2015 Seahawks: Our offense doesnt need Lynch, Graham or Rawls

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My new idea is using BJ Daniels at RB maybe a dozen plays per game. He can do everything else; I'm sure he can handle some snaps at RB. Maybe they can work in a halfback pass play too.
 

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Wilson should get some MVP consideration. His numbers just jump off the page: Superior to Brady and Cam, other than in total TDs and QB winz. He kept them afloat earlier in the season when the o-line was the worst in the league, and now he's just dominating. But I'm sure their record will keep him out of it.
 

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Wilson should get some MVP consideration. His numbers just jump off the page: Superior to Brady and Cam, other than in total TDs and QB winz. He kept them afloat earlier in the season when the o-line was the worst in the league, and now he's just dominating. But I'm sure their record will keep him out of it.
To be fair, look at his year, his numbers were totally pedestrian until 4 weeks ago. If he plays the next few weeks like the last few and win out, i'm sure he will get some votes, which he should. Until the 49ers game, he had a 10/7 TD/INT ratio over 10 weeks of the season.

He's playing unreal now but he needs to finish out the year this way.
 

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Interesting roster shuffle this week:

IN - RB Bryce Brown, TE Chase Coffman, LB Sean Coyle (from IR-DTR)
OUT - RB DuJuan Harris, UT BJ Daniels, S Akeem Davis
TO IR - RB Thomas Rawls

So Brown replaces Harris and they are going to go with 3 RBs and 1 FB instead of the 3 and 2 they had. Derrick Coleman moves from FB to RB and probably has a pretty good chance of starting. I was hoping Daniels would get a shot at some carries, but I guess not.

They still have a roster spot open for someone, we'll see who fills it.

Coffman was brought in because TE Luke Willson is nursing a rib injury and may not be available this week.
 

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I was just watching the Baltimore game on Game Pass and saw the Thomas Rawls injury. He's laying on his right hip almost on his back and his toe pointing down on the turf. I won't post the screen shot, as it's disgusting.
 

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Michael looked really good yesterday, running hard. Maybe he's finally "got it".

Seahawks win 30-13 and clinch a playoff berth. Doug Baldwin with 2 more TD catches giving him 10 in the last 4 games and a tied-for-the-league lead of 13. Russell Wilson threw 3 more TD passes with no interceptions giving him 5 straight games like that, which had never been done before in NFL history. Wilson now leads the league in passer rating at 111.4. He's playing at an insane level right now and is getting a ton of help from his O-line. The team had 182 yards rushing on 5.1 YPC with a bunch of riff-raff and Russell Wilson running the ball.

With Arizona's win, the Cardinals clinch the division, so Seattle is looking at either the #5 or #6 seed. The Hawks hold the H2H tiebreaker over Minnesota, so this coming week if the Hawks win at home against the Rams and Minnesota loses, they clinch the #5 seed and a trip to the NFC East winner. I'm hoping it's not Washington since they seem to be getting their act together a little and their field is a disaster. Although the Hawks are on such a roll right now, they might be able to beat anyone.

One step at a time and that is beating the Rams on Sunday.

Edit: And, oh, that issue with the Seahawks struggling on 3rd down, it's been resolved. They went 9 for 12 on 3rd down (includes a kneeldown at the end) yesterday and are now 3rd in the league at a 45.9% conversion rate.
 
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In what world is any Seahawks concerned that the Snyders are getting their act together? You will annihilate the football team from Washington, D.C. There are few NFL teams I think could beat Seattle the way they're currently playing, certainly none of those reside in the NFC Least.
 

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In what world is any Seahawks concerned that the Snyders are getting their act together? You will annihilate the football team from Washington, D.C. There are few NFL teams I think could beat Seattle the way they're currently playing, certainly none of those reside in the NFC Least.
I'm more concerned about Russell tearing an ACL on the field, but I also don't want to see the Hawks take them too lightly either.
 
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Ah, gotcha. Injury wise, I'm with you all the way. OTOH, I'm trying to fathom just how lightly the Seahawks would have to take the Skins to actually wind up losing to them. I'm stumped.
 

