2014 PGA Championship- Valhalla

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That was terrible, they showed Phil shot and you could see Fowler's unseen shot on the green.
 

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twibnotes said:
Maybe one of you golf experts can as answer this...why is Valhalla considered, in the words of one of the announcers/analysts, "not that great a course"?
IMO, great golf courses are distinctive. Valhalla isn't, although it sets up well for match play (read: Ryder Cup).
 

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twibnotes said:
Maybe one of you golf experts can as answer this...why is Valhalla considered, in the words of one of the announcers/analysts, "not that great a course"?
 
Well, of Nicklaus courses, Muirfield is a better course by far. I also think they're calling it mediocre compared to other major-caliber courses, and it is. Compared to your average course, there's nothing wrong with it.
 
Edit: as Freddie Lynn said, it's not distinct. And its distinct elements, like the island green, feel contrived.
 

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Freddy Linn said:
IMO, great golf courses are distinctive. Valhalla isn't, although it sets up well for match play (read: Ryder Cup).
 
I was thinking that earlieer - it doesn't 'film' well.
 

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Freddy Linn said:
IMO, great golf courses are distinctive. Valhalla isn't, although it sets up well for match play (read: Ryder Cup).
Thanks.

Do you mean distinct in terms of the technical aspects (distance, layout etc) or the look and feel?

Ex: Harbour Town is distinct in the sense that it has the light house but I have no idea if it is distinct in other respects
 

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twibnotes said:
Thanks.

Do you mean distinct in terms of the technical aspects (distance, layout etc) or the look and feel?

Ex: Harbour Town is distinct in the sense that it has the light house but I have no idea if it is distinct in other respects
Great gold courses have at least a handful of memorable holes. Valhalla's only one is 18, which is easy as shit.
 

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Cameras make everything so much lighter. It has to be hard as hell to see for these guys.