12/19 - Stun the Suns

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I’m sure Memphis and Sacramento will both win tonight to complete the shitty night
 

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Frankly this game was over the second Marcus took the ball up court and jacked a 30 footer with 20 seconds on the shot clock.
They didn't have a lead the rest of the game. If Tatum or Brown did something like that they would be benched for a quarter. But Smart has carte blanche to do whatever the fuck he wants.
 

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They didn't have a lead the rest of the game. If Tatum or Brown did something like that they would be benched for a quarter. But Smart has carte blanche to do whatever the fuck he wants.
Smart has earned that carte blanche with his awesome gritty tough awesomeness.

It's just too bad he can't shoot worth a shit, even though he is shooting better this year.
 

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Al can’t chase around stretch 4s all game, which almost every 4 now.
because he was so terrible at it last season, jeesh

Horford can completely play the 4. In fact he was much more efficient last season then he has been at the 5.

The malarky that the game has changed massively in one season is HRB silliness
 

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That Smart shot sucked but he was not the problem. Hayward contintuing to be a non-factor and Jaylen turning into a pumpkin over the summer killed them with MaMo out.
 

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Anthony Davis would solve a lot of problems at the same time. just saying.
You know they would have to include Kyrie Irving in any Anthony Davis deal, right? And you know he isn't actually available despite what the estimable Stephen A Smith says, right?

What will actually help is if Boston doesn't blow a bunch of layups and wide-open looks. Tatum, Hayward, Rozier and Brown all shot horribly from the field. The misses from deep hurt too because they created fast-breaks for a team that has speed and likes to push the ball.
 

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Smart has earned that carte blanche with his awesome gritty tough awesomeness.

It's just too bad he can't shoot worth a shit, even though he is shooting better this year.
To be fair to him he's cleaned a lot of that up this season and been about as efficient as he can be.

The bigger problem is that as LTP said, Hayward and Brown are still bad.
 

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That Smart shot sucked but he was not the problem. Hayward contintuing to be a non-factor and Jaylen turning into a pumpkin over the summer killed them with MaMo out.
Yep, just came in here to post this. Baynes and Horford being out is obviously an issue, but in the context of this game the fact that Hayward and Brown were totally invisible for the entire second half doomed them. Kyrie was running a 3 on 5 game on offense.
 

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Maybe it’s just Phoenix. They always play down to this team and for some reason Oubre treats this matchup like his own personal Super Bowl so throwing him in the mix makes it even worse.
 

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You know they would have to include Kyrie Irving in any Anthony Davis deal, right? And you know he isn't actually available despite what the estimable Stephen A Smith says, right?
Didn't Woj have a report out this week that the Celtics have been "hawking" AD for years, and they have always targeted this upcoming offseason as when they'll actually make an offer?

I think that's what's got everyone going again. Woj is a different animal than Stephen A.
 

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This team is a second round exit if Brown and Hayward don't improve. Hayward obviously makes sense but I don't know what the fuck happened to Jaylen Brown. I'm getting concerned at this point. If Jaylen can't unfuck himself back in the starting lineup against Phoenix at home with three days rest then I don't know when he is going to be able to. Hayward concerns me for different reasons. It's nearly Christmas and he doesn't really look any better than he did the first couple weeks of the season. I didn't think he'd be all the way back by this point but I thought he'd look better than he does.
 

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Jaylen was questionable with a hand issue so there’s at least a chance he was gutting it out at less than full strength because he was needed with MaMo out.
 

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Here's the Woj quote on AD:

"Boston has been hawking Anthony Davis for years," said Wojnarowski. "They always hoped that it would be—whether it's the end of this season or the beginning of next before the trade deadline—that they would gather up all those assets, all those picks Danny Ainge has, young players, and they'd be the team to be able to get Anthony Davis.

"But now you have L.A., and if they get shut out in free agency, they're going to have to take all their young players to try to use them to get Anthony Davis."
 

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Didn't Woj have a report out this week that the Celtics have been "hawking" AD for years, and they have always targeted this upcoming offseason as when they'll actually make an offer?

I think that's what's got everyone going again. Woj is a different animal than Stephen A.
There have been a number of reports that suggest that Ainge has a thirst that only Davis can quench. But in response to Deadly Splitter, Davis may fix things for Boston but not this season. I am concerned with now - not next year when any number of things can happen to change the NBA landscape. Unless the Celtics and Pelicans work out some sort of Davis for Irving swap, there is nothing to talk about with regards to a trade. If the Cs have any shot to do anything this year, they are going to have to figure things out in-house.
 

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The reality is that Mook was the biggest missing piece this game (sorry benhogan - Baynes is good too but Mook is a bigger part of the offense). I thought they had the depth to trade him this season but I was mistaken.
 

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That makes sense. He looked tentative even considering his struggles of late.
He hasn’t shot well but to my eye there have been all kinds of back rim-type bad luck misses for him. I came to this one late but I saw some that were “shooting a basketball for the first time” bad, so it’s possible for sure.

The injuries have not helped maintain the rhythm they had and the roles everyone was sliding into.
 

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TL has plenty to learn about when not to go for a block and all that but he’s doing some pretty unbelievable stuff out there. His one on one D has been surprisingly good. When he stays quiet he’s unreal, because once you’re in the air he is free to challenge the shot, he’s going to affect it. He’s that quick and long.
 

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He hasn’t shot well but to my eye there have been all kinds of back rim-type bad luck misses for him. I came to this one late but I saw some that were “shooting a basketball for the first time” bad, so it’s possible