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I think a part of it is comparing this approach to basically every other good coach in the league. Maybe he's cracked the code, but seems unlikely?
I would really like to see these comparisons to good coaches in the league. Do people correlate to winning or what stems runs? There is a lot to unpack here.
 

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You don't need "back cuts or 3s" here, Doris. You need to run the shot clock down.
 

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The NBA has a BIG officiating problem. The two reviews from the past two games are insanity.
 

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its amazing. In the nfl you can at least understand the interpretation even if it’s dumb/wrong.

nba regularly concludes something inconsistent with the video itself
I agree, it’s rare for NFL replay calls to be as bad as what I almost see regularly in the NBA.
 

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Work on his ability to make in game adjustments before he gets out coached in the playoffs.
I am just asking for concrete examples of what Mazzulla has cost this team. Should they be undefeated? Are they a 50 win team that is being held back by timeouts. What is optimal timeout usage for this team? Where in runs should they be called?

All I am asking is for people pointing out where the issue is with concrete examples. Its not really evident in their results.
 

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Tatum goes 3 for 16 and they still win handily. This team is deeper than Sartre multiplied by Kierkegaard.
 

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Did they pretend that review never happened because the clock read 2:01, and they weren’t supposed to review it unless it hit the 2 minute mark?
 

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I am just asking for concrete examples of what Mazzulla has cost this team. Should they be undefeated? Are they a 50 win team that is being held back by timeouts. What is optimal timeout usage for this team? Where in runs should they be called?

All I am asking is for people pointing out where the issue is. Its not really evident in their results.
At the same time, will you hold him in any part responsible if they lose or just entirely blame players missing shots? I feel like you're asking for the impossible while putting no blame on coaching ever under this standard. I don't think anyone dislikes the guy, it's just a minor critique.
 

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Tatum with a crappy offensive game, no Jaylen, no Smart, no Brogdon. And a W. Excellent.
 

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At the same time, will you hold him in any part responsible if they lose or just entirely blame players missing shots? I feel like you're asking for the impossible while putting no blame on coaching ever under this standard.
Mazzulla isn't accountable to me but yeah, if I saw him doing something off coachingwise I would certainly call it out. I just don't see the problem and aside from vague complaints that happen during runs - and everyone here watches enough NBA to know runs happen every single game - nobody can show harm.

And lots of bad stuff can happen in the playoffs. But worrying that the C's will suddenly start losing because of timeouts seems silly. Furthermore, again I trust that the coaching staff isn't on an island and that the front-office/stats department works with them on timeouts etc regularly.
 

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Actually, they changed it to 2:01 after they said it was a violation. Which means in theory they couldn’t have reviewed it I guess.
 

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At the same time, will you hold him in any part responsible if they lose or just entirely blame players missing shots? I feel like you're asking for the impossible while putting no blame on coaching ever under this standard. I don't think anyone dislikes the guy, it's just a minor critique.
You are right, concrete examples are impossible. But how much better than "best record in the league" would they be if the coach was doing these things you think he should be doing? Hell, how much better *could* they be?
 

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White and Hauser hitting their open 3s completely changes the offensive ceiling of this team. They can have games missing 2 starters (and their 6th man), with their best player having a lousy game offensively, and still get an arms length win over one of the best teams in the west. If those 2 guys are hitting their looks in the spring and Tatum is healthy, watch out.
 

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Grant was tremendous in the fourth quarter, just wanted it more than anybody else.
 

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This isn't really in response to the Mazzulla question(s), but just parsing through the Celts schedule, I think their "best case season" would have 3 or 4 more wins than it does right now:

- They lost twice to Cleveland in a 5 day span. Cleveland is good. Both were OT games. But I'd expect a split there
- They lost 3 straight home games to Orlando (2) + Indiana (1). I'd expect at least 2 wins at home against those teams
- Home loss vs. Knicks in OT (which was after a 13 point loss at Orlando and a 3 point loss at Miami). Celts are 1-3 against Orlando

They're 41-16. So maybe 44-13, 45-12.
 

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White and Hauser hitting their open 3s completely changes the offensive ceiling of this team. They can have games missing 2 starters (and their 6th man), with their best player having a lousy game offensively, and still get an arms length win over one of the best teams in the west. If those 2 guys are hitting their looks in the spring and Tatum is healthy, watch out.
the Celtic's size helped overwhelm them. 54-34 rebounding edge

the C's closed with TL/Horford/Grant/Tatum/White. Punishing
 

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Grant was tremendous in the fourth quarter, just wanted it more than anybody else.
Loved seeing that from him after a couple of quiet games offensively (thought he did good work defensively against Embiid in the 6ers game).

As much as injuries suck, it's been really good for the full group to continue to answer the call. The Celtics are an incredibly deep, resilient team.

Memphis really misses Adams.
 

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I am just asking for concrete examples of what Mazzulla has cost this team. Should they be undefeated? Are they a 50 win team that is being held back by timeouts. What is optimal timeout usage for this team? Where in runs should they be called?

All I am asking is for people pointing out where the issue is with concrete examples. Its not really evident in their results.
You're demanding a proof that does not exist. A lot of fans, writers etc have noted CJMs practice of not using TOs in a traditional manner. A manner that has been established by decades of coaches calling TOs to stem runs. We have been conditioned.
CJM has said he likes to let the players work it out. And sometimes they do successfully. But to note CJMs break from accepted practice is neither unusual nor a big deal, but rather a fans perogative to complain about a 12 pt run and a lost lead. And that we have seen a lot of. Whether it pays dividends in the long term is not known, nor if it does we will ever really know.
 

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View: https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1624887735558307849

Joe Mazzulla called this Celtics team “one of the best locker rooms I’ve ever been around” and said that’s a big part of how Boston has managed to keep piling up wins while so many guys have missed time.

View: https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1624886921250873346

Joe Mazzulla told Mike Muscala to cherish Celtics locker room when got here since it's such a great group.

View: https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/1624888463299342336

Robert Williams on Mike Muscala: “Sniper gang.”
 

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This isn't really in response to the Mazzulla question(s), but just parsing through the Celts schedule, I think their "best case season" would have 3 or 4 more wins than it does right now:

- They lost twice to Cleveland in a 5 day span. Cleveland is good. Both were OT games. But I'd expect a split there
- They lost 3 straight home games to Orlando (2) + Indiana (1). I'd expect at least 2 wins at home against those teams
- Home loss vs. Knicks in OT (which was after a 13 point loss at Orlando and a 3 point loss at Miami). Celts are 1-3 against Orlando

They're 41-16. So maybe 44-13, 45-12.
Do they get to keep the short-handed wins over Philly & Memphis, two supposed title contenders?
 

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You're demanding a proof that does not exist. A lot of fans, writers etc have noted CJMs practice of not using TOs in a traditional manner. A manner that has been established by decades of coaches calling TOs to stem runs. We have been conditioned.
CJM has said he likes to let the players work it out. And sometimes they do successfully. But to note CJMs break from accepted practice is neither unusual nor a big deal, but rather a fans perogative to complain about a 12 pt run and a lost lead. And that we have seen a lot of. Whether it pays dividends in the long term is not known, nor if it does we will ever really know.
To me the onus needs to be on people complaining to demonstrate harm. Is that really unreasonable when addressing a complaint?