20 years since the Jay Payton signing

[bosockboy]

IYKYK

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=1950429

 

[Homar]

I never understood why he signed here, when he so obviously did not want to be here. One of life's great and enduring mysteries.

 

[Philip Jeff Frye]

Time flies. Seems like it was only yesterday that I heard the news!

 

[trekfan55]

This was the funniest gag on SOSH for the longest time. I was corrected a few times too.

 

[Timduhda]

This was the funniest gag on SOSH for the longest time. I was corrected a few times too.

I wasn’t on SOSH at the time, what was the gag?

 

[Salem's Lot]

I wasn’t on SOSH at the time, what was the gag?

It was a big deal. Payton (righty IMO) bitched about playing time, and SOSH posters reacted “why did he sign here?” When in reality, he was traded to the Red Sox.

 

[LogansDad]

It was a big deal. Payton (righty IMO) bitched about playing time, and SOSH posters reacted “why did he sign here?” When in reality, he was traded to the Red Sox.

I miss those days.

 

[Whoop-La White]

You mean 20 years since they got a 3-player haul for Dave Roberts.

 

[reggiecleveland]

I am not looking this up didn't he get a hit off Randy Johnson to drive in the only run in his first game and they do something like 0-12 after that.

 

[Strike4]

This was the funniest gag on SOSH for the longest time. I was corrected a few times too.

I think about it surprisingly often. It's up there with "do you wash your legs in the shower".

 

[tims4wins]

I think about it surprisingly often. It's up there with "do you wash your legs in the shower".

Gonna need more info on this one. Do not recall.

 

[tims4wins]

I am not looking this up didn't he get a hit off Randy Johnson to drive in the only run in his first game and they do something like 0-12 after that.

I looked it up for you, nearly correct, the Sox lost 9-2 but he did drive in the first run in his first at bat. The Sox scored their only other run in the 9th.

The 0-12 is inaccurate though, he had a fine start, .905 OPS through his first 15 PA (obviously SSS), then slumped badly for a while (.420 OPS over 52 PA), then bounced back with a .926 OPS over his final 77 PAs before the trade to Oakland. He was decent for Oakland too until he went 0-17 to end the season.

 

[Yelling At Clouds]

It was a big deal. Payton (righty IMO) bitched about playing time, and SOSH posters reacted “why did he sign here?” When in reality, he was traded to the Red Sox.

*Pushes glasses up nose* It was actually the old Boston Dirt Dogs guy who wrote that on his site, the SoSH joke I think grew from people dunking on him. I was just a lurker in those days though so I might be wrong.

 

[nayrbrey]

*Pushes glasses up nose* It was actually the old Boston Dirt Dogs guy who wrote that on his site, the SoSH joke I think grew from people dunking on him. I was just a lurker in those days though so I might be wrong.

Yes this is what I recall as well. It was everyone dunking on someone. If it was Silva all the better.

 

[trekfan55]

Yes this is what I recall as well. It was everyone dunking on someone. If it was Silva all the better.

Yeah, but it grew. At some point I made the joke and got like two responses (looked serious) as to “he did not sign here, he was traded”.

Plus I understand his attitude was so bad Tito did not want him in the bus, or plane back home.

 

[Doug Beerabelli]

Why do people continue to get this mixed up?

I blame Lugo

 

[mwonow]

Why do people continue to get this mixed up?

I blame Lugo

Still, and any time the suck creeps into something I care about. Baseball, sure, but not only baseball...

 

[Van Everyman]

Not that we’re trying to actually remember facts here but Speier wrote about the Payton Imbroglio when Cora first returned to town in 2018:

One night earlier, fourth outfielder Jay Payton initially refused to enter the late innings of a Red Sox victory in Texas.

“He said, ‘I’m not going in,’ ” recalled bench coach Brad Mills. “I said, ‘We need you in,’ and he said it again, ‘I’m not going in.’ ”

That precipitated a dugout blowup between Payton and manager Terry Francona.

“Jay just wasn’t happy in that role. It had kind of come to a head,” recalled Francona. “[GM Theo Epstein] was trying to move him, and then we had that issue in the dugout. I called Theo and was like, ‘Theo, I think I might have forced your hand a little.’ ”

Payton was designated for assignment in the wake of one of the most brazen in-game challenges that Francona endured in his Red Sox tenure. Yet even with Payton’s departure, Cora discovered that there was an ongoing unsettled sense.

Key contributors — Kevin Millar and Bellhorn among them — to the World Series run were seeing their playing time dwindle due to poor performance. Keith Foulke had just undergone surgery. Curt Schilling was getting ready to move to the bullpen with his ankle still recovering from post-bloody-sock surgery. Some members of the Red Sox fuming that Francona had “failed” to use his position as the manager of the AL team to name his own players — foremost, reliever Mike Timlin — to the All-Star Game.

It’s kind of comedy at this point how unpleasant every year after we’ve won it all has been.

 

[Rasputin]

*Pushes glasses up nose* It was actually the old Boston Dirt Dogs guy who wrote that on his site, the SoSH joke I think grew from people dunking on him. I was just a lurker in those days though so I might be wrong.

Is the RSDD blowout thread still around in the archives somewhere? That was some funny shit.

 

[nayrbrey]

I don’t know about the RSDD thread but the “Payton asks Sox for a trade” thread is still accessible on the TapaTalk back door:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonsofsamhorn/payton-asks-sox-for-trade-t58-s180.html

 

[Erik Hanson's Hook]

Nvm

 

[tims4wins]

Not that we’re trying to actually remember facts here but Speier wrote about the Payton Imbroglio when Cora first returned to town in 2018:


It’s kind of comedy at this point how unpleasant every year after we’ve won it all has been.

I don't recall 2008 as being unpleasant?

 

[E5 Yaz]

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonsofsamhorn/payton-asks-sox-for-trade-t58-s180.html

What a wonderful meandering thread

Why would the Red Sox want to give up Adam Stern for Pokey friggin Reese?

 

[pedro1918]

This thread reminds me of the time Danny Ainge bit Tree Rollins‘ finger.

 

[mwonow]

Or maybe when Tree went to court to talk about how ML scared him?

I think the biting went the other way.

 

[E5 Yaz]

I think the biting went the other way.

Thanks Ben

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

Thanks Ben

Recalibration time?

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

I don’t know about the RSDD thread but the “Payton asks Sox for a trade” thread is still accessible on the TapaTalk back door:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/sonsofsamhorn/payton-asks-sox-for-trade-t58-s180.html

I had forgotten about DJnVa's animated bug avatar. I loved and hated that thing.

 

[Bernie Carbohydrate]

Fascinating that SoSH had so much faith in Adam Stern.