2014 PGA $ League: Results/Trash Talk Thread

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Teams:
 
[SIZE=10pt]Bob Montgomery’s Helmet Hat:  Tiger Woods, Bo Van Pelt, Robert Garrigus, Seung-Yul Noh, Nicolas Colsaerts, Bud Cauley, Padraig Harrington, Tommy Gainey[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Death Of The Bambino: Zach Johnson, Charles Howell III, Matt Jones, David Hearn, Jason Bohn, Brian Gay, Jerry Kelly, Greg Chalmers[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Lupe Whalewatch: Jordan Spieth, Jonas Blixt, Charley Hoffman, Jeff Overton, Patrick Cantlay, Will Mackenzie, James Driscoll, Will Wilcox[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Vegas Sox Fan: Matt Kuchar, Kevin Streelman, Brendon De Jonge, Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano, Kevin Stadler, Brendan Steele, Brian Davis, Sean O'Hair[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Cshea: Rory Mcilroy, Graeme Mcdowell, Ian Poulter, Luke Guthrie, Angel Cabrera, JB Holmes, Martin Flores, Peter Uihlein[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]The Four Peters: Brandt Snedeker, Steve Stricker, Hideki Matsuyama, Daniel Summerhays, David Lingmerth, Scott Brown, Matteo Manassero, Scott Langley[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Big Mike: Keegan Bradley, Patrick Reed, Russel Henley, Sang-Moon Bae, Jason Kokrak, Pat Perez, Thorbjorn Oleson, Kiradech Aphibarnrat[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]RandyWatson: Adam Scott, Charl Schwartzel, John Huh, Ernie Els, Ken Duke, Jhonattan Vegas, Francesco Molinari, Miguel Angel Jimenez[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]DaveStapleton:  Dustin Johnson, Scott Piercy, Martin Laird, Scott Stallings, Ben Martin, Blake Adams, Edward Loar, Justin Hicks[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]AirborneSas: Phil Mickelson, Ryan Moore, Chris Stroud, Ryo Ishikawa, Geoff Ogilvy, Stewart Cink, Jamie Donaldson, David Toms[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Leon Trotsky: Jason Day, Lee Westwood, Roberto Castro, Kevin Na, Richard H Lee, Jonathan Byrd, Bryce Molder, Vijay Singh[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Zomp: Webb Simpson, Sergio Garcia, Marc Leishman, Carl Pettersson, Michael Thompson, Charlie Beljan, Mark Wilson, Ricky Barnes[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Teddykgb: Hunter Mahan, Gary Woodland, Matt Every, Rory Sabbatini, KJ Choi, Cameron Tringale, Michael Putnam, William McGirt[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]WayBackVazquez: Henrik Stenson, Chris Kirk, Ryan Palmer, Martin Kaymer, Camilo Villegas, Josh Teater, Brad Fritsch, Stuart Appleby[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Bostonbeerbelly: Jimmy Walker, Jim Furyk, Brian Stuard, Morgan Hoffmann, John Merrick, David Lynn, Nicholas Thompson, Tyrone Van Aswegen[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Dan1864: Bill Haas, Graem DeLaet, Louis Oostuizen, Kyle Stanley, Tim Clark, Russel Knox, Charlie Wi, Jamie Lovemark[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Ezemerson:[/SIZE] Billy Horschel, Harris English, Brian Harman, Brendon Todd, Justin Leonard, Hudson Swafford, Erik Compton, Kevin Kisner
 
[SIZE=10pt]Average Reds: Nick Watney, Bubba Watson, Boo Weekley, Spencer Levin, John Rollins, Lucas Glover, Trevor Immelman, Aaron Baddeley[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]Flawless: Justin Rose, Jason Dufner, Kevin Chappell, John Peterson, John Senden, Chesson Hadley, JJ Henry, Branden Grace[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10pt]JohnMD20: Luke Donald, Rickie Fowler, DA Points, Freddie Jacobsen, Peter Hanson, Ben Crane, Johnson Wagner, James Hahn[/SIZE]
 

