The Week 2 game at Green Bay could conceivably decide home field advantage in the NFC.

I also don't like two road games to open the season, but then I remember the Seahawks traded for Jimmy Graham.

Edit: I can't count.

mpx42 · Apr 22, 2015

Two primetime games at home: Lions on MNF and Cardinals on SNF.

MentalDisabldLst · Apr 22, 2015

Shouldn't this thread title be "Unger? I 'ardly knew her!"

bradmahn · Apr 22, 2015

Why is Russell dressed like my girlfriend's dad?

Stevie1der · Apr 22, 2015

Russell wants you to know that you should probably hold off another minute before you flip those steaks to really lock in the flavor.

DanoooME · Apr 22, 2015

ThePrideofShiner said:
Five primetime games, which is apparently the most in franchise history. Only one is at home, though, which kind of sucks.

The Week 2 game at Green Bay could conceivably decide home field advantage in the NFC.

I also don't like two road games to open the season, but then I remember the Seahawks traded for Jimmy Graham.

The good thing is the one East Coast road game (at Baltimore) is a night game, so they do escape that problem. The only other 1 PM ET game I see that could be an issue is at Cincinnati. So I think they dodged a bullet there.

I also like that 5 or the first 8 are on the road, giving them 5 of 8 at home down the stretch. And their bye is in week 9 instead of the shitty week 4 bye they had last year.

slamminsammya · Apr 22, 2015

Stevie1der said:
Russell wants you to know that you should probably hold off another minute before you flip those steaks to really lock in the flavor.

Gold.

Al Zarilla · Apr 22, 2015

bradmahn said:
Why is Russell dressed like my girlfriend's dad?

Mauidano did say in another thread that a bunch of Seahawks were in Hawaii for a bonding thing.

DanoooME · Apr 30, 2015

Latest rumor is Bruce Irvin to Atlanta because the Hawks don't want to pick up his 5th year option at $7.8M which makes a hell of a lot of sense for a guy who they really don't know what to do with. With Avril entrenched as LEO, Irvin is kind of miscast as a SLB. And they could use the money to extend Bobby Wagner. I'm sure they can find a plug and play guy to play 1st and 2nd down for peanuts compared to that price.

I wouldn't mind getting a 3 or 4 for him, but it's probably not going to be that good. Although the Eagles are allegedly holding out for a 2 for Mychal Kendricks, also in his last year of his contract.

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