AZ would have to lose at least 3 of 5, with Seattle going 5-0, for that last game to be for the division. Unlikely.
2015 Seahawks: Our offense doesnt need Lynch, Graham or Rawls
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This is getting off topic, but that's wrong.
AZ has the 3rd ranked defense by YPG and on offense they are 10th in rushing.
Last year they were down to their 3rd string QB before things went in the toilet. Drew Stanton could manage a win or two against the likes of 49ers, Rams, and Eagles.
Rawls is doing just fine as the fill-in, so I am okay with this. Let's hope he gets back after that 4 weeks ready to go and we can close the season in Beast Mode.
Do you think Graham returns? It would seem to make more sense to cut him and use the $ saved (no dead money or cap hit) to make 4-5 others happy.
I think it was a mistake to bring in a highly-paid guy to that locker room, given what Schneider/Carroll knew about their roster. It might have made sense on (paper) the field - but didn't really work out - but it never made sense off the field. Removing your best interior lineman, a first round pick and giving a good chunk of the cap to an "outsider" who hadn't helped this team get to consecutive SBs was - in retrospect - a major mistake.
I don't think they can bring Graham back and make Chancellor, Bennett, etc. happy. But cutting him means they gave up a ton for not a lot of value in return.
Gonna be an interesting offseason in Seattle.
I think it was a mistake to bring in a highly-paid guy to that locker room, given what Schneider/Carroll knew about their roster. It might have made sense on (paper) the field - but didn't really work out - but it never made sense off the field. Removing your best interior lineman, a first round pick and giving a good chunk of the cap to an "outsider" who hadn't helped this team get to consecutive SBs was - in retrospect - a major mistake.
I don't think they can bring Graham back and make Chancellor, Bennett, etc. happy. But cutting him means they gave up a ton for not a lot of value in return.
Gonna be an interesting offseason in Seattle.
Given Graham hasnt really be a key component of the offense this year and he has no dead money if cut, I can easily see a scenario where Graham is not a Seahawk by the time training camp starts in 2016.
Rumors are starting to pickup that Lynch is done in Seattle too after this season given his physical breakdowns and the fact that Rawls is doing so well.
I think it will depend on the rehab schedule. If he's able to come back and be effective, I'm sure they'll be glad to have him back. If he has to miss the rest of this season and most of next season, they'll probably cut him.
I don't have an insider's view of the locker room, but from the team's response to his injury on the field yesterday, Graham seems like a really popular player on the team, so I don't see how his being an "outsider" has anything to do with him being a good or bad addition. Wilson was really starting to develop a rapport with him on the field, trusting him more and more every week. He is still #1 in targets in the passing game and yesterday proved the red zone issues they've had were more of a statistical fluke (they went 4 for 4 in the red zone this week after a horrendous start). Losing Unger hurt a little, only because he finally stayed healthy this year and there was no guarantee that was going to happen. Lewis has played a lot better than Nowak in the beginning of the year and I think the line is starting to jell around him.
A lot of what happens in the offseason will hinge on what happens with Marshawn Lynch and what happens to the salary cap. I don't know what they can do with making Bennett and Chancellor happy other than guarantee some more money because there's a delicate balance to their cap situation and they really don't have a lot of room to maneuver.
I don't have an insider's view of the locker room, but from the team's response to his injury on the field yesterday, Graham seems like a really popular player on the team, so I don't see how his being an "outsider" has anything to do with him being a good or bad addition. Wilson was really starting to develop a rapport with him on the field, trusting him more and more every week. He is still #1 in targets in the passing game and yesterday proved the red zone issues they've had were more of a statistical fluke (they went 4 for 4 in the red zone this week after a horrendous start). Losing Unger hurt a little, only because he finally stayed healthy this year and there was no guarantee that was going to happen. Lewis has played a lot better than Nowak in the beginning of the year and I think the line is starting to jell around him.
A lot of what happens in the offseason will hinge on what happens with Marshawn Lynch and what happens to the salary cap. I don't know what they can do with making Bennett and Chancellor happy other than guarantee some more money because there's a delicate balance to their cap situation and they really don't have a lot of room to maneuver.
My sister (a Portland, OR native and Seattle transplant) is apoplectic after Graham's injury and how putrid the defense has been. Wibi and Danoo, what can I tell her to reassure her that things are turning around? I need more than Wilson getting going.