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[SIZE=9pt]SCHEDULE:[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]February 6-9: [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]February 13-16: [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Northern Trust Open[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]February 20-23: [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]World Golf Championships-Accenture Match Play Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]Feb. 27-March 2: [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]The Honda Classic[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]March 6-9:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]World Golf Championships-Cadillac Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]March 13-16:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Valspar Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]March 20-23: Arnold Palmer Invitational presented by MasterCard[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]March 27-30:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Valero Texas Open[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]April 3-6:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Shell Houston Open[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]April 10-13:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]The Masters[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]April 17-20:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]RBC Heritage[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]April 24-27:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Zurich Classic of New Orleans[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]May 1-4:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Wells Fargo Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]May 8-11:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]THE PLAYERS Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]May 15-18:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]HP Byron Nelson Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]May 22-25:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Crowne Plaza Invitational at Colonial[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]May 29-June 1:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]The Memorial Tournament presented by Nationwide Insurance[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]June 5-8:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]FedEx St. Jude Classic[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]June 12-15:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]U.S. Open[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]June 19-22:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Travelers Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]June 26-29:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]AT&T National[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]July 3-6:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]The Greenbrier Classic[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]July 10-13:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]John Deere Classic[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]July 17-20:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]The Open Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]July 24-27:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]RBC Canadian Open[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]July 31-Aug. 3:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]World Golf Championships-Bridgestone Invitational[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]Aug. 7-10:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]PGA Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]Aug. 14-17:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Wyndham Championship[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]Aug. 21-24:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]The Barclays*[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]Aug. 29-Sept. 1:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Deutsche Bank Championship*[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]Sept. 4-7:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]BMW Championship*[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=9pt]Sept. 11-14:  [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]TOUR Championship by Coca-Cola*[/SIZE]
 
 
 
POINTS:
 

Winner 15
Playoff Loser 12
2nd (plus ties) 10
3rd-5th (plus ties) 7
6th-10th (plus ties) 5
11th-25th (plus ties) 3
26th-cut line 1

For the match play, even though its once a year, points will be:

2nd round losers 1
Sweet 16 losers 3
Elite 8 losers 5
Final 4 losers 7
Runner Up 10 (12 points for extra holes)
Winner 15
 

Leon Trotsky

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The power rankings from last year were not so hot in the power department. Lets see how they shape up this year.
 
I like that my team has 7 guys going this week and next week. I don't think I had 7 go once last year.
 

ezemerson

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Annnnnnd Harris English birdies three in a row to go into a tie for the lead....take that......oh wait we start next week haha
 

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The power rankings from last year were not so hot in the power department. Lets see how they shape up this year.
 
I like that my team has 7 guys going this week and next week. I don't think I had 7 go once last year.

Well be posted tonight.
 

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I am excited to be playing again and to not have Anthony Kim on my roster.
 
Edit:  Plus Bubba Watson is tied for the lead this week.  I know it doesn't count, but .....
 

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I've been stuck in the office until midnight the last two nights and then come home to a 2 week old baby. CUT ME SOME SLACK JERK.

I'm just doing the write ups. Will be posted today.
 

Deathofthebambino

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As I'm typing this, my guys are currently 1st, T3rd, T10th, T40th, T52nd, and T52nd.  Zach Johnson isn't even playing.  My God, I can't wait for this thing to start.  I'm 90% sure I didn't have a single week last week with more than 4 guys making the cut, if the number was even that high. 
 

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good thing for everyone else this week doesnt count.....unless you are just gloating to get a positive review from Fl4wl3ss
 

Deathofthebambino

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I'm pretty sure I'd be winning if this week counted.  I have 1st, 2nd, 11th, 40th, 54th, and 54th right now.
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
I'm pretty sure I'd be winning if this week counted.  I have 1st, 2nd, 11th, 40th, 54th, and 54th right now.
 
It would be awesome if we awarded points based on where the players were at the beginning of the second round...
 

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I'm actually not going to do write-ups this year. I've gone back and forth on whether or not to actually post these rankings - I've tried to be objective as possible by using a combination of fantasy rankings, official world golf rankings and FedEx rankings. My team keeps coming up on top and I don't feel comfortable with it. So I'm posting the work I've done so far.
 
The reason my team keeps coming on top is because I'm one of two teams with 2 guys in the top 15 in the OWGR, 6 of 8 in the top 125 and nobody outside of the top 200. Everyone grades out pretty evenly when it comes to the fantasy rankings (no surprise here, we were all using similar lists). So the world rankings and FedEx rankings weighted more heavily (with the exception of Ezemerson who had 7 guys in the top 100 of the FedEx, but rated very poorly in the Fantasy rankings and the OWGR rankings).
 
In the list I have put the Fantasy ranking, the OWGR ranking and # of guys in the top-100 of the FedEx cup. I used the FedEx because it gives a good barometer of which teams are starting the year off well and which are not.
 
If nothing else, you all can see how you compare to each other with each of the 3 categories.
 
