'19-'20 Warriors: who's left?

nattysez

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I thought 3/$15 was low, but Strauss had it nailed.

Based on my survey of salary cap aficionados, general managers and other basketball ops workers, I believe the Warriors will still be getting a bargain if Looney re-signs this summer. The responses were remarkably consistent. Every person I asked listed a figure in the $3 million to $5 million range. Even if the aforementioned market forces make such an affordable deal understandable, anything in that range seems like a win for the Warriors. Factor in how Looney has shown recent flashes of a mid-range game and there’s even more reason to like a multi-year deal at those prices.
 

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Just turned 23, 7-4 wingspanned switchable big, credible handles and jump shot (miles better than, say, Tristan Thompson ever had) #27 ranked player in the NBA by RPM, .636 true shooting last year (.704 in the playoffs). Was by far the Warriors best player last year outside of Hamptons Five.


3 years / $15M. GJGE, NBA GMs.
 

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That's a great deal. A remarkable misread of the Looeny market as well by the "chattering class" on Twitter, who expected him to get double that contract or more.
 

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Just turned 23, 7-4 wingspanned switchable big, credible handles and jump shot (miles better than, say, Tristan Thompson ever had) #27 ranked player in the NBA by RPM, .636 true shooting last year (.704 in the playoffs). Was by far the Warriors best player last year outside of Hamptons Five.


3 years / $15M. GJGE, NBA GMs.
That’s one of the better deals in FA so far. I saw a report that his agent said the Celtics never even reached out to him, and I figured it was because they thought he’d be out of their price range. So unless he gave the Warriors a discount, seems like a inexplicable missed opportunity by Ainge.
 

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In a world where Bobby Portis can get $15.5M per year, what will Looney cost?
Quoting myself here, I guess, but wow. One year of Bobby Portis (or Terry Rozier) costs more than three years of Kevon Looney. Let that sink in for a minute.
 

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That’s one of the better deals in FA so far. I saw a report that his agent said the Celtics never even reached out to him, and I figured it was because they thought he’d be out of their price range. So unless he gave the Warriors a discount, seems like a inexplicable missed opportunity by Ainge.
Nah. It's all good. We got Kanter.
 

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That’s one of the better deals in FA so far. I saw a report that his agent said the Celtics never even reached out to him, and I figured it was because they thought he’d be out of their price range. So unless he gave the Warriors a discount, seems like a inexplicable missed opportunity by Ainge.
Well, the Celtics would have been able to offer at most roughly the same deal. It’s not that surprising that, faced with roughly similar deals, he would have chosen to stay with what he knows.
 

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Given Looney's contract, I can almost guarantee his hips are bad, probably impingement issues on the way to IT territory. He had earlier surgical intervention than IT so that might help, plus he doesn't rely on quickness as much as IT.

Still might be a good to great contract for the next 3 years, who knows. But there is almost no way that many GMs are dumb enough to not top that offer by quite a bit unless the medical staff had some input.
 

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That’s one of the better deals in FA so far. I saw a report that his agent said the Celtics never even reached out to him, and I figured it was because they thought he’d be out of their price range. So unless he gave the Warriors a discount, seems like a inexplicable missed opportunity by Ainge.
#1 rule in sales, you always make the call.

If this is true and the Agent felt like mentioning it:eek::eek::eek:

call up Bob Myers and offer Semi for Damian Jones...at least get the phone slammed down on you
 
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Just turned 23, 7-4 wingspanned switchable big, credible handles and jump shot (miles better than, say, Tristan Thompson ever had) #27 ranked player in the NBA by RPM, .636 true shooting last year (.704 in the playoffs). Was by far the Warriors best player last year outside of Hamptons Five.


3 years / $15M. GJGE, NBA GMs.
Checking on the RPM, the stat aligns with the eye test, by and large.
But from that stat sheet, Klay is a net negative?! 30th best shooting guard in the league? Negative defensive value? Bizarre.
 

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That’s one of the better deals in FA so far. I saw a report that his agent said the Celtics never even reached out to him, and I figured it was because they thought he’d be out of their price range. So unless he gave the Warriors a discount, seems like a inexplicable missed opportunity by Ainge.
Yahoo is saying the Celtics were interested.
 

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Checking on the RPM, the stat aligns with the eye test, by and large.
But from that stat sheet, Klay is a net negative?! 30th best shooting guard in the league? Negative defensive value? Bizarre.
Advanced stats don’t love Klay’s defense, with the usual explanation being that he has a bit of the Avery Bradley thing going on- he’s a great on-ball defender, which stands out to most people watching games, but not great with team defense, which hurts his overall impact. He also doesn’t generate a lot of steals/blocks, which is why he rates poorly in DBPM.
 

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https://twitter.com/Murf56/status/1145763865449443329

Dunno Mark Murphy, but his bio says he's longtime Herald reporter covering the Cs.
jeez. It's a pretty easy sales pitch:
1. Kevon you'll start day 1 in Boston (mention Jones started over him last season and Cousins is lurking)
2. Kevon you're the age of the guys we're building this team around, so you will be a major piece to our next Championship
3. Kevon you can decide on 1yr or 2y deal
4. Kevon thanks for considering the Boston Celtics...

