soxfan121 said:
Not bad for a guy who was going to be fired by the Bye week prior to the season.
2013 Jets: Rex back for 2014
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Not bad for a guy who was going to be fired by the Bye week prior to the season.
Those poor Jets, they never catch a break, two games won decided by penalties, now this.
Not sure how much longer their diehard fans can hang in there, 43 years and counting.
Just saw this guy's mother on the news here... She says that you don't punch a girl or woman in the face... but at some point you have to defend yourself...which makes it ok to punch a woman in the face...soxhop411 said:
This interview took place on the son's Jets party bus.
Edit: She also said something to the effect that if he'd really wanted to punch her she wouldn't still be standing.
Nothing confirmed, but TGG and Jets Twitter are alive with rumors of a pick + Kyle Wilson for Josh Gordon (or 2 picks for Gordon).
Partly fueled by Cimini's report that Jets have tried out a number of CBs including Ras-I Dowling: https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/392774448618553344:
"#Jets worked out a few CBs today, including Ras-I Dowling (Patriots) and Curtis Marsh (Eagles, Bengals), per source."
Come on Idzik -- playoffs are just staring you in your face!*
* CB tryouts most likely to backup Milliner have nothing to do with any trade rumors
Partly fueled by Cimini's report that Jets have tried out a number of CBs including Ras-I Dowling: https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/392774448618553344:
"#Jets worked out a few CBs today, including Ras-I Dowling (Patriots) and Curtis Marsh (Eagles, Bengals), per source."
Come on Idzik -- playoffs are just staring you in your face!*
* CB tryouts most likely to backup Milliner have nothing to do with any trade rumors
Sign Dowling and bring in Gordon for a #2 and #3.
That would be a fantastic move Idzik. Seriously. Do it right now.
That would be a fantastic move Idzik. Seriously. Do it right now.
Kyle Wilson!? Why the fuck would Cleveland want Kyle Wilson? I'm not really sure the Jets are the right fit for Gordon, unless they are willing to shell out the money. Gordon also had to be considered a high risk for holdout after this season, particularly if he is traded and has a great half season.
Ed Hillel said:
That's got to be a jets fan delusion. People think sucky high draft picks have value but they don't.
Speaking of shitty high draft picks with no value, the Jets signed Ras-I to their practice squad.
Stitch01 said:
Butler was put in a position to fail - both by new England and by Carolina - by not playing to his strengths. His quickness, lateral agility, and hips, all screamed "slot corner!", but the team's rarely played him there. He was painfully over matched on the outside. He wasn't big enough, strong enough, or fast enough, to compete at LCB or RCB. He's excelled in his new role as a slot corner, and given his attributes and strengths, that shouldn't surprise anyone. I even said as much back in 2010 when I started using this screen name.
Dowling, on the other hand, has shown zero propensity to stay on the field. When he is on the field, we've seen no signs that he is a competent cornerback.
So I think the move is "funny" because he sucks and it's the billionth time the Jets have picked up a former Patriots player from the junk pile.
The Dowling signing is funny because according to the twitter he's on the bike at Jets practice today.
Ed Hillel said:
Holding out is not a significant risk. Current CBA prohibits re-negotiations of drafted rookie contracts until after the player's third season.
Otto said:
The renegotiations with non-first round QBs are going to be a trip. If I'm Dalton or CK I'm only going to sign an absurd deal after this season, because the worst case is you're franchised for life altering money with a reasonably low risk of long-term injury at your position, or you're a free agent as a young QB with playoff experience.
The Bengals are pretty much the worst match up for this Jets team. A good downfield passing attack, and great run D just entirely nullify the strengths of the Jets on both sides and force them out of their game. They had to cover on D and throw the ball on O, and they looked real bad doing it.
I think I'd quibble with Chicago and Detroit/Dallas could both be on or off. It's about a third of the league by that definition. The Pats have played 2 of those teams, yielding a 1-1 record. I'm not sure other teams on that list have had on average a tougher road.
I agree. Depending on how the next couple weeks go, you might argue San Diego too. In any case, it's a third of the League. That's why our injuries are such a bitch. Denver also is half a team, though it's one hell of a half.ragnarok725 said:
ragnarok725 said:
A team without a good pass defense isn't competitive in today's NFL. Yes, the Jets can (barely, and with ref help) beat a team like the Pats with NE's inferior passing attack. But while you can get by with a poor run defense, as good as the Jets' interior D is it doesn't really matter much against most good NFL teams. Not with how the league favors passing now. With Milliner sucking, Cromartie looking old, and the safeties more run stoppers than coverage guys, that pass defense won't be easily fixed.
I'm actually more down on the Jets than I was earlier in the season. It seemed to me then that they could transition pretty quickly: build on a stout defense, a decent OL, and a QB in Smith who I think should be good in a few years -- just get a playmaker or two to help out Smith and they'd be pretty good in a short time. But now I see too many holes on the defense for there to be a quick turnaround.
jon abbey said:
Great win for the Jets. Runs the dreaded Pats-Bengals-Saints gauntlet with an unbelievable 2-1 record. Currently sitting at 5-4 and right in line for the 2nd WC spot.
SeoulSoxFan said:
And a -31 point differential.