Well, it's certainly no time to lose hope. All the offense does at this point is regress to last year's offense (or maybe it's a step forward). Although one big difference is Tyler Lockett instead of Ricardo Lockette. The defense can't possibly play any worse than they did last week, albeit against a good offense. 3 of their last 5 games should be wins (@ Balt, Cle, StL) so that leaves @ Min and @ Ariz as wild cards, but they could win both games.
It's not going to be easy, but they could still pull off a playoff berth. Their destiny is in their hands, and I think that's all they ask for.
You have an all time great coach, a top 5 quarterback and multiple all pro's on defense. You'll be fine. The Hawks will sneak into the playoffs as the #6 seed and be the team absolutely no one wants to play.
Agreed. They actually have a pretty easy path to the Wild Card. With @MIN, @BAL, CLE, and STL on the schedule plus an @ARI game in Week 17 where Arizona may be locked into the 2 seed and resting starters, I don't see this team finishing any worse than 9-7 and quite possibly 10-6. Even 9-7 looks very likely to be enough for the #6 seed given that they have the tiebreaker over the Bears, the Falcons are awful/imploding, the Bucs suck, the Giants have a tough schedule, etc.
Yeah, not sorry to see him go, especially after how much better the line has played since Lewis replaced him.
Great article up on fieldgulls.com about the Hawks cap situation
http://www.fieldgulls.com/seahawks-analysis/2015/12/3/9831988/seahawks-salary-cap-a-2015-mid-season-review
http://www.fieldgulls.com/seahawks-analysis/2015/12/3/9831988/seahawks-salary-cap-a-2015-mid-season-review
I thought this was a "Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote" reference, but then realized you might be referring to Ron, not Jorge Luis.
Disappointing to lose Richardson. I was hoping to see what they could do offensively with him and Lockett in the game at the same time.
Ask her if today works because everything was clicking today ...
Wilson's stats over the last three games
66/86 for 879 yds at 76.6%, 11 TD 0 INT, with a 146.6 passer rating
I'm still not sure. I can see GeorgeCostanza dedicating the rest of his life to living like DanoooME in hopes of gaining the life experience to independently write that post word-for-word.
She's pretty pumped. And what Hawks fan wouldn't be. Wilson is playing out of his nuts. I've always thought he was a bit overrated but he's been unreal. He's turned me not a believer.
This was clearly the best effort of the season. They dominated every aspect of the game. The defense held the Vikings to 125 total yards and 31 rushing yards. The offense totaled 433 yards, albeit against an injury depleted defense. The kick coverage teams were doing a great job until Patterson broke that kickoff return for a TD.
Their chances of making the playoff are looking better. They have back to back games against the dregs of the NFC North, at Baltimore and home against Cleveland. Then they have the Rams at home, where they do better against them than at St. Louis. They end the season at Arizona, which may not have any value to Arizona at that point depending on how everything shakes out. Not taking anything for granted, but they could run the table and end up at 11-5. It probably won't be enough to win the division, unless 2 of the Vikings, Eagles and Packers step up and take them down.
Their chances of making the playoff are looking better. They have back to back games against the dregs of the NFC North, at Baltimore and home against Cleveland. Then they have the Rams at home, where they do better against them than at St. Louis. They end the season at Arizona, which may not have any value to Arizona at that point depending on how everything shakes out. Not taking anything for granted, but they could run the table and end up at 11-5. It probably won't be enough to win the division, unless 2 of the Vikings, Eagles and Packers step up and take them down.
The best thing is they have fixed their major problems that have caused their issues:
1. Benching Cary Williams for DeShawn Shead. Took a lot of pressure off of the safeties to have to worry about being over the top for him and let them do what they normally do.
2. Replacing Drew Nowak at C with Patrick Lewis. Total key to the O-line gelling right now. Russell Wilson's stats for the last three games have been run here and elsewhere a lot, but here's two stats that aren't getting coverage. In the last 3 games, the line has only given up 6 sacks after giving up 33 in the first 9 games. And the running game has a total of 528 yards in the last 3 games (176 per) at almost a 5.0 YPC rate (107 carries). They now lead the league in rushing yards per game and are just a hair behind Pittsburgh in yards per carry.
The pass rush needs more consistency, which I think means a lot more Frank Clark going forward. They had a pure evil pass rush alignment yesterday of Clark and Bennett inside at DT and Avril and Irvin rushing from the outside and it looked devastating. Results show the same.
