2015 Eagles: What the hell is going on here?!

johnmd20 · Dec 14, 2015

That was an illegal pick. The fact that it wasn't called shouldn't matter. I also think that pick was more blatant than the INT play, which isn't totally conclusive, at least from that Twitter video.

Either way, Rex lost, so it was a good day.

EricFeczko · Dec 14, 2015

One should keep in mind that bad, or inaccurate, "reffing" can lead to unbalanced calls in many games. In aggregate, the calls will eventually even out. Therefore, even if the balance of calls are one-sided, such evidence isn't sufficient to suggest that the refs were biased.

Hoodie Sleeves · Dec 14, 2015

"maybe" is right I think (on the pick play) - it's tough to tell in a GIF, but it looks like the catch and pick happen at the same time - which would just make It a particularly brutal block.

Bosoxen · Dec 14, 2015

I thought both calls illustrated were poor while watching the game on Red Zone. Both not overturning the interception and not calling the OPI. I agree with LondonSox that missing the call, despite replay, is a little bit worse.

EricFeczko said:
One should keep in mind that bad, or inaccurate, "reffing" can lead to unbalanced calls in many games. In aggregate, the calls will eventually even out. Therefore, even if the balance of calls are one-sided, such evidence isn't sufficient to suggest that the refs were biased.

Unless it's happening to the Patriots, right? Then it's obviously a league conspiracy.

Super Nomario · Dec 14, 2015

Bosoxen said:
I thought both calls illustrated were poor while watching the game on Red Zone. Both not overturning the interception and not calling the OPI. I agree with LondonSox that missing the call, despite, replay is a little bit worse.

Unless it's happening to the Patriots, right? Then it's obviously a league conspiracy.

League conspiracy? What are you, naive? The conspiracy goes all the way to the top: Obama, Bush, Trump, the Masons and Illuminati, and the rest of the Lizard People. NO ONE wants the Patriots to win.

Byrdbrain · Dec 14, 2015

Hoodie Sleeves said:
"maybe" is right I think (on the pick play) - it's tough to tell in a GIF, but it looks like the catch and pick happen at the same time - which would just make It a particularly brutal block.

Yeah Pereira said it was a legal play since the hit was simultaneous to the catch.

Bosoxen · Dec 14, 2015

Super Nomario said:
League conspiracy? What are you, naive? The conspiracy goes all the way to the top: Obama, Bush, Trump, the Masons and Illuminati, and the rest of the Lizard People. NO ONE wants the Patriots to win.

In my defense, I quit clicking on Pats-centric threads a while ago. I'm not up-to-date on the conspiracy du jour.

EricFeczko · Dec 14, 2015

Bosoxen said:
I thought both calls illustrated were poor while watching the game on Red Zone. Both not overturning the interception and not calling the OPI. I agree with LondonSox that missing the call, despite replay, is a little bit worse.

Unless it's happening to the Patriots, right? Then it's obviously a league conspiracy.

As a lifelong pats fan, growing up watching games with my dad and older sister, I can tell you that the first reason the pats lose is because they suck. [emoji4]
The second reason is because I forgot to wear the lucky t-shirt my sister got for me. I still get blamed for 2007 [emoji16]

On a more serious note, I will post a small simulation study on this topic when I'm not busy trying to figure out my life.

johnmd20 · Dec 14, 2015

Bosoxen said:
In my defense, I quit clicking on Pats-centric threads a while ago. I'm not up-to-date on the conspiracy du jour.

You don't have a defense. You're a victimized Cowboy's fan who is somehow surprised the focus on a Boston message board would be on the Boston sports team.

edit to add: you bitch in Dallas threads that there is too much Patriots talk. And, yet, in the Philly thread you muck it up with Patriots talk. How is this any different?

Bosoxen · Dec 14, 2015

johnmd20 said:
You don't have a defense. You're a victimized Cowboy's fan who is somehow surprised the focus on a Boston message board would be on the Boston sports team.

edit to add: you bitch in Dallas threads that there is too much Patriots talk. And, yet, in the Philly thread you muck it up with Patriots talk. How is this any different?