A good bit of their up and down play is due to normal homer/road splits, 4-1 at home and 1-3 on the road. The one home loss was to PIT, who was desperate for a win at 0-4 and coming off a bye while NY was playing a short week after a Monday night game.
Great D after going down 14-6 today, the INT by Cromartie towards the end of the second quarter was huge.
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jon abbey said:
And a -31 point differential.
Speaking of point differential, the 2013 Jets can lay claim to having the worst point differential of any team to hold a winning record after 9 games. Of course, losing 49-9 to the Bengals sways that number quite a bit. That said, their 5 wins are by a total of 19 points, including a one point win thanks to a lucky personal foul by the Bucs, a two point win where the Falcons blew two 4th-and-1 chances on the goalline, and of course the Pats game where the NFL admitted that the refs selectively enforced a new FG rule. They're much closer to being a bottom feeder than a true contender.
They aren't a good team. They're a plucky team that's W-L record is better than their talent level. The linked article implies that their remaining schedule is soft, but I'm not convinced this Jets team is any better than the Bills, Ravens, Dolphins, or Browns. And they're definitely not as good as the Panthers. The only team left on their schedule that they should clearly beat is the Raiders. And this is still the NFL, so that really isn't "clear" at all.
This team is schizophrenic. Beating some genuinely good teams, getting absolutely destroyed by some mediocre to bad ones. At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if they finished with 10 wins, nor would it surprise me if they didn't win another game this year. Anything is on the table with them.
I hate to give him credit, but Rex is doing a good job with this team. He has no receivers to work with, a rookie QB and he is somehow winning games.
I know Revis got paid and thats apparently all he cares about, but I have to think that on some level he's gotta be kicking himself for leaving a Rex coached defense in NY to go get staph infections with Greg Schiano in Tampa Bay.
NatetheGreat said:
I'd characterize it more like this -- if you play a team that can stop the run without extra men in the box, then you can stop the Jets.
If you allow constant positive yardage running the game, you could be had. The reason why Bengals stomped them was because they absolutely manhandled the Jets OL.
Anytime Geno has to win the game, Jets are in trouble. That's why I give Buffalo more than a decent shot to "upset" the playoff-talking Jets.
NatetheGreat said:
I highly doubt that -- he's got a recurring 1-year option deals that pays him a $16m year salary. He wasn't going to get that with the Jets.
SeoulSoxFan said:
No, he definitely wasn't. But he would have still gotten a big contract. We aren't comparing a massive deal to peanuts here, more like a massive deal to a slightly less massive deal...and the massive deal requires that you play for Greg Schiano, which is increasingly looking like the NFL's version of hell.
jon abbey said:
I agree with that, but the rest of his roster is still pretty crappy. And without Revis his corners are probably worse and he really needs those for his pressure system.
Their schedule the back half the season is pretty cupcake, if they can beat bad teams.
@BUF
@BAL
MIA
OAK
@CAR
@CLE
@MIA
@BUF
@BAL
MIA
OAK
@CAR
@CLE
@MIA
NortheasternPJ said:
Is it? I mean, Carolina is looking very good right now. Cleveland has been very competitive all year. Miami is a mess but not without talent and only .5 game behind the Jets and Baltimore is a tough place to play.
NortheasternPJ said:
Which are the bad teams? More specifically, which are the bad teams that have no chance of beating the Jets if the Jets have a bad week?
@ Buffalo is not a cakewalk - ask the Chiefs who needed TUEL TIME and two defensive TDs to escape.
@ Baltimore is probably a loss, despite Baltimore being an up & down team all season.
Home to Miami ... pass for now. No idea what's gonna happen to Miami in the wake of the Incognito-Martin kerfluffle.
Home to Oakland would seem to be a win, but stranger things have happened and Terrelle Pryor makes plays.
@ Carolina is probably a loss. It might be a loss for the Patriots, as well.
@ Cleveland is a tough game against a very good defense.
@ Miami...no idea.
Which are the bad teams again?
Road games for the Jets have been, mostly, terrible performances. If that holds, only the Buffalo and/or Miami games are "winnable", as Baltimore, Carolina and Cleveland look decent - not bad. Two home games are probably wins...unless Miami doesn't collapse in the wake of their scandal AND if Terrelle Pryor doesn't pull a rabbit out of his ass.
0-7? Possible. 7-0? Possible. 2-5? Likely. 5-2? Unlikely, but possible.
IOW, nobody knows nothing.
Cleveland is a home game (they have three left at home, 4 on the road vs. 2 and 5 which seemed off).
Nonetheless, more away games than home games is big for a team that has looked much stronger at home than on the road.
Nonetheless, more away games than home games is big for a team that has looked much stronger at home than on the road.
soxfan121 said:
No kidding.
We saw that the Jets can struggle against good defenses, and Baltimore, Miami (2), Carolina, Cleveland could all pose real problems. Hell, Buffalo is no cake walk either.
If Reed does indeed sign with the Jets, he will be the worst PFF rated S (-6.3) for the Jets by quite a margin.
As a free safety, he'll also be backing up Antonio Allen when he comes back from having concussions.
Edit: now it's official.
As a free safety, he'll also be backing up Antonio Allen when he comes back from having concussions.
Edit: now it's official.
SeoulSoxFan said:
Smart move for the Jets. Very low risk...potentially moderate reward. I think Belichick can run circles around RR, but on this one, I think it was a good move by Rex and Co.