2014 PGA $ League: Add/Drop Period

[Vegas Sox Fan]

Results Updated. Mid season pickup order below. There's one tie and I don't know how we break those.
 
  [tablegrid= Re-draft Order  ]Draft Position Team Points Add Drop 1 DaveStapleton 75 George McNeill Edward Loar 2 BMHH 85 Paul Casey Nicolas Colsaerts 3 Average Reds 95 Retief Goosen Spencer Levin 4 Zomp 99 Steven Bowditch Charlie Beljan 5 AirborneSas 103 Pass   6 Dan1864 106 Andrew Svoboda Jamie Lovemark 7 DOTB 112 Robert Streb Greg Chalmers 8 JohnMD20 114 Pass   9 Leon Trotsky 129  Victor Dubuisson  Vijay Singh 10 WayBackVazquez 130  Brice Garnet   Brad Fritsch  11 Ezemerson 130 Pass   12 Big Mike 131 Billy Hurley III   Kiradech Aphinbarnrat 13 The Four Peters 135 Pass   14 Lupe Walewatch 136 Pass   15 RandyWatson 138 Pass   16 Flawless 140 Pass   17 Vegas Sox Fan 143 Pass   18 Cshea 152  Joost Luiten  Peter Uihlein  19 BostonBeerBelly 153 Danny Lee David Lynn   20 TeddyKGB 155     [/tablegrid]

 

[Zomp]

Okay hopefully we can get this done before Thursday.  As far as the tie goes, I think last year we did whoever got to the computer first but I'm willing to listen to ideas.  I'll PM people when its their turn but please pay attention to the thread.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

I think ties should be broken from the initial draft order - whoever had the worse draft position in the initial draft should get the tiebreaker.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

So...I'm ready

 

[Average Reds]

Edit:  NM, you're not on the clock.
 
For the record, I'm ready as well.  Unless one of you takes my pick, in which case I will be completely flustered.

 

[cshea]

I can't wait to pick up Two Gloves.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Nope, I've got worse guys than him.

 

[Vegas Sox Fan]

At this rate we should be done by next Thursday.

 

[Dave Stapleton]

Sorry ... I will get mine done tonight.  Hopefully soon.

 

[Dave Stapleton]

Drop: Edward Loar
 
Pick up: George McNeill

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Drop:  Nicolas Colsaerts, but first I want to sincerely thank him for the single point he got me this season
 
Add:  Paul Casey

 

[Average Reds]

Drop: Spenser Levin and his single point
 
Add:  Retief Goosen

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Goosen was #2 on my very short list

 

[Zomp]

I'll DROP: Charlie Beljan
and ADD: Steven Bowditch

 

[Zomp]

Airborne SAS doesn't want to change his team so Dan is up next

 

[Lupe Whalewatch]

you can skip me when my turn comes up as well. 

 

[johnmd20]

Skip me too.

 

[Average Reds]

Goosen was #2 on my very short list

 
Casey was #1 on my two-person list.  (You bastard.)

 

[Deathofthebambino]

Damn it guys.  I'm not sure if I'm up or not, but I have my list at home and no chance today to re-create it.  I'll get my pick in tonight when I get home, assuming it's my turn.

 

[Vegas Sox Fan]

Damn it guys.  I'm not sure if I'm up or not, but I have my list at home and no chance today to re-create it.  I'll get my pick in tonight when I get home, assuming it's my turn.

 
I think Dan is still up. I've updated the opening post with results thus far.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

This add/drop exercise is flawed. Folks should have to announce who they are dropping before the add period begins so the teams picking first have choice of EVERYONE available.

The fact that a good player could get dropped later in the round for one of the better teams to pick up, is a shame.

 

[Dan1864]

Sorry for delay. In Vegas and just waking up. I'll cut lovemark and and Andrew svoboda

 

[Deathofthebambino]

I agree with you Flawless.  Otherwise, the rule should be that people who get dropped should remain unavailable to be picked up by anyone.  Odds are the guys who are doing well and thus, pick later, are going to be dropping better players than the people who go early, so why should the leaders picking at the end have a shot at those good drops?  Seems very off to me. 
 
I'm taking Robert Streb and dropping Greg Chalmers.

 

[cshea]

The problem with dropping people in advance is this...what happens if a team in near the top of the standings drops a player who then gets picked up by another team. By the time the team that dropped that player is on the clock, what happens if they don't like any remaining players? What do you do then? 

 

[Leon Trotsky]

I am dropping Vijay Singh and picking up Victor Dubuisson. 

 

[WayBackVazquez]

...

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

McNeill was the first player taken

 

[WayBackVazquez]

Drop Brad Fritsch
Add Brice Garnett

 

[Vegas Sox Fan]

The problem with dropping people in advance is this...what happens if a team in near the top of the standings drops a player who then gets picked up by another team. By the time the team that dropped that player is on the clock, what happens if they don't like any remaining players? What do you do then? 

