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The Final Four is set with all ranked teams and three from the ACC.
 
Saturday, May 24 - M&T Bank Coliseum, Baltimore MD
01:00 pm - #1 Duke vs #5 Denver (ESPN2)
03:30 pm - #6 Maryland vs #7 Notre Dame (ESPN2)
 
Duke has won 4 of the 7 previous match-ups with Denver, including a 14-10 victory in February.
 

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Duke now has 8 straight final fours - I believe every year since the season was canceled by our idiot president.
 

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The last game of the weekend is underway, with the D-III semifinal Battle of the Delmarva Peninsula, or the War on the Eastern Shore.
 

 
The #4 Shoremen of Washington College are up on host and #2 Salisbury, 3-1 after a quarter. After spotting the visitors a 3-0 lead, the Gulls scored their lone goal on a Rhett DePol tally with just 8 seconds left. Salisbury got net-benders from Hunter Nowicki (twice) and Sid Looney.
 
Salisbury won the earlier match this season at home, 12-7. That was also Washington's only loss of the season. The schools are roughly 60 miles apart as the crow flies, with Chestertown (home to the Shoremen) due east of Baltimore across the Chesapeake, and Salisbury just south of Delaware's southwest corner.
 
EDIT - Sean Fitzgerald scores for Salisbury 45 sec into the 2nd quarter. 3-2 Shoremen.
 
EDIT - DePol gets his 2nd of the game, and they're knotted 3 apiece.
 
EDIT - Nowicki has a hat trick, and the Shoremen regain the lead 4-3 with 9:45 left in the half.
 
EDIT - Fitzgerald's 2nd ties it again for the Gulls, 4-4 with 8:00 to go.
 
EDIT - Adam Stork goes 5-hole on Washington goalie Ted DiSalvo, and Salisbury leads for the first time.  5-4 with 6:50 left.
 
EDIT - A 1:00 EMO for the Gulls, and Luke Phipps cashes in on a feed from DePol. 6-4 Salisbury with 4:29 remaining in the half. The Gulls have 6 of the game's last 7 goals.
 
EDIT - A Salisbury goal gets waved off on a roughing penalty, as Brandon Kendrick just leveled Washington's David McBrien. The Shoremen will have a lengthy 2:00 EMO.
 
EDIT - Casey Kermes scores on a feed from Looney with :35 left in the half, and WC is back within a goal at 6-5.
 
EDIT - DePol scores with a second left for Salisbury, but for the 2nd time a Gulls goal is waved off. This time it's because he was in the goal crease. Halftime, and it's a helluva game so far.
 

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The Shoremen lead everywhere but the scoreboard, winning first half faceoffs (8-3), ground balls (16-11) and shots (16-15).
 
EDIT - Second half underway. DePol draws another EMO for the Gulls as he gets slashed. 
 
EDIT - Phipps converts, going up top in the left corner with 12:51 left in the 3rd. 7-5 Salisbury.
 
EDIT - A bad turnover by WC on a misfired pass, one of several since they led early on. Looking flustered out there.
 
EDIT - Mike Kane makes them pay, scoring on a great pass from Fitzgerald. 8-5 Gulls.
 
EDIT - Salisbury with a 3+ minute possession, but they don't score. Still stressful for the defense. WC now with the ball and needing to turn the tide.
 
EDIT - Nothing happening on offense for the Shoremen, and the Gulls bring it the other way and score. Greg Korvin with a bouncer despite being tightly guarded, and it's 9-5 with 5:27 left in the 3rd. What was once a tight game is in danger of becoming a laugher.
 
EDIT - The Shoremen will get an EMO here for 1:00 on a slash call against Salisbury's Adam Stork. A big chance to get back into it with 2:16 remaining in Q3.
 
EDIT - Aaaaaaand Washington turns it over. They're pretty much toast, I'd say.
 
EDIT - Heading to the 4th, still a 9-5 Salisbury lead.
 

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Fitzgerald from Korvin on a jump shot for the hat trick, and it's 10-5 Gulls with 12:50 left in the 4th.
 
EDIT - Stork rifles one in low past DiSalvo to make it 11-5 Salisbury with 10:45 to play.
 
EDIT - Washington finally gets one back with their first goal of the half. Kermes from Looney makes it 11-6 with 9:20 left.
 
EDIT - The Shoremen go down a man on a slash call, and the Gulls make it 12-6 as Mike Kane scoops a loose ball 15 feet from the net and buries it. The goal comes just after the penalty expires. 6:32 to play.
 