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The pass rush needs more consistency, which I think means a lot more Frank Clark going forward. They had a pure evil pass rush alignment yesterday of Clark and Bennett inside at DT and Avril and Irvin rushing from the outside and it looked devastating. Results show the same.

17 Plays together
1 rush for 6 yards
1 penalty on MN
7 pressures, 1 sack
Bridgewater was 6-14 for 33 yards and 1 INT.
Updating this for the last two games:

vs. Baltimore
19 Plays together
1 rush for 0 yards and a fumble
8 pressures, 1 sack
5 times they blitzed either 1 or 2 LBs
Clausen was 11-17 for 121 yards overall
Against blitzes he was 3-5 for 54 yards
Against 4 man he was 8-12 for 67 yards

vs. Cleveland
23 Plays together
5 rushes for 19 yards (Manziel's 1 scramble for 12 yards included here)
10 pressures, 1 sack
1 blitz with both LBs
Manziel went 11-17 for 96 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT (the TD was 1 of 3 times he was able to escape the pocket)
Against blitzes he was 0-1
 

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Michael looked really good yesterday, running hard. Maybe he's finally "got it".
I'm not holding my breath. There was a play in the first half (I believe it was his first run of the game) where Michael ran left and ended up running out of bounds with the defender trying to rip the ball out of his right hand because he wouldnt switch the ball to his left hand even though he had time to.
 

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So do we hope for Minnesota to beat Green Bay next week?
I would rather we play Minnesota / Green Bay instead of Washington. Mainly for travel reasons.
I think I would rather face Carolina instead of Arizona if we get past the Wildcard game.
 

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The only way the Hawks go to Washington at this point is Hawks win @Arizona and Pack beats Vikes. I would rather go anywhere besides Washington just to avoid the shitty field there. The last thing the team needs is a Russell Wilson knee injury on a scramble because Snyder is too fucking cheap/incompetent to put down a decent field. Asshole.

Yesterday's game was an aggravating mess. Penalties, bad snaps, turnovers, horrible fumble luck on the Rams' last TD drive. It was all there. And they still only lost by 6. Most teams get blown out by 20+ in those situations. Seahawks still haven't lost by more than 10 in over 4 years.

I'd just like to see a winning effort in Arizona to give the team a dose of confidence that if they win their WC game, that they can go in and beat Arizona again. Give the Cardinals some doubts. They can pretty much beat anyone right now if they don't beat themselves.
 

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The only way the Hawks go to Washington at this point is Hawks win @Arizona and Pack beats Vikes. I would rather go anywhere besides Washington just to avoid the shitty field there. The last thing the team needs is a Russell Wilson knee injury on a scramble because Snyder is too fucking cheap/incompetent to put down a decent field. Asshole.

Yesterday's game was an aggravating mess. Penalties, bad snaps, turnovers, horrible fumble luck on the Rams' last TD drive. It was all there. And they still only lost by 6. Most teams get blown out by 20+ in those situations. Seahawks still haven't lost by more than 10 in over 4 years.

I'd just like to see a winning effort in Arizona to give the team a dose of confidence that if they win their WC game, that they can go in and beat Arizona again. Give the Cardinals some doubts. They can pretty much beat anyone right now if they don't beat themselves.
The four scenarios possible are
MIN wins, SEA wins = SEA v. MIN
MIN wins, SEA loses = SEA v. MIN
GB wins, SEA wins = SEA v. WAS
GB wins, SEA loses = SEA v. GB
 

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The four scenarios possible are
MIN wins, SEA wins = SEA v. MIN
MIN wins, SEA loses = SEA v. MIN
GB wins, SEA wins = SEA v. WAS
GB wins, SEA loses = SEA v. GB
I'd almost like the last option because (1) GB is playing the worst of the 3 teams right now and (2) Revenge for week 2. It's the hardest of the 3 stadiums to play in, so it's a real fence sitter for me. I think they can beat all 3 teams anyway, but we'll see.
 

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I would rather play Minnesota based on how dominant the Hawks were against them. Green bay ALWAYS gives us trouble. The weather is a push with Green Bay as forecasted temps around 28-30. The field and travel to Washington sucks even though it will be 15 degrees warmer.
 