Right, and what is the concern? That the better teams are picking up the worse teams garbage? If you don't want other teams to pick up good players, don't drop good players.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

The problem with dropping people in advance is this...what happens if a team in near the top of the standings drops a player who then gets picked up by another team. By the time the team that dropped that player is on the clock, what happens if they don't like any remaining players? What do you do then? 

I don't see the problem, that's the risk you take when dropping a player.
 
I just think it's shitty that the worst team doesn't get a pick of all available players. If we're trying to be fair, and it seems we are by having the drop order be driven by the standings, then all players should be available to the first team that picks.
 
In the end, it probably doesn't really matter that much. I just think it's a gap that could be addressed next season.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Tee times in less than 24 hrs.  UGA dude is up

 

[ezemerson]

I'm in Vegas too....I'll just keep all my guys

 

[bostonbeerbelly]

Hope we can get these last 8 picks done in the next 12 hours. I will be ready to go when it is my turn. 

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

While it would be(have been) nice to get this done before tee off tomorrow, it really shouldn't matter.  I don't think that anything that happens in the first round of a nondescript tournament is going to affect anyone's drop/add choice.

 

[BigMike]

Well I apologize for being the slow guy,  just totally stressed at work. 
 
I will probably regret this, but I will drop Kiradech Aphinbarnrat,   and pick up Billy Hurley III

 

[bostonbeerbelly]

So how is this going to work, we all keep the same team as we originally had and new teams start next week?

 

[Vegas Sox Fan]

I think BMHH is probably right, I don't think Thursday results will impact many peoples choices. 

 

[bostonbeerbelly]

I think BMHH is probably right, I don't think Thursday results will impact many peoples choices. 

 
Perfectly find by me, I have a list and my pick when it gets to me won't be affected by one round.
 
Also Average Reds with Reteif Goosen looking good today, I am sure would like his points counting this week. 

 

[Zomp]

RandyWatson is also going to pass on dropping anyone

 

[WayBackVazquez]

I think BMHH is probably right, I don't think Thursday results will impact many peoples choices.

We'll see. After DOTB took Streb, I had a list of about five guys who were fungible in my eyes. If somebody else has such a list, and one of the guys is at the top of the leaderboard after today, what do you think happens?

I think this should wait until next week.

EDIT: I just noticed my add is sucking it up today. I don't care if we make only him count; I just think late picks shouldn't be counting.

 

[bostonbeerbelly]

We'll see. After DOTB took Streb, I had a list of about five guys who were fungible in my eyes. If somebody else has such a list, and one of the guys is at the top of the leaderboard after today, what do you think happens?

I think this should wait until next week.

EDIT: I just noticed my add is sucking it up today. I don't care if we make only him count; I just think late picks shouldn't be counting.

 
On the other hand, if this gets dragged out a few more days and someone say player X looks great going into Sunday and I take him, doesn't that give me an unfair advantage of getting a player that has moved up the fedex points instead of someone picking before me. 
 
I guess I don't know what is the fairest way of doing it and I feel the if T4P and Flawless get their pics in soon this could be done in a matter of a few hours.

 

[Vegas Sox Fan]

 
On the other hand, if this gets dragged out a few more days and someone say player X looks great going into Sunday and I take him, doesn't that give me an unfair advantage of getting a player that has moved up the fedex points instead of someone picking before me. 
 
I guess I don't know what is the fairest way of doing it and I feel the if T4P and Flawless get their pics in soon this could be done in a matter of a few hours.

 
Yeah I'm good either way, someone just needs to make a call. Zomp?

 

[FL4WL3SS]

I don't know how available TFP is, to be honest. He's tied up this week.

 

[Zomp]

I'm of the opinion that 2 days really isn't going to matter too much.  If someone is going to take a guy based on the results of today or tomorrow, more power to 'em.  I think if we get it done before Sunday, it should count towards this week, but I don't feel strongly about it either way.
 
The format isn't perfect, but I'm really happy with the way its going for just its second year.  I'd like to think that people won't care too much one way or another.

 

[WayBackVazquez]

We should let anyone who wants to change his picks before the final pick is made, then.

 

[Zomp]

Whatever you want.  Its hard enough to do this on a message board where not everyone can check in every day.  At the end of the days its supposed to be fun.  I don't want anyone getting upset over a perceived lack of fairness.

 

[cshea]

FWIW, last year the changes didn't take place until the US Open.

 

[Zomp]

Ha good point! I knew I was forgetting something from last year!  If everyone wants, that seems like the fair way to do it.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Agreed.

 

[Leon Trotsky]

Agreed with me.