EDIT - Kermes scores again for a hat trick on an underhanded shot, with another assist from Looney, and it's 12-7 Salisbury with 3:14 left.
 
EDIT - The Gulls get it right back. Mike Kane from Tommy Cirillo. 13-7 with 2:22 left. 
 
EDIT - Washington gets a garbage goal, and it ends as a 13-8 win for Salisbury as the Sea Gulls head to the championship game.
 

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The lower-division finals are now set for next weekend:
 
Sunday, May 25 - M&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore MD
01:00 pm - D-III Championship - #2 Salisbury (MD) vs #6 Tufts (MA)
04:00 pm - D-II Championship - #2 Limestone (SC) vs #8 LIU Post (NY)
 
No TV for either game, but they'll be streamed online at NCAA.com. 
 
Tufts & Salisbury have squared off in the national title game twice before, the Jumbos' only two appearances in the championship contest. Both games were also played at M&T Bank Stadium. In 2010 Tufts won the crown 9-6, while the following year the Gulls got revenge it in a 19-7 blowout. Salisbury has won 10 titles in 14 championship appearances since 1991, and they'll be seeking their 8th crown in the last 12 years.
 
LIU Post (formerly C.W. Post) will be seeking their 3rd title in the last six years and 4th overall in 8 finals. They won back-to-back in 2009 & 2010. Limestone is just 2-for-7 in title games, having lost their last four straight, with the Saints' last win coming in 2002 (11-9 over NY Tech). The two teams have met just once in a championship, with the Saints edging the Pioneers 10-9 in 2000. Limestone's last three finals losses have been brutal: 11-10 to Dowling in 2012 (at Gillette), 14-13 in OT to NY Tech in 2005, and 11-10 in 2OT to LeMoyne in 2004. 
 

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Denver & Duke underway on ESPN2. I have no idea what DU's plan is to contain Myles Jones.
 
The Pioneers draw first blood as Wesley Berg gets hammered with a double-team while falling down and shooting from beyond the left post, but scores anyway with 12:32 left in the 1st.
 
EDIT - And there's Jones, with the ridiculous lefty shot from the left point. It's like a fastball from a 6'8" J.R. Richard in his prime. Jesus fuck, he's unstoppable. Tied, 1-1 with 11:40 left.
 
EDIT - Duke takes the lead with 10:44 in the quarter, as Deemer Class rips a high-to-low shot through the 5-hole. 2-1, Blue Devils.
 
EDIT - Denver knots it up 2-2 on Tyler Pace's 24th of the season with 5:38 left.
 
EDIT - Duke's Chad Cohan scores his 6th of the year from 20 feet out on an overhander through a screen on a step-down. 3-2 Blue Devils, 1:10 left in the 1st.
 

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2nd quarter underway, and they trade goals. Deemer Class with another for Duke on a tremendous step-up lefty ripper that sneaks just over LaPlante's stick shoulder-high to his left, and it's 4-3 Blue Devils.
 
EDIT - Denver with a horrible turnover in the final minute that allows Duke to set up off a time-out. Jordan Wolf scores on a left-side net rush down low, his second straight.
 
EDIT - Duke closes the half on a 4-0 run to lead 8-4.
 

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Not much of a lax fan as it was not a real popular sport outside of Long Island when I was a kid, but maybe you guys can  explain why the only legit school in lax west of the Mississippi is Denver.  Out here in LA I see more and more kids playing it and it is becoming pretty popular in the high schools.  Do they not play it at the collegiate level in the West? Honest questions as I think it is a great sport and from a popularity standpoint, I think it is passing baseball with the next generation. But I never see/hear about a MWC or Pac 12 team playing it.
 

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berniecarbo1 said:
Not much of a lax fan as it was not a real popular sport outside of Long Island when I was a kid, but maybe you guys can  explain why the only legit school in lax west of the Mississippi is Denver.  Out here in LA I see more and more kids playing it and it is becoming pretty popular in the high schools.  Do they not play it at the collegiate level in the West? Honest questions as I think it is a great sport and from a popularity standpoint, I think it is passing baseball with the next generation. But I never see/hear about a MWC or Pac 12 team playing it.
LI and Baltimore area kids still dominate the sport but it has grown drastically since I was a freshman in 2000. Denver and Air Force are the only two D1 schools west of the Mississippi I believe. Hell people who follow the sport believe Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Michigan are western schools. There are more and more kids on the rosters of the lacrosse powerhouses coming from the west. A quick check of Duke's roster shows two kids from CA and two kids from TX.I don't know why more schools out west haven't added the sport at the NCAA level. I do know some of the schools out west are in a league called the MCLA which is not part of the NCAA.
 

