2015 coaching carousel

[JCizzle]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/554771473014210560
 
The #49ershttps://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash are expected to meet with and make a final push for #Broncos OC Adam Gase tonight, source said.
 
Looks like the dominoes are starting to fall.

 

[Was (Not Wasdin)]

According to ESPN, Fox will interview for the Bears job.
 
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/12159337/john-fox-interview-chicago-bears-vacancy
 
Marrone's name has not been heard much in connection with any of the vacancies. He may be the candidate who gets left out in the cold when all of the hiring is done.  Of course, collecting $4MM for doing zip isnt a bad consolation prize, and there figure to be a number of openings next year (barring significant improvement by teams like Miami, Tampa, etc.)

 

[RedOctober3829]

Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlington 51s52 seconds ago
Sources: Adam Gase currently meeting with 49ers officials in Denver. Expected to be marathon. Elway plans to meet w/ Gase when it concludes.
 

https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/555034200517009408

 

[DJnVa]

That would be an interesting direction. There's some stories that Gase was not enamored with running the ball as much as they did down the stretch and then, for some reason, still plugged away with Manning on Sunday, even though the game was never really out of reach.
 
In SF, the QB would likely be best suited to run a completely different type of offense--Kaep's not the QB making the Manning-like quick reads and staying in the pocket.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

That would be an interesting direction. There's some stories that Gase was not enamored with running the ball as much as they did down the stretch and then, for some reason, still plugged away with Manning on Sunday, even though the game was never really out of reach.
 
In SF, the QB would likely be best suited to run a completely different type of offense--Kaep's not the QB making the Manning-like quick reads and staying in the pocket.

Gase was also the QB coach for Tebow. For better or for worse.

 

[JohnnyK]

I don't really understand the Gase-love; by most accounts Peyton is his own OC most of the time, so what has Gase really shown? Is the DEN offense really his?

 

[tims4wins]

I don't really understand the Gase-love; by most accounts Peyton is his own OC most of the time, so what has Gase really shown? Is the DEN offense really his?

 
Plus he has only been in the role for 2 years, it was Mike McCoy before that.
 
Honestly giving Gase a HC position is akin to giving Mangini one back in 2006, when he rode the coat tails of RAC's defense.

 

[Super Nomario]

I don't really understand the Gase-love; by most accounts Peyton is his own OC most of the time, so what has Gase really shown? Is the DEN offense really his?

I think this is overblown and based on a simplification of what an OC does based on what the fans see (calling plays on game day), which is really a small part of the job. Peyton might audible to a different play to beat a Cover 2 look or something, but he's not designing plays, running drills in practice, creating the game plan, correcting fine points of blocking technique, etc. - everything the OC does the other six days a week. What the coaching staff does on game day pales in comparison to what they do the rest of the time to get ready for game day, and as far as I know Manning isn't much more involved in that department than other quarterbacks.
 
As for what Gase brings in particular, MMQB recently had a great article with Mike Martz breaking down some Gase-designed plays. He seems to have a strong ability to identify how defenses react to different looks and how to exploit them. Whether that will make him a good head coach or not, I have no idea.

 

[soxfan121]

Terrific post, SN. I think that the reason Manning's OCs are so well regarded is because Manning's legendary work ethic requires a guy who can keep up with him. It's an endorsement, not a blessing. If you can survive - and get Manning to incorporate your shit - then you're a good coach. 

 

[DJnVa]

Sure, but the test comes in seeing if a lesser QB can pull that off as well.

 

[Greg29fan]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/555098111152906240

 

[Bosoxen]

Never thought I'd see the day when I would be happy about that.

 

[Dogman]

Sure, but the test comes in seeing if a lesser QB can pull that off as well.

 
 
I disagree.  I think the test comes when Gase can develop a gameplan around a lessor QB and have success. 

 

[Tony C]

According to ESPN, Fox will interview for the Bears job.
 
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/12159337/john-fox-interview-chicago-bears-vacancy
 
Marrone's name has not been heard much in connection with any of the vacancies. He may be the candidate who gets left out in the cold when all of the hiring is done.  Of course, collecting $4MM for doing zip isnt a bad consolation prize, and there figure to be a number of openings next year (barring significant improvement by teams like Miami, Tampa, etc.)

 
 
Clearly he ditched the Bills due to indications that he'd be the Jets' frontrunner. If that doesn't come through due to bad media reaction....I don't see why anyone would choose him: nothing extraordinary (though seemingly perfectly competent) as a coach and an a-hole to deal with who screwed over his previous organization and left with bad blood. Being an ass isn't a problem when you're great -- when you're just another guy, though, he wants the hassle?
 