FL4WL3SS' POWER RANKINGS
Rank Team FantasyRank OWGRRank # FedEx Top-100
1 Flawless 2 3 5
2 Teddykgb 1 9 5
3 The Four Peters 7 4 4
4 Vegas Sox Fan 4 8 6
5 AirborneSas 15 1 5
6 Zomp 6 10 6
7 Leon Trotsky 3 16 3
8 RandyWatson 12 7 2
9 Big Mike 18 2 5
10 Cshea 16 5 3
11 Dan1864 8 13 6
12 Bob Montgomery’s Helmet Hat 10 12 3
13 DaveStapleton 5 17 5
14 JohnMD20 11 11 1
15 Death Of The Bambino 19 6 8
16 WayBackVazquez 14 14 5
17 Bostonbeerbelly 13 15 4
18 Average Reds 9 19 4
19 Lupe Whalewatch 17 18 6
20 Ezemerson 20 20 7
 
 

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I had a similar problem but really anyone would. If you are judging the results of a draft based on your selection criteria, you will always be on top. That being said I put something together as well. I used a combination of the results from last year along with a fantasy ranking for this year. I was hoping this would show a blend of past results and future potential. I also tried to add commentary at the end but keep in mind I don't know shit.
 
  [tablegrid= Vegas Sox Fan Power Rankings ]Rank Team Name 2013 Points Avg Ranking  2014 Projections Avg Ranking  Avg Ranking  Comments  1 Vegas Sox Fan 62.25  74.00  68.13  Sorry, I just really like my team. Good depth with a mix of high end talent and mediocre grinders.  2 Zomp 73.00  74.88  73.94  Really solid top 5. Beljan and Peterson might have been slight reaches but Barnes was good value.  3 TeddyKGB 88.75  68.88  78.81  Depends what you get from Sabbatini and McGirt but they could both end up being major steals.  4 WayBackVazquez 73.38  89.13  81.25  Nothing sexy here but decent to good selections all the way through. Teater is a great pick.  5 JohnMD20 79.88  83.38  81.63  Might have reached a bit on Jacobson but otherwise good value picks top to bottom.  6 The Four Peters 97.13  75.88  86.50  Top 5 are great and top 2 could be monsters. Bottom 3 are questionable. Matsuyama is the wild card.  7 DOTB 72.63  101.38  87.00  Johnson should beast but nothing else excites me about this team. Nothing wrong either.  8 Leon Trotsky 105.38  72.88  89.13  Good top four with nothing but question marks at the bottom. Na and Singh are a roll of the dice.  9 BostonBeerBelly 93.75  88.63  91.19  See above. Merrick should be a steal but I don't know who Tyrone is.  10 RandyWatson 100.88  84.50  92.69  Solid top 5 but all 3 at the bottom are lottery tickets. Duke was a good pick.  11 Average Reds 104.88  80.75  92.81  Anything could happen but relying on Watney and Watson scares me. Rollins was a great value pick.  12 Flawless 116.88  69.38  93.13  Top 3 are good and Henry could be the steal of the draft but everyone else was a reach.  13 AirborneSas 94.88  94.63  94.75  Phil will be Phil but not much to say about the bottom half.  14 Big Mike 83.75  107.50  95.63  Actually good picks here. Just not sure about Aphibarnrat. This ranking is probably too low.  15 BMHH 112.50  81.13  96.81  I know Tiger is here but man, everything else is some level of a mess.  16 Dan1864 119.00  77.13  98.06  There's potential here but these guys were pretty bad last year. Particulary Knox and Oosty.  17 Cshea 115.00  104.25  109.63  There's talent here, I just don't know how much they will play. Holmes and Uihlein are questionable.  18 DaveStapleton 147.50  74.50  111.00  There are so many things that could go badly here. I don't feel good about DJ and Piercy.  19 Ezemerson 134.13  102.88  118.50  I mean, go Bulldogs… I guess.  20 Lupe Walewatch 139.25  98.75  119.00  Just way too many question marks at the bottom. Speith could carry this team though.  [/tablegrid]
 

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In case anyone is curious, here is a comparison of the rankings from last year along with actual results.
 
