12/21 Kill Bambi

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At what point...say after the star game...do we get seriously concerned about gh. Because he is not improving
I’m already seriously concerned. The first 2 years of a max contract have been complete wastes for us. Gordon is trying his best but it may never happen. This may be all we get. He needs to at least shoot better.
 

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At what point...say after the star game...do we get seriously concerned about gh. Because he is not improving
Right now. Surprisingly, if you look at his stats, he’s not that far off his career numbers. But he’s obviously slower than he’s ever been and he’s absolutely struggling to fit into this system.
 

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It’s going to take Hayward much of the year to find his game like it did with Paul George.
And I think that’s fine. He shouldn’t be getting 30-35 minutes a game then. He should be getting 20 max. Like Rozier. He’s averaged 27 a game this season. Kyrie is 32. Tatum is 31. Al is 29. Then we have Hayward and Morris with 27. That’s broken.
 

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Right now. Surprisingly, if you look at his stats, he’s not that far off his career numbers. But he’s obviously slower than he’s ever been and he’s absolutely struggling to fit into this system.
I think that's the glass half full view of things. His "career" numbers include his rookie year, where he played 16 minutes a game, and his 2nd season where he played a lot of minutes but wasn't really involved, and was actually pretty bad.

His last season in Utah, he averaged 21.9ppg and he shot 47.1/39.8%. He's at 10.9 this year and he's shooting 41.4/34.3%.
 

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He’s a $30M role player. If we’re lucky, he’ll improve to being a $30M 4th option. It just really sucks.
 

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I think that's the glass half full view of things. His "career" numbers include his rookie year, where he played 16 minutes a game, and his 2nd season where he played a lot of minutes but wasn't really involved, and was actually pretty bad.

His last season in Utah, he averaged 21.9ppg and he shot 47.1/39.8%. He's at 10.9 this year and he's shooting 41.4/34.3%.
Yes. Good point. His prior three years in Utah he was always around 20ppg.
 

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I can see not using timeouts early in the 2nd half... but you don't let the Bucks go on a 20-0 run without calling a TO in the first half of a game
 

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There was a team meeting after the game.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25591263/boston-celtics-hold-much-needed-team-meeting-another-loss

"Much needed," Celtics guard Kyrie Irving said of the discussion. "Much needed.

"I think everyone can see that we've obviously had some inconsistencies regarding our play, so I think it was just time to address it."

The most pointed criticism of the team's recent play -- and the reasoning behind the meeting -- came from Irving, who repeatedly cited a lack of "cohesion" and said there has been "some selfish play" among his teammates.
 

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After reading the post-game stuff, this post by AimingforYoko seems a little less ridiculous than a few folks thought last night:

this is starting to feel carmelo and the thunder-ish and I do not like it

i know dudes are hurt but if there's a melo around you gotta get rid of him because melos do nothing but poison the room