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Speaking of east coast domination of this sport, enjoy your future in Big Ten lacrosse, Maryland.
 

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berniecarbo1 said:
Not much of a lax fan as it was not a real popular sport outside of Long Island when I was a kid, but maybe you guys can  explain why the only legit school in lax west of the Mississippi is Denver.  Out here in LA I see more and more kids playing it and it is becoming pretty popular in the high schools.  Do they not play it at the collegiate level in the West? Honest questions as I think it is a great sport and from a popularity standpoint, I think it is passing baseball with the next generation. But I never see/hear about a MWC or Pac 12 team playing it.
 
You're right that historically it's been an East Coast sport at the college and HS level, especially Long Island, upstate NY, NJ, eastern PA, MD, DE and northern VA. When I graduated HS in MA in '82, there were about two dozen high schools statewide that sponsored the sport, most notably Longmeadow, Lexington, Lincoln-Sudbury and Concord-Carlisle. These were (and still are) high-income suburbs. Today there are 212, so it's no longer an exclusive sport.
 
It's been played in the Deep South, Southwest, Midwest, Mountain and Pacific regions collegiately for about 20 years to varying degrees, but not necessarily as an NCAA sport. Instead, it's treated by most of those schools as a club sport, but the degree of organization is still at a pretty high level, including national tournaments and championships. In many cases, Title IX gender-equity/funding issues prevent schools from sponsoring it at the NCAA level. In others, it's been the costs of recruiting, especially since it wasn't a popular high school sport in those regions.
 
But that's been changing, and pretty quickly.
 

 

 
Sales of lacrosse gear nationwide rose over 25% in the past year alone. That covers not just pro, college & high school, but youth leagues. The concerns over head injuries in football are going to prompt more and more parents to guide their kids toward less risky sports, lacrosse among them. Ditto for ice hockey, where equipment and ice time are far more expensive, and most of the nation will never agree to fund the number of rinks required to grow that sport competitively. The migration of families from the northeast and the rust belt to more southerly and westerly locales also bodes well, because these are the people who are going to advocate for its growth at the youth and HS levels in those areas. Lacrosse is going to explode over the next decade.
 
JHU Sox fan said:
I do know some of the schools out west are in a league called the MCLA which is not part of the NCAA.
 
There are 10 primary division I college club leagues today within the MCLA, which include many of the same schools identified with big-time football & basketball. You'll find many SEC, Big 12, and Pac 12 powers, plus all the ACC and Big Ten schools that don't currently sponsor it as an NCAA sport (Clemson, VA Tech, Florida St, Indiana, Iowa, Illinois, etc.)
 
Whether these same schools pursue NCAA classification for lax will depend on many issues, but it's already happening. Next year will be the Big Ten's first season as a sponsored men's league, though the original 5 member schools have sponsored it in other NCAA conferences for quite some time. It'll also be the first year of the Pac 12 women's lacrosse conference. A bunch of schools are adding it as a women's sport to achieve Title IX balance with men's sports (My niece, who's from MA, just finished her first season as a scholarship player with Colorado). Then there are the major conference TV networks, plus the newer independent sports-oriented networks like CBSSN, NBCSN, Fox Sports 1 & 2, etc., that are also hungry for content to fill vast blocks of open time.
 
But the writing's on the wall. Whether it's immediately for Title IX compliance, in a few years for TV money, or in 10-15 years in response to the rapid increase in youth & HS play, it's only a matter of time before we see schools like Wisconsin, Texas, Georgia, and UCLA join with other like-minded conference members and make the move to NCAA D-I.
 

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Denver and Air Force are the only two DI lacrosse schools that aren't in the eastern time zone.
 
Denver has been playing seriously for decades; when my dad was at Hopkins in the late 1960s, Denver had a coach from Baltimore named Jay Sweeney (I think he was their first varsity coach) who used to fly out to study under the Johns Hopkins coaching staff for a week or two every spring and was recruiting players out of the east coast prep schools, where almost all of the talent base was.
 

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I grew up in Montclair NJ where lax was way bigger than baseball and moved from Long Island to Orange County CA seven years ago where I have witnessed the explosion.

We're not yet seeing the school kids carrying sticks wherever they go like back east but there are plenty of real athletic HS kids who've taken up the game because of the action it offers.