120 second call...probably get told no thank you, but make the damn call.

I've seen some of the smartest people do some of the dumbest things. Nothing shocks me.


48hrs ago we were in pursuit, according to Shams... the reporting has been all over the place

 

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D’Angelo Russell is 8 months older than Jaylen Brown and the league’s savviest organization just placed a big bet on him. I think SoSH is seriously underrating Russell’s upside.
I love this signing for the Warriors and Russell’s did take a mammoth leap last year that coincided with him physically maturing. They fill Klay’s spot until he returns when they go small with a Steph-Russ-Klay-Dray-Looney and runs teams out of the building.

Best case it all works out and they are lethal.....worse case (barring injury) is Russell becomes an extremely valuable trade asset that has to return greater than an aging Iggy and a low 1st rounder. Plus they get to fill Klay’s minutes.
 
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jeez. It's a pretty easy sales pitch:
1. Kevon you'll start day 1 in Boston (mention Jones started over him last season and Cousins is lurking)
2. Kevon you're the age of the guys we're building this team around, so you will be a major piece to our next Championship
3. Kevon you can decide on 1yr or 2y deal
4. Kevon thanks for considering the Boston Celtics...

120 second call...probably get told no thank you, but make the damn call.

I've seen some of the smartest people do some of the dumbest things. Nothing shocks me.


48hrs ago we were in pursuit, according to Shams... the reporting has been all over the place

Wasn’t he an RFA? The amount GSW signed him for was about the most Boston could have offered, so possibly they figured it would just get matched and didn’t want to tie up the room.
 

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Wasn’t he an RFA? The amount GSW signed him for was about the most Boston could have offered, so possibly they figured it would just get matched and didn’t want to tie up the room.
I believe he became unrestricted on Sunday.
 

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Wasn’t he an RFA? The amount GSW signed him for was about the most Boston could have offered, so possibly they figured it would just get matched and didn’t want to tie up the room.
The Celtics have a bit more available if they send out Yabu.
 

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GSW add Willie Cauley-Stein and Glenn Robinson III today. They are both 25 -- still some potential upside for both. WCS in particular urged the Kings not to bring him back because he wanted a new start, so now he's got to prove himself.
 

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GSW withdraws their QO to Quinn Cook, making him an unrestricted FA.
I'm sure he'll land with a contender somewhere. Career 42% from 3.
 

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GSW withdraws their QO to Quinn Cook, making him an unrestricted FA.
I'm sure he'll land with a contender somewhere. Career 42% from 3.
I'm sure cap related, as he was an appreciated role player last season, with upside.
 

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GSW withdraws their QO to Quinn Cook, making him an unrestricted FA.
I'm sure he'll land with a contender somewhere. Career 42% from 3.
Sigh. Godspeed, Quinn. He was besties with KD; and with the acquisition of Russell and need to pinch every penny under the hard cap, the writing was on the wall. They also just signed Ky Bowman to a two-way contract. presumably as their Santa Cruz PG project / de facto Cook replacement. Any BC fans here with some thoughts on Bowman?
 

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Sigh. Godspeed, Quinn. He was besties with KD; and with the acquisition of Russell and need to pinch every penny under the hard cap, the writing was on the wall. They also just signed Ky Bowman to a two-way contract. presumably as their Santa Cruz PG project / de facto Cook replacement. Any BC fans here with some thoughts on Bowman?
I am not a BC fan but I liked what I saw of Ky in Summer League the other night. If he can improve his outside shot to make it NBA-credible, the Warriors may have found something.
 

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Livingston waived, bringing the GSW offseason casualty total to 10 (I think, though I may have lost count).

Kevin Durant (BKN)
Andre Iguodala (MEM)
Shaun Livingston
Andrew Bogut
Jonas Jerebko
DeMarcus Cousins (LAL)
Jordan Bell (MIN)
Quinn Cook (LAL)
Damian Jones (ATL)
Marcus Derrickson

Once the Durant domino fell, the writing was on the wall for a lot of these guys; and the hard cap that kicked in with the D'Angelo S/T sealed the deal for most of them.

I mean, I supported the D'Lo move, both for the max salary slot it deftly preserved and in pure hoops terms (23 y.o., 6'-10" wingspanned PG with upside who can both spell the Splash Bros and play alongside them). And in a lot of ways I'm looking forward to the fresh start, the infusion of youth (Curry now the elder statesman of the team at 31) and being the hunter instead of the hunted. But man, losing ten guys from the team is a lot for this fanboy to process emotionally. Andre and Shaun in particular were such an integral part of the soul and identity of the dynasty, both on and off court. Sigh.

I'll probably post on all the new additions shortly, but in the meantime, possibly my favorite SDot moment, from the 2018 WCF...