Tatum's arm was extended and pushing off Pope at the same time. Why are you ignoring this?So you think it's ok for someone to shove someone out of bounds going for a loose ball? Because that's what was happening as Tatum fell out of bounds.
The fact that all of those calls went the Lakers way is the problem in this close of a game.
#2 has probably been the worst effect of replay since it started in the NBA. Everyone had an agreement that you can go over the back and the refs won’t call a foul but they will give the ball to the team with inside position 100% of the time and you don’t get to complain about it.ESPN headline: "LeBron comes up clutch late."
Yeah, he hit a tough fadeaway, after:
1. He bricked the eight-zillionth clutch FT of his career
2. AD went over the back on the bricked FT, a play that happens all the time, and almost always go to the other team, even if they were technically the ones who touched it last
3. AD tipped the ball out of bounds
4. A ten-minute review showed AD tipped the ball out of bounds
5. The ball was given back to Lakers
we didn’t need slo mo to see that Davis went over the back—you saw that live just like I did!It was obvious hyperbole. Replay showed the clear foul but no I don't agree about the refs garbage down the stretch part as I posted above with the exception of the Brad T. They are required to go to replay in the final 2 minutes on those plays where there isn't certainty and we needed multiple super slo-mo's to see whose fingertip the ball went off.
1. Meh, game speed very close. I could see it going either way. They choose neither and allowed the play to continue.the out of bounds play was clearly incorrect—both on the foul that went uncalled and the last to touch. You can’t dispute that, can you? Even if Theis fouled Davis it’s well after Davis committed the initial foul...that’s what makes it so bad. That was biggest call in the game and badly blown.
The Tatum-Pope play was closer, I think you’d rarely see Tatums contact called and usually would see Pope’s called because it interfered with Tatum’s ability to get to the ball. But that one is not nearly as egregious.
The last play was just comical—which is why players on both teams were laughing at it. But it didn’t matter.
the T on Stevens was obviously a joke
The Davis rebound one simply isn’t close—watch a replay. He climbs up Browns back and literally knocks his upper body over. There is no interpretation of the rules that isn’t a foul.1. Meh, game speed very close. I could see it going either way. They choose neither and allowed the play to continue.
2. Tatum-Pope was a foul on both but like the Davis play they allowed it to play out. I don't see how you can call a foul there and if you do it's 50-50 as to who the foul is on.
3. The last play IMO was the "most correct" call after seeing the replay. I don't know how this can even be disputed but it is a Celtics fans board so I get that.
4. Agreed on the Brad T.
Tatum is good but not good enough to go 4 on 5Refs aside, the Celtics missed more than a couple open layups which cost them. Result aside, this team is proving itself each and every night now that they are a legitimate contender to come out of the East and possibly win a championship. Tatum/Walker/Brown/Tatum/Theis/Smart/Hayward is a very, very good top 7 and can match it with any team in the NBA size or no size.
Spring at TD Garden is going to be fucking fun.
Also it's consistently called OOB for the team who is boxing out all of the time in the NBA..even if there was a little touch. I think there's less/any evidence to show it went off Brown which is also frustrating. The original call should have been C's ball and they could have overturned it to give it to the Lakers.. the fact that they called it initially for the Lakers made it so they couldn't overturn it when there was so little evidence.The Davis rebound one simply isn’t close—watch a replay. He climbs up Browns back and literally knocks his upper body over. There is no interpretation of the rules that isn’t a foul.
I get that when you have 5 inches on a guy refs pause and wonder if it was clean. But that one wasn’t
Yeah this one was less egregious but Tatum is also trying to maintain balance while going out of bounds..Tatum's arm was extended and pushing off Pope at the same time. Why are you ignoring this?
Well, there was also the time they called Jaylen out of bounds when he wasn't, or the goaltend against the LAL that was taken off the board or the ball that was clearly off Davis that wasn't overturned.....I dunno man. Seems like the only call that I felt was clearly wrong was the T on Brad.
Jaylen's on LeBron was soft but def came down on his shooting arm. Tatum and Pope going after loose ball with both pushing off was the correct no-call and the offensive foul on Tatum the replay showed was also obvious and correct.
It should never be one guy, but I had such high hopes for Edwards to be a plug-n-play player right from the jump. You just wonder if he can adjust to the speed and length of the pro game, because I thought he'd be impactful immediately for the c's.Celtics got 11 points out of their bench.
Basically what it comes down to for me: Can’t have literally ever 50/50 call go against you in tight game and win most times. NBA refs just ruin the entire experience.the thing is 50/50 calls should be called 50/50.
On the road you can understand 60/40
But in the NBA's showcase, between 2 of the best teams in the league, game on the line, we got a 1-way street.
I think the officiating was consistent with any close Celtics game refereed by Marc Davis. Davis was going to do as much as it took for the Celtics to lose. A handful of awful calls was not coincidental.Can you expand on this? It was a two point loss on the road without Kemba in a poorly officiated game.
The missed 4-footer and layup by Hayward were what stuck in my mind after the game. He's close to being "right" but still not quite there.bad shooting nights from Brown, Hayward and Smart. Not much from the bench, Wanamaker was awful. and Kemba couldn't pull it out for Team Giannis. Lakers win by 2
The much, much bigger story is Tatum and the leap the Jays are making. By playoff time this team will be at another level. #championshipmaterial
Talk about your small sample sizes. Guy has generally been great lately but miss a couple of easy shots and that's all anybody cares about.The missed 4-footer and layup by Hayward were what stuck in my mind after the game. He's close to being "right" but still not quite there.
Hey, I said "stuck in my mind" not "get him outta here!" but, yeah, I fully acknowledge he has been better of late. Last night, a lot of guys did what they had to do and I did not think Hayward did. No big deal as it is only one game.Talk about your small sample sizes. Guy has generally been great lately but miss a couple of easy shots and that's all anybody cares about.
I don't think that has anything to do with being right, I think that's just a dude missing an easy shot.The missed 4-footer and layup by Hayward were what stuck in my mind after the game. He's close to being "right" but still not quite there.
Yeah. And the part of the missed 4-footer earlier in the 4th that stuck with me is the fact that he made a great move to get open. Just missed the shot that he normally makes.I don't think that has anything to do with being right, I think that's just a dude missing an easy shot.