They can play year round but they have to put in the time against the walls to build stick skills.

It's just a matter of time before there'll be enough knowledgable coaching (there are some entrepreneurial east coast guys starting coaching business) around and you'll see more Denvers out here.

Which will be great for the sport.
 
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The lower-division finals are now set for next weekend:
 
Sunday, May 25 - M&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore MD
01:00 pm - D-III Championship - #2 Salisbury (MD) vs #6 Tufts (MA)
04:00 pm - D-II Championship - #2 Limestone (SC) vs #8 LIU Post (NY)
 
No TV for either game, but they'll be streamed online at NCAA.com. 
 
D-III Update
 
Streaming here
 
Salisbury led after a quarter 3-1, but it's been all Tufts since then as the Jumbos tied it up 5-5 at the break and now lead 12-6 heading to the 4th following a dominant 7-1 3rd quarter. Tufts also has 7 assists today giving them 45 for the tournament, breaking the record previously held by Salisbury and Roanoke.
 
EDIT - The Sea Gulls get two quick goals to start the 4th, and it's 12-8 with 12:48 to play.
 
EDIT - A slash call on Tufts, and Salisbury will have the 1:00 EMO with 7:21 to play. 
 
EDIT - Sean Fitzgerald with a lefty rifle from the left point finds the upper-left corner for Salisbury with 6:52 left, and it's 12-9 Jumbos. Gulls on a 3-0 run this quarter
 
EDIT - Big ground ball takeaway by Salisbury in the Jumbos' zone with 3:56 left. 
 
EDIT - Nice save by Patton Watkins up high for Tufts. Jumbos take over with 3:10 left.
 
EDIT - And another takeaway by the Gulls on an intercepted pass with 2:25 to play.
 
EDIT - Another big save up top for Watkins. Tufts ball.
 
EDIT - Penalty call coming up on the Gulls, but it's delayed. The whistle finally comes, and Tufts will have an EMO for the final minute which is all that remains.
 
EDIT - That'll do it. Party time in Medford, as Tufts wins its second D-III Mens' Lax National Title in the last five years. The Sea Gulls have been their victims both times, both finals played at M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore, and both games won by 3-goal margins (9-6 in 2010)
 
 
 
 

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The D-II championship started out close, but became a one-sided affair. LIU Post led 2-1 after a quarter, with T.J. DiCarlo making 4 big saves in the Pioneers net to preserve the lead, and they were tied with Limestone 3-3 midway through the 2nd. But it was all Saints from there, with a 5-1 finish to the half giving Limestone an 8-4 lead at the break after out-shooting LIU, 23-11.
 
The Pioneers couldn't get anything going offensively the rest of the way, with Limestone managing their possession time, eating some clock and not taking any undue risks. The scoring was 2-1 for the Saints in each of the final two quarters, and they went on to win the title, 12-6. Limestone's Vinny Ricci was named the tournament's Most Oustanding Player.
 

 
 
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A note on today's Duke-Notre Dame Division I final (1:00 pm start):
 
The Worldwide Leader is actually doing something worthy of faint praise today by airing the game on two different networks. ESPN2 will have the standard telecast, while ESPNU will have it exclusively from the aerial SpiderCam vantage point.
 
While the standard broadcast will have select SpiderCam replays, watching the entire game from that viewpoint ought to be far more illuminating in terms of how offensive and defensive formations and rotations develop, especially on fast breaks. I assume they'll still show replays from standard camera angles, particularly on goals, penalties, injuries, and critical face-offs & ground balls.
 
Of course, there's literally nothing else going on this afternoon in terms of live ESPN/ABC-controlled sports that could be put in that time slot, and that's the only thing making this dual broadcast possible. So I won't exactly pat the ESPN execs on the back for this decision. But it's nonetheless miraculous that they're not shoving an encore presentation of worthless crap like First Take or The Herd down everyone's throats.
 

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It takes 7 minutes for the first goal to be notched, and it's Christian Walsh putting Duke on the board with a bounce shot into the upper-left corner of the net.
 
EDIT - I take back what I said about the SpiderCam feed. It's like they hired some drone pilot trainee to operate the thing. Clearly whoever is in control has never done this for a LAX game before. But it's not all their fault. The wide-angle lens, coupled with the frequent zooming in & out as action continually darts away from the camera's position, imparts a major dizziness factor.
 
EDIT - Duke gets #2 with just 8 secs left in the 1st quarter. Myles Jones, out of the box following an expired penalty, draws the double team and finds Deemer Class on the right wing for the whipper.
 