Because I was making a joke? Which apparently only you seemed to miss.

johnmd20 · Dec 14, 2015

Bosoxen said:
Because I was making a joke? Which apparently only you seemed to miss.

Does it matter, though? It's the Philly thread and you're mucking it up with Patriots jokes, after complaining Patriot talk shouldn't happen in the Dallas thread. You can't have it both ways.

Super Nomario · Dec 17, 2015

On the Ross Tucker Football Podcast today, Greg Cosell was killing Bradford and the Philly offense, saying that the Bills played with zero deep safeties on 21 of 40 Eagles pass plays, basically daring the Eagles to throw deep. Philly apparently only did four times, though one was the long Agholor TD. Chip's system doesn't let the QBs audible so they had trouble taking advantage, plus Bradford is pretty checkdown-tastic.

Oil Can Dan · Dec 17, 2015

Bradford may indeed be checkdown-tastic but I think the problem lies more with Chip and his offense than Bradford. I have a hard time telling whether it's a matter of personnel or system, but they just don't go downfield and they barely target WRs at all. The offense is painful to watch and I hate it. I'm inclined to blame Chip the coach (for shitty game planning/play calling) or Chip the GM (for having terrible WRs and a paper thin OL) more so than Bradford, who looks a little above average to me.

I thought the Eagles would be innovative on offense with Chips' arrival, but once the newness of the fast-break offense wore they're left with a vanilla offense that most defenses seem to have no problem shutting down.

EricFeczko · Dec 17, 2015

Oil Can Dan said:
Bradford may indeed be checkdown-tastic but I think the problem lies more with Chip and his offense than Bradford. I have a hard time telling whether it's a matter of personnel or system, but they just don't go downfield and they barely target WRs at all. The offense is painful to watch and I hate it. I'm inclined to blame Chip the coach (for shitty game planning/play calling) or Chip the GM (for having terrible WRs and a paper thin OL) more so than Bradford, who looks a little above average to me.

I thought the Eagles would be innovative on offense with Chips' arrival, but once the newness of the fast-break offense wore they're left with a vanilla offense that most defenses seem to have no problem shutting down.

I don't follow this, what do you perceive regarding Bradford that leads you to conclude "he looks a little above average"?

Oil Can Dan · Dec 17, 2015

I think he's played well of late. I'm seeing a lot of improvement from earlier in the season. I think he's made some real nice throws. He's handling the pressure much, much better now than he was earlier. He will make an occasional mistake, like the sack at the two minute warning vs Buffalo, but all in all he's passed my eye test. I see a guy coming off his second major injury into a new system devoid of much talent at OL and WR. He played like shit for the first quarter or so of the season for sure but for his last four or so games he's looked good to me. Not Tom Brady level but a little better than average all things considered.

Without studying the all-22 I think he's above average lately and really I think that's selling him a little bit short. Unless he's leaving yards all over the field and not hitting open WRs that aren't visible via the regular broadcast. And I'm not saying he's got it figured out or that he'll continue to keep getting better but I'm interested to see how things progress. AZ will be a good test Sunday night.

Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt · Dec 27, 2015

And you didn't even get to ruin the patriots perfect season! Someone beat you to it! (By which I mean some two or three or six beat you to it. Their names are Harper and Corrente and, I guess, Osweiler.)

crystalline · Dec 27, 2015

Eagles d line got no pressure yesterday even when blitzing.
The first two Cousins TDs were on seam routes against a cover 2 zone, the weakness of that zone. Seems like Kelly is getting outcoached on defense too.

I wonder if Kelly wants to come back next year. He's got to feel a bit in over his head, and if he's really lost the respect of the locker room it may be tough to earn it back next year. Might be better to move somewhere new.

If Kelly really wants to prove he can be a success both in the pros and in college, he should probably take an OC position for a year or two and immerse himself in NFL schemes. If he mainly cares about money he'll go back to college.

I think Kelly is ambitious and confident enough that he may take a demotion for a few years to prep for another NFL HC stint.
(Though he probably ends up back in college).

OCST · Dec 27, 2015

Fox analyst

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RedOctober3829 · Jan 31, 2016

Fake account. Who is that big of a loser to do that?

RedOctober3829 · Feb 8, 2016

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