 
 
I disagree.  I think the test comes when Gase can develop a gameplan around a lessor QB and have success. 

 
I hate to mention this...but Tebow?

 

[Shelterdog]

I think this is overblown and based on a simplification of what an OC does based on what the fans see (calling plays on game day), which is really a small part of the job. Peyton might audible to a different play to beat a Cover 2 look or something, but he's not designing plays, running drills in practice, creating the game plan, correcting fine points of blocking technique, etc. - everything the OC does the other six days a week. What the coaching staff does on game day pales in comparison to what they do the rest of the time to get ready for game day, and as far as I know Manning isn't much more involved in that department than other quarterbacks.
 
As for what Gase brings in particular, MMQB recently had a great article with Mike Martz breaking down some Gase-designed plays. He seems to have a strong ability to identify how defenses react to different looks and how to exploit them. Whether that will make him a good head coach or not, I have no idea.

I mostly agree with this with the caveat that of you are Peyton's OC you are apparently going to have to use the same playbook and verbiage Peyton has used his hole career.

 

[OCST]

I mostly agree with this with the caveat that of you are Peyton's OC you are apparently going to have to use the same playbook and verbiage Peyton has used his hole career.

 

 
Sigmund approves.

 

[Tony C]

I know I'm in the minority, but I didn't buy this at the time and I still don't buy it now. He obviously negotiated the opt out in his contract because he was concerned over who the new owner would be. The new owner came in, appears to be a jackass and he opted out. He had no assurances he would be renewed after next year when his contract was up (no matter how well they played this year) and he had $4M coming to him either way. So why wouldn't he opt out and get two shots at vacancies rather than one? I'm just not buying the "Jets whispered in his ear" slant. I don't think there's anything to suggest it's more likely than the simpler version. Nor do I see that he screwed over his organization or necessarily buy the leaks that he was an ass to work with.

 
It all becomes a he said/she said thing on all this after a while, though the number of people saying he's an ass sure indicates a "where there's smoke there's fire" element. I will just say that supposedly he was negotiating for an extension that the Bills had offered: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12104824/doug-marrone-opts-contract-buffalo-bills  Now, again, maybe it wasn't for the right dollars or what have you, but it does seem he didn't have to worry about being renewed or not after next year.
 
In any case, if he ends up not getting a job this year, $4 million to sit at home ain't bad.

 

[Dogman]

 
 
Clearly he ditched the Bills due to indications that he'd be the Jets' frontrunner. If that doesn't come through due to bad media reaction....I don't see why anyone would choose him: nothing extraordinary (though seemingly perfectly competent) as a coach and an a-hole to deal with who screwed over his previous organization and left with bad blood. Being an ass isn't a problem when you're great -- when you're just another guy, though, he wants the hassle?
 
 
I hate to mention this...but Tebow?

 
 
He wasn't OC with Tebow. He was promoted to OC in Jan 2013.  He was Tebow's QB coach though. 

 

[Tony C]

Ah! Right...thx

 

[soxfan121]

 
 
I disagree.  I think the test comes when Gase can develop a gameplan around a lessor QB and have success. 

 
Right. Gase is clerking for a Supreme Court justice. When he hangs out his own shingle, we'll find out if he's actually good at arguing cases. He can certainly handle the paperwork.

 

[jsinger121]

 

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  15m15 minutes ago
Raiders closing in on naming Jack Del Rio as their next head coach, which is expected to happen as early as today, per @mortreport.
 

 

[soxfan121]

C'mon Raiders. That shit is weak.

 

[jsinger121]

C'mon Raiders. That shit is weak.

 
Some of these teams just don't learn.

 

[soxfan121]

Reggie McKenzie must have a win-now mandate and couldn't get Fox or Ryan or Smith to interview. Because otherwise, this makes no sense. JDR is such a bad hire.

 

[DJnVa]

Reggie McKenzie must have a win-now mandate and couldn't get Fox or Ryan or Smith to interview. Because otherwise, this makes no sense. JDR is such a bad hire.

 
Man, he was in Jax for a long time as HC. It's not like someone giving a young coach a second shot, figuring he may have learned some things and matured a bit. JDR is pretty much a finished product.

 

[tims4wins]

 
Some of these teams just don't learn.

 O RLY?
 

 

[Shelterdog]

 
Man, he was in Jax for a long time as HC. It's not like someone giving a young coach a second shot, figuring he may have learned some things and matured a bit. JDR is pretty much a finished product.

And his name literally means masturbate into a river.

 

[mauf]

I thought JDR had a pretty good run in Jacksonville considering the talent he had, especially at QB.

 

[wibi]

 


ProFootballTalkVerified account ‏@ProFootballTalk

While on air with @NateLundy in Denver, he reported Adam Gase has agreed to become the 49ers head coach.