EDIT - End of the 1st, and it's the first time this season Notre Dame has failed to score in the opening frame. It's also the first scoreless 1st quarter for Duke's defense since March 18 vs Furman. Conor Kelly has 4 saves in the Irish net. Luke Aaron made 2 for the Blue Devils. The Irish outshot Duke 7-6, and they had 5 turnovers to Duke's 3.
 
EDIT - Duke scores 59 seconds into the 2nd quarter, but it's waved off by the refs. Blue Devils clearly offsides, but the Irish still had a sloppy turnover (their 6th of the game already) and a complete lack of organization coming out of the break.
 
EDIT - I'm officially done with the SpiderCam. Not really in the mood to pop Dramamine all afternoon.
 
EDIT - Notre Dame now with 8 turnovers. If not for Conor Kelly (5 saves), they'd be getting blown out.
 
EDIT - Myles Jones with his 36th of the season. Can't give enough superlatives to this kid. Christian Walsh running left to Jordan Wolf running right on the screen & roll, and Wolf dumps it inside to the center position where Jones turns & fires in a high-to-low shot. Un-fucking-stoppable. 3-0, Duke with 8:25 left in the half.
 
EDIT - And now an Irish time-out with 8:13 to play. They have fewer shots on net (2) than Duke has goals.
 
EDIT - ND gets a desperately needed goal from Matt Kavanagh, his 41st of the year. Fired in with a lefty shot from the right point through a screen, coming off a right-to-left dodge. Took just 5 secs from the re-start of the clock. Duke up, 3-1.
 
EDIT - Deemer Class scores for Duke after the Irish triple-teamed Walsh, who dumped it over for the wide-open shot. No chance to stop that when you leave Class that much room and a chance to plant & fire. 4-1 Blue Devils with 5:50 left.
 
EDIT - Jordan Wolf has broken Duke's single-season points record with 98.
 
EDIT - A Duke fast break leads to a Will Haus goal. He takes the feed from Aaron, goes the length of the field, and fires it in from the right wing 20 feet out just before reaching the goal line with an over the shoulder shot. 5-1, Blue Devils with under 3:00 in the half.
 
EDIT - Too many men on the field for the Irish, so it'll be a 30-second extra-man opportunity for Duke with 2:20 to go.
 
EDIT - Notre Dame forces a ground ball with a solid stick check, but they can't recover it. In the process, an Irish player breaks his stick and has to leave the field creating a 6-on-4 for Duke, but the Blue Devils can't convert. Penalty expires, and it'll be Duke ball with 1:41 left.
 
EDIT - HUGE save by Kelly on a Jones shot from the left point. He launches a fast break, but the Irish turn it over yet again. That's 11 so far. Duke resumes their circling of the Irish net like a band of hungry sharks.
 
EDIT - Halftime in Baltimore, and there's a penalty flag on the Irish for offsides. They'll start the 2nd half down a man for 30 seconds. Duke takes a 5-1 lead into the break.
 

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Quite a scene to see John Scioscia (5'6" 155 lbs) trying to get the ball back against Myles Jones (6'4" 240 lbs) was something.
 

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* Fewest goals allowed by Duke in any half since holding Stony Brook scoreless in the 1st on Feb 23.
 
* Notre Dame - 9 Shots, 4 On Goal, 10 GBs, 11 Turnovers. Yup, nearly three times as many TOs as SOG. 
 
* Duke - 16 Shots, 11 On Goal, 17 GBs, 6 Turnovers.
 
* The Duke midfield has carried the scoring load, with 75% of their points. Their attackers are 0-for-6 at the half with just one assist ... and the Blue Devils still lead by four. Gigantic missed opportunity for the Irish.
 
* The teams have split the 8 faceoffs with 4 apiece.
 
* Notre Dame cleared their zone on possessions 9 of 9 times, while Duke was 12 for 13. All the more frustrating for the Irish that all of their turnovers have come outside their own zone.
 
* Duke had both EMOs, and they were 0-for-2.
 

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The 1989 National Champs from Syracuse were honored at halftime for their 25th anniversary.
 
 

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Second half underway, and it takes Duke just 17 secs to add to their lead on the EMO. Kyle Keenan from Jack Bruckner makes it 6-1 Blue Devils.
 
EDIT - Brendan Fowler wins the face-off, and Duke continues to dominate possession.
 