  [tablegrid= Power Rankings vs. Actuals ]Team Name 2013 Points 2013 Ranking Flawless Ranking Flawless Delta PGA Fantasy Rank PGA Fantasy Delta  bostonbeerbelly 307 1 8 7 7 6  Ezemerson 304 2 10 8 9 7  Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat 277 3 3 0 2 1  cshea 261 4 16 12 17 13  WayBackVazquez 246 5 14 9 14 9  Lupe Whalewatch 242 6 21 15 21 15  Vegas Sox Fan 232 7 5 2 5 2  RandyWatson 228 8 22 14 11 3  AirborneSas 216 9 19 10 20 11  DOTB 213 10 11 1 10 0  FL4WL3SS 211 11 2 9 4 7  The Four Peters 209 12 1 11 3 9  BigMike 206 13 13 0 12 1  DrewDog 201 14 17 3 13 1  teddykgb 200 15 7 8 8 7  Dave Stapleton 194 16 6 10 6 10  jayclerm 187 17 20 3 19 2  Average Reds 186 18 9 9 16 2  Dan1864 158 19 18 1 18 1  Leon Trotsky 129 20 12 8 22 2  Johnmd20 120 21 15 6 15 6  Zomp 112 22 4 18 1 21  164 136 [/tablegrid]
 

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I still can't believe Zomp was ranked 4th in last year's power rankings. Swing....and a miss.
 

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I'm actually much happier with my team this year. Last season I had Justin Rose and 7 guys who had no prayer of winning until Spieth joined up with his monster second half. This year I feel like I have a few guys who, when they play, could win any tournament. I realize with my draft this year, I likely punted any chance at the year-long title. I was mostly swinging for the fences in majors, and I think I did a decent job of building a high ceiling team.

I've also got Rory. His last 2 events: 1, T2. He shot a 63 on Thursday and has a 1-shot lead in Dubai after 36 holes. He is scheduled for the 2 WGC's, the Honda and the Shell Houston in advance of Augusta. Let's get it started.
 

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I have a feeling that my team is going to be very middle of the road this year, a lot of missed cuts with a few top 25's per tournament turning out a steady 6-10 points per tournament without winning many overall weeks.  
 
I think you all are underestimating Van Aswegen. 
 

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cshea said:
I'm actually much happier with my team this year. Last season I had Justin Rose and 7 guys who had no prayer of winning until Spieth joined up with his monster second half. This year I feel like I have a few guys who, when they play, could win any tournament. I realize with my draft this year, I likely punted any chance at the year-long title. I was mostly swinging for the fences in majors, and I think I did a decent job of building a high ceiling team.

I've also got Rory. His last 2 events: 1, T2. He shot a 63 on Thursday and has a 1-shot lead in Dubai after 36 holes. He is scheduled for the 2 WGC's, the Honda and the Shell Houston in advance of Augusta. Let's get it started.
Dude, the top half of your team is better than anyone's.
 

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FL4WL3SS said:
I'm actually surprised at the number of teams i hit on though, but yeah I definitely had some big misses.
 
I was more trying to make fun of Zomp's team's awfulness than anything.
 

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Lucas Glover follows up his opening round 79 with a 66.  Season hasn't even started and I hate him.  And Keegan Bradley is on his way to reversing those numbers.
 
Early season golf ....
 

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And, just to add, TheFourPeters' team looks shaky. Bottom quartile finisher is guaranteed.
 

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johnmd20 said:
And, just to add, TheFourPeters' team looks shaky. Bottom quartile finisher is guaranteed.
 
That may be, but I at least hope to win a week or two this year. Going for the weekly payoffs, not the overall title. 
 

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I have no idea what the fantasy rank refers to, and I can assure you I wasn't using a similar list to anyone. WGR is extremely far down the list of predictive factors for our scoring system. My picks were based on a mix of qualitative (performance results, both scoring and tournament placement) and quantitative (expected scoring events played) factors. I guess Henrik Stenson, as #3 in the world and the FedEX Cup champion, was my best pick according to Flawless. He's probably my 5th best pick by round chosen in my eyes.

I'll happily bet my team against Flawless's.
 

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WayBackVazquez said:
I have no idea what the fantasy rank refers to, and I can assure you I wasn't using a similar list to anyone. WGR is extremely far down the list of predictive factors for our scoring system. My picks were based on a mix of qualitative (performance results, both scoring and tournament placement) and quantitative (expected scoring events played) factors. I guess Henrik Stenson, as #3 in the world and the FedEX Cup champion, was my best pick according to Flawless. He's probably my 5th best pick by round chosen in my eyes.

I'll happily bet my team against Flawless's.
You're so quick to shit on everyone's list, why not post your own?

I'm not betting with you, I'd feel dirty taking your money.
 

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I only shit on YOUR list, actually. Because it sucks. Again.

I appreciate your charity, though. If anyone else would like to bet their money against my welfare check on your team, they can do so.
 

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Just saying a Georgia alum is in the lead right now.....too bad he's the only one I don't have