7:01 AM - 14 Jan 2015

 

[soxfan121]

I thought JDR had a pretty good run in Jacksonville considering the talent he had, especially at QB.

 
Brunell, Leftwich & Garrard were adequate or better for his entire tenure. Taylor, Smith, Stroud and Mathis were all excellent players, and the defensive talent, overall, was certainly not "untalented". 
 
I don't see it. 

 

[Bosoxen]

And his name literally means masturbate into a river.

 
I presume you mean in Spanish. If you do, no, it doesn't mean that. "Del" is a possessive term, which would translate his name to "Jack of the river".

 

[Shelterdog]

 
I presume you mean in Spanish. If you do, no, it doesn't mean that. "Del" is a possessive term, which would translate his name to "Jack of the river".

 
It's a joke.

 

[steveluck7]

Smoke, fire?
SB Nation reported that Kubiak was to be named Denver's head coach
This headline is still on the yahoo home page but the link now gives you a 404 error
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/14/7545695/gary-kubiak-denver-broncos-head-coach

 

[Bosoxen]

 
It's a joke.

I can forgive a weak joke, but not the butchering of my native tongue. Get it right, yo!

 

[Shelterdog]

I can forgive a weak joke, but not the butchering of my native tongue. Get it right, yo!

 
It's homage to the brilliant but demented pftcommenter, who first butchered your native tongue.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Rex: "is this thing on? Because it's about to be on"

 

[jsinger121]

Rex: "is this thing on? Because it's about to be on"

 
Rex is spewing the same shit as he did in NY. He doesn't learn.

 

[Shelterdog]

Rex: "is this thing on? Because it's about to be on"

 
God four more years of this guy.  SJH might have an aneurism.

 

[Gunfighter 09]

JDR is reportedly looking to get Trestman for a second go around as Raiders OC and his old DC Mike Smith for the defense. Not sure which one would be the AHC. It all makes sense to me.

After the Harbaugh quest failed and Rex & Bowles apparently declined to interview, this is probably as good as they were going to get. I preferred Pep or Bevell, but I can live with this. I wanted a credible coach and McKenzie to be kept on, with the staff mentioned above, I have to imagine the Raiders will look much better prepared this year and I am very happy not to be stuck with Sparano.


http://nfltraderumors.co/report-jack-del-rio-recruiting-marc-trestman-to-be-raiders-oc/

 

[RedOctober3829]

"I know it's been 15 years since the playoffs, but get ready. It's coming"

"Are we going to be ground and pound? Yeah."

"I know we'll lead the team in defense."

"put everything you want on the bulletin board. Start preparing now."

 

[Tony C]

What a pure ass. "4th on defense? That's frankly disappointing. I know we'll be #1" (or words to that effect). How'd the guarantee that the Jets would be a top 5 defense this season go? Why people buy into the carnival barker's bs routine is beyond me.

 

[DJnVa]

Well, it all worked so well last time.

 

[Tony C]

JDR is reportedly looking to get Trestman for a second go around as Raiders OC and his old DC Mike Smith for the defense. Not sure which one would be the AHC. It all makes sense to me.

After the Harbaugh quest failed and Rex & Bowles apparently declined to interview, this is probably as good as they were going to get. I preferred Pep or Bevell, but I can live with this. I wanted a credible coach and McKenzie to be kept on, with the staff mentioned above, I have to imagine the Raiders will look much better prepared this year and I am very happy not to be stuck with Sparano.


http://nfltraderumors.co/report-jack-del-rio-recruiting-marc-trestman-to-be-raiders-oc/

 
Sounds like a really solid combo, and far better than the Raiders have had and really could expect to get. Del Rio is a solid guy to be the CEO, Trestman seems like a born OC, and Smith should be a pro as DC. From the amateurs they've had to a team of pros -- that's good progress.

 

[RedOctober3829]

@KMart_LI: Rex: "We're going to build a bully and we're going to see if you wanna play us." #bills

 

[DJnVa]

Both of his top RBs are free agents, he has no QB. At least Ryan is a well-known builder of NFL offenses.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Pegula says Rex has done it before. Done what?

 

[luckiestman]

Just seeing those Rex quotes and knowing he isn't the Jets coach ......feels good man

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Pegula says Rex has done it before. Done what?

 
Back to back AFC championship games!    Because if there's one franchise that knows about being a 'runner up' in something....

 

[RedOctober3829]

"We're not afraid of the Patriots, but it doesn't mean they're going to win the AFC East next year".

"If they want to bring back Russ Francis and John Hannah to play guard, we'll beat them too."

 

[soxfan121]

Pegula says Rex has done it before. Done what?

 
It.