EDIT - Another save by Kelly on another Jones shot, as he moved right-to-left on the outer perimeter and with the lefty stick fired high inside the right post. Duke maintains the ball.
 
EDIT - The refs call "warding off" on Duke, giving the ball to the Irish. And, predictably, ND turns it right back over to Duke mere seconds later. Down to 10:50 left in the 3rd quarter.
 
EDIT - ND gets it back on an out-of-bounds play, and they patiently work the ball around the back of the net to Sergio Perkovic on the left side. He moves right-to-left, and fires lefty on the running jumper. High-to-low. Beautiful goal with 9:48 left makes it 6-2 Duke.
 
EDIT - Another save by Kelly, his 9th. Despite the score, he's having a tremendous game. Just needs some help from the rest of his team.
 
EDIT - Aaron stops an Irish shot up from the right side of the field to his left, stuffing it up high with the basket. Huge stop, and it launches a fast break for Duke. They convert, with Thomas Zenker finding the net off the feed from Wolf. A 2-goal swing within seconds, and it's 7-2 Blue Devils with 7:30 left in the 3rd.
 
EDIT - With that last assist, Jordan Wolf has 300 for his Duke career. 
 
EDIT - The scrum off the face-off moves the ball all the way into Duke's zone, and they finally grab the ground ball. Yet another possession, and it leads to Jones firing one in from about 50 feet out. Just a ridiculous shot on a hard low bounce. 8-2 Duke with 6:40 left in Q3. 
 
EDIT - Duke gets called for a push, and Notre Dame will have its first EMO for 30 seconds with 6:12 left.
 
EDIT - During the scant few times ND has had the ball, Duke's done a great job double-teaming Kavanagh. Now he gets a wide-open shot from the right point, and he fires it too high.
 
EDIT - Perkovic converts from 20 feet out on a wide-open righty shot after planting firmly. The Irish draw within 8-3 with 5:20 left in the 3rd. And ND gets possession off the face-off.
 
EDIT - Horrible, awful, ridiculously late call negates a Duke turnover and Irish GB pickup, giving the ball back to the Devils at midfield. 3:30 left in the 3rd. 
 
EDIT - Solid D by the Irish in their zone, forcing the timer-on, and they get it back with 2:30 left in the 3rd.
 
EDIT - Notre Dame cashes in as Ben Pridemore scores with a lefty step-up sidearm whipper from the left wing, low into the net. 8-4 Duke with 1:31 left, and it's back-to-back goals for the Irish. And they win another face-off. They've got the momentum now, but can they maintain it?
 
EDIT - Another flag on Duke for a push. Delayed call and a free possession for the Irish.
 
EDIT - Whistle finally comes with 18.9 secs left after a save by Aaron. It'll be a 30-sec EMO split between the 3rd & early 4th, which hurts the Irish in terms of setting up.
 
EDIT - The Irish shoot high with nobody to back up behind the net, and it's Duke ball. But they clear it as the quarter ends instead of holding on, which means instead of the Blue Devils having possession to start the 4th, it'll now be a face-off. Still about 11 secs left on the EMO when play resumes. Duke still leading, 8-4.
 

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Fourth quarter underway. Kavanagh scores off a ground ball to make it 8-5 Duke with 13:42 left in the game.
 
EDIT - Will Haus gets called for a push, and it's another 30-sec EMO for the Irish with 11:18 left. 
 
EDIT - Perkovic with a ripper from 10 feet out for the hat trick, and suddenly it's a 2-goal game. Duke leads 8-6 with less than 11:00 to play.
 
EDIT - Wolf breaks a 12+ minute scoring drought for Duke and it's 9-6 with 9:56 to play.
 
EDIT - The Irish win the face-off and 5 secs later it's in the net. Liam O'Connor to the mighty mite Scioscia on the crease. 9:51 to play, and Duke leads 9-7. What a game this has turned into.
 
EDIT - ND with a huge ground ball pick-up. 8:40 left.
 
EDIT - Holy shit, yet ANOTHER shitty call favoring Duke. Solid man-to-man D by Notre Dame, but they call a push. And yet again it costs the Irish a ground-ball pickup and gives possession to the Blue Devils. I guess if it happens at Cameron Indoor it has to happen in every other Duke sport regardless of venue. Sadly, just as in hoops, the Duke Lax team doesn't really need that sort of help from the refs. Complete bullshit.
 
EDIT - Turnover by Duke with 6:40 left.  That's 3 in their last 3 possessions.
 