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The new Fearsome Foursome didn't get many opportunities together, 8 plays in all

8 Plays together
1 rush for 10 yards
2 pressures, 0 sacks
3 times they blitzed either 1 or 2 LBs
Keenum was 3-7 for 23 yards overall
Against blitzes he was 1-3 for 5 yards
Against 4 man he was 2-4 for 18 yards
 

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After pasting the Cardinals 36-6 today, the playoff road goes through Minnesota, Carolina and whoever survives out of the other 3 teams.

I have no problem with that path. They've already won at Minnesota, they've won at Carolina the previous two seasons and I feel pretty good they can win at any of the other three teams.

Let's get the playoffs started!
 

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After pasting the Cardinals 36-6 today, the playoff road goes through Minnesota, Carolina and whoever survives out of the other 3 teams.

I have no problem with that path. They've already won at Minnesota, they've won at Carolina the previous two seasons and I feel pretty good they can win at any of the other three teams.

Let's get the playoffs started!
They are certainly playing well....and I would probably bet on them over any other NFC team right now..... But winning on the road 3 times in a row is difficult. ~Captain Obvious.
 

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Welp, I'm finally over my shakes after that insane ending.

Flush this one down the toilet and get ready for Carolina and normal weather conditions.

I'm curious if Lynch even tries to go next week. Michael looked perfectly fine today.
 

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Seattle has been insanely lucky their last three playoff games and benefited from poor strategy on the other side.

In the Championship last year the Packers were very conservative which gave Seattle the chance to come back, and it still took an onside kick recovery.

In the Super Bowl they had Matthews with the only good game of his life and of course the Kearse catch (and a small bit of karma went the other way :) )

This game had the broken play for a TD (sure, some skill involved there as Wilson makes those kinds of plays all the time, but...) and obviously the FG. Plus MIN played it very conservative before the FG -- I would have taken one shot at a pass for a first down / TD given the conditions, plus to run the clock all the way down to zero before trying the kick. (With normal weather, that's a situation where Seattle should probably let them score a TD).

Not news to anyone, and they get tons of credit for staying in every game. Just amazing to me. I agree going forward this game doesn't tell us much about what to expect.
 

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So, I get the general point, and I'm a Pats fan, so I agree that the Kearse catch was some silliness.

But to say the Seahawks were lucky in the Super Bowl is not really fair to either team. They identified that Matthews matchup. And indeed, if anything I would say the Patriots were "lucky" that the Seahawks were as injured as they were -- Earl Thomas had a separated shoulder and a torn labrum, Chancellor had a knee injury, Jeremy Lane broke his arm on that 1st quarter INT and was replaced by walking 5 yard cushion Tharold Simon (who allowed 2 of our TDs), and after Cliff Avril's concussion at the end of the 3rd quarter it seemed like our offense finally had time to find open receivers.

Anyway, sorry for the detour. And congrats to the Seahawks on one of the most bizarre playoff wins I've ever seen. The "fumbled snap desperation heave" play worked to perfection.
 

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To Danoo and wibi, how much, if at all, does Graham injury factor in to the resurgence of the Seattle offense (last 2 games not withstanding)?
Imagine how good the offense would be with the new focus on passing and Graham roaming the middle of the field. It's going to be interesting to see how Seattle generates offense with Norman shadowing Baldwin. Lockett will need to have a big game...and he might.
 

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To @DanoooME and @wibi , how much, if at all, does Graham injury factor in to the resurgence of the Seattle offense (last 2 games not withstanding)?
This is a hard question for me to give you a solid answer on. Personally (without watching any film other than the live game feeds) is that Seattle's offense would have shown this resurgence even with Graham being around since I believe this resurgence has been thanks to two major factors.

First, Wilson has had much better protection from the OL since Seattle changed from Drew Nowak to Patrick Lewis at the Center position. That change seemed to make the protection reads finally work and Wilson had much more time in the pocket then they did prior.

Second, the offense hasnt been turning the ball over since the bye week. Pre-bye week Seattle's offense had turned the ball over 10 times in 8 games. In the 8 games post-bye they have only turned the ball over 6 times, with 3 of those being in the WK16 loss to STL. If you keep the ball you are going to, on average, score more points.