17 Plays together
1 rush for 6 yards
1 penalty on MN
7 pressures, 1 sack
Bridgewater was 6-14 for 33 yards and 1 INT.
1. Benching Cary Williams for DeShawn Shead. Took a lot of pressure off of the safeties to have to worry about being over the top for him and let them do what they normally do.
2. Replacing Drew Nowak at C with Patrick Lewis. Total key to the O-line gelling right now. Russell Wilson's stats for the last three games have been run here and elsewhere a lot, but here's two stats that aren't getting coverage. In the last 3 games, the line has only given up 6 sacks after giving up 33 in the first 9 games. And the running game has a total of 528 yards in the last 3 games (176 per) at almost a 5.0 YPC rate (107 carries). They now lead the league in rushing yards per game and are just a hair behind Pittsburgh in yards per carry.
The pass rush needs more consistency, which I think means a lot more Frank Clark going forward. They had a pure evil pass rush alignment yesterday of Clark and Bennett inside at DT and Avril and Irvin rushing from the outside and it looked devastating. Results show the same.
17 Plays together
1 rush for 6 yards
1 penalty on MN
7 pressures, 1 sack
Bridgewater was 6-14 for 33 yards and 1 INT.
There is an amazing post up on /r/Seahawks about what the playoff chances for Seattle are
https://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/3vytgo/a_ridiculously_exhaustive_guide_to_winning_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/3vytgo/a_ridiculously_exhaustive_guide_to_winning_the/
Darrell Bevell 'not available' for the BYU job.
http://www.seattlepi.com/sports/football/article/Seahawks-Darrell-Bevell-BYU-6687067.php#photo-8967455
http://www.seattlepi.com/sports/football/article/Seahawks-Darrell-Bevell-BYU-6687067.php#photo-8967455
Damn, perfect opportunity to move on. But the offense has been different. I need to spend some time in the game film and check it out.
Just call me Fat Fingers Freddy.
Why the Bevell hate? I get the issue with the last play of the Super Bowl, and the Percy Harvin and Jimmy Graham experiments haven't exactly worked out, but Seattle has been 5th, 5th, 7th and 4th in Offensive DVOA the last four years, despite having what's generally been considered a below-average line and a mediocre receiving corps.
And a QB who apparently needs very simple route concepts/reads. Maybe that's Bevell holding him back. Or maybe that's Bevell maximizing his talents and hiding his deficiencies.
Most of that DVOA is through the rushing game and the line is very good at run blocking and among the worst at pass blocking. Though I have to admit they have gotten a lot better throughout this season in both areas. Patrick Lewis, the new center, has been a key to that.
Bevell's play calling leaves a lot to be desired. He gets predictable in his calls. It;s gotten a lot better since the bye when he had a chance to completely revamp the entire offensive philosophy. I just don't have any faith in him long term to make the best calls possible; the Super Bowl is just one example.
I really would love to see a change just to see how much better it could be. Imagine what Norv Turner could do with these weapons instead of the ones he has in Minnesota. Norv is a really shitty head coach, but he's a great OC.
Hawks win at Baltimore 35-6, but it was costly as they lost RB Thomas Rawls for the year with a broken ankle. With Marshawn still out for at least a couple more weeks (I'm expecting the rest of the regular season, but I have no inside knowledge of that), that leaves the less-than-stellar DuJuan Harris and Fred Jackson at RB. They could play Jackson more on early downs, they could try and use FB Derrick Coleman a little at RB or they can try and sign Christine Michael off of Washington's practice squad (not very likely) or re-sign Bryce Brown for the 3rd time this season. I'd be willing to give up something to get Rod Smith from Dallas, but he's on their active roster as their #3.
A broken ankle must hurt a mother fucker. Spraining it is painful enough I can't imagine the feeling of breaking it. Such a shame too, he was really acquitting himself quite nicely in place of Marshawn
Seattle has the Browns and Rams at home, then @ARI Week 17 in a game that will likely be meaningless for the Cards. So long as Lynch is OK for the playoffs, they'll survive losing Rawls.
Sherman was tackled by his hair on that interception
http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/seahawks-richard-sherman-picks-off-jimmy-clausen-about-nfl-seattle-seahawks-at-baltimore-ravens-week-14-on-nfl-live-14b_wi
http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/seahawks-richard-sherman-picks-off-jimmy-clausen-about-nfl-seattle-seahawks-at-baltimore-ravens-week-14-on-nfl-live-14b_wi