EDIT - Wow. Perkovic gets #4 with 5:00 on the clock. He charges in from the right, shoots low to high short-side, and it's a 9-8 game with Duke up by just a goal now. What a turnaround.
 

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The final 5:00 begins with Notre Dame on a 6-1 run. Duke with possession off the face-off.
 
EDIT - A Class shot goes wide, there's a ground ball, and the Irish get it. 3:40 left.
 
EDIT - Another loose ball off an Irish shot, and Jones has it. Under 3:00 to play as Duke milks the clock.
 
EDIT - And there's Keenan with the lefty high-to-low from 15 feet out off the feed from Wolf behind the net. Deflected in off Kelly. 10-8, Blue Devils with 2:39 to play. Time out Irish.
 
EDIT - Stat of the Day:
 
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Duke is 113-8 when scoring 10 or more goals. 
 
EDIT - Duke controls the face-off. WHAT A SAVE BY KELLY ON WOLF!! Holy crap!!
 
EDIT - Will Haus injured off the fast break by ND. Missed what happened, but he's being helped off with a very limp left leg. Hesitant to bend the knee at all.
 
EDIT - The Irish pull Kelly for the extra man with 1:57 left. Doyle forces the turnover for ND.
 
EDIT - Perkovic hits the right post with 1:30 left. Wow. So close.
 
EDIT - Another shot either saved by Aaron or off the post. 
 
EDIT - Duke only with 5 defenders off the failed clear and they didn't replace him. Play is re-started, but the refs grant the late time-out call to Duke anyway. Guess we know whose pockets they're in. Once again, this shit is totally unnecessary. Despite my hatred for Duke I have no horse in this race, but the Blue Devils are getting bailed out on their own incompetence. Fuck this shit. 1:06 to play.
 
EDIT - There's #5 for Perkovic, off the feed from Doyle behind the net following a missed shot, and it's 10-9 Duke with 49.6 secs to play. Holy shit.
 
EDIT - Fowler vs O'Connor on the biggest face-off of the season, and O'Connor wins it. The Irish pull Kelly again to double the ball, and Keenan calls a time-out. Coach Corrigan is ripshit with the refs, this time with the placement on the restart -- just one of numerous officiating issues he could be ripshit about today.
 
EDIT - Wolf will inbound for Duke with 30.5 seconds left.
 
EDIT - Credit to ESPN analyst Quint Kessenich, who called it to a T. From the right side, Wolf takes two steps left, then reverses right and sprints to the crease where he dumps in an empty-netter to put Duke up 11-9. Exactly the way QK said it would happen.
 
EDIT - And that'll do it. Blue Devils finish 17-3 as they repeat as national champions, and win their 3rd title in 5 years. For all the shit I gave the officials today, Duke deserves all the credit for responding in the wake of Josh Dionne's knee injury last week. O'Connor & Wolf did what needed to be done in the final 50 seconds. 
 
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Duke lacrosse becomes the sixth ACC men's program to win back-to-back NCAA championships.

 

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The others:  Wake golf (74-75), UNC lax (81-82) UVa soccer (91-94), Duke hoops (91-92) & FSU track (06-08*). FSU vacated the 2007 title.
 

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Who could have predicted this 8 year stretch of recruiting and winning post a canceled season and nearly canceled program. Wow.

Also, suck it ND.
 

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mabrowndog said:
 it's been the costs of recruiting.
 
 
I'm not sure this is a major contributing factor.  I believe lacrosse falls into the category of most if not all the other "non-major" sports (i.e., anything outside the traditional revenue sports: football and basketball).
 
For these sports, recruiting costs generally are minimal because it is the player (and usually their parent(s)) who are self-promoting by hiring professional videographers and marketing themselves through promotional tapes mailed directly to targeted schools/coaches.  The only expense borne by the school is the cost of extending an invitation for an official visit and paying for that trip.  At least that was the experience I went through with my daughter when she was "recruited" for a D1 equestrian scholarship.  I've heard several similar anecdotal stories from friends regarding soccer.  Of course, some sports have premier camps and the like where collegiate scouts can attend to get a consolidated view of multiple players at once, but even these recruiting efforts entail minimal costs.
 

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SoxJox said:
I'm not sure this is a major contributing factor.  I believe lacrosse falls into the category of most if not all the other "non-major" sports (i.e., anything outside the traditional revenue sports: football and basketball).
 
For these sports, recruiting costs generally are minimal because it is the player (and usually their parent(s)) who are self-promoting by hiring professional videographers and marketing themselves through promotional tapes mailed directly to targeted schools/coaches.  The only expense borne by the school is the cost of extending an invitation for an official visit and paying for that trip.  At least that was the experience I went through with my daughter when she was "recruited" for a D1 equestrian scholarship.  I've heard several similar anecdotal stories from friends regarding soccer.  Of course, some sports have premier camps and the like where collegiate scouts can attend to get a consolidated view of multiple players at once, but even these recruiting efforts entail minimal costs.
 
You may be right on the extent to which it's a factor (or non-factor), but my main point there was that for schools like Denver & Air Force on the men's side (and now Colorado on the women's side) they can now find talented lax players right in their own back yard because of the sport's growth at the youth and HS levels in and around Denver. And the proliferation of localized talent in the mountain & west regions is only going to increase, making it more likely that schools in those regions will add lacrosse at some point.
 
The bold is what took place for my niece with many schools, but from what I'm told the women's coach at Colorado did travel to the Eastern seaboard to scout and recruit various players, and not just at the premier camps. She also has ties to Hingham MA (where my niece grew up and played), so there was some familiarity with the system and coaching styles under which my niece developed her game. But my brother and his wife didn't hire any videographers or promotional marketers. They certainly invested plenty of money (and time) traipsing all over the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic regions for her travel team games, tournaments, and the camps, but they didn't have to do much else to attract attention from coaches. For the most part, interested schools and staffers reached out to them, and not always at the premier camps. And the interest at each location came primarily from schools somewhat close to whatever site she happened to be playing at.
 

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You may be right on the extent to which it's a factor (or non-factor), but my main point there was that for schools like Denver & Air Force on the men's side (and now Colorado on the women's side) they can now find talented lax players right in their own back yard because of the sport's growth at the youth and HS levels in and around Denver. And the proliferation of localized talent in the mountain & west regions is only going to increase, making it more likely that schools in those regions will add lacrosse at some point.
 
The bold is what took place for my niece with many schools, but from what I'm told the women's coach at Colorado did travel to the Eastern seaboard to scout and recruit various players, and not just at the premier camps. She also has ties to Hingham MA (where my niece grew up and played), so there was some familiarity with the system and coaching styles under which my niece developed her game. But my brother and his wife didn't hire any videographers or promotional marketers. They certainly invested plenty of money (and time) traipsing all over the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic regions for her travel team games, tournaments, and the camps, but they didn't have to do much else to attract attention from coaches. For the most part, interested schools and staffers reached out to them, and not always at the premier camps. And the interest at each location came primarily from schools somewhat close to whatever site she happened to be playing at.
Good points all.  And, as you say, the growth of the sport itself will have tremendous benefits for all parties - and fans.
 
What I do find interesting though, on an anecdotal excursion of my own, is the chuckles that I have enjoyed listening to all the parents gush profusely about how their boy is going to get a scholarship.  I swear it seems near 100% of the parents in the stands obsess on the notion.
 
I'm just happy that both my alma maters - Penn State and Denver, are enjoying success.  It's all good.
 

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Thanks All. Appreciate the back story on what's up in lax here in the West. As Sox Jox's scholarship story above, an interesting and sobering statistic I saw recently about the total number of scholarships in college athletics v the number of student athletes out there in high school and post secondary schools.  Something to keep in mind the next time you hear someone talk about their kid getting a full boat to State U to play a sport.  According to a study published by the NCAA, about 2 % of all current high school and prep school players will receive a soprts related scholarship, which translates to less than 1 per school per year.....pretty bad odds.
 
 
I couldn;t get the site to paste into this thread.....sorry for hijacking it. But a good discussion point now that college sports are basically in the offseason.
 

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berniecarbo1 said:
Thanks All. Appreciate the back story on what's up in lax here in the West. As Sox Jox's scholarship story above, an interesting and sobering statistic I saw recently about the total number of scholarships in college athletics v the number of student athletes out there in high school and post secondary schools.  Something to keep in mind the next time you hear someone talk about their kid getting a full boat to State U to play a sport.  According to a study published by the NCAA, about 2 % of all current high school and prep school players will receive a soprts related scholarship, which translates to less than 1 per school per year.....pretty bad odds.
 
I couldn;t get the site to paste into this thread.....sorry for hijacking it. But a good discussion point now that college sports are basically in the offseason.
 
Not only that, but the overwhelming majority of sports scholarships are merely partial subsidies, not full rides.
 
There really are a shitload of warped expectations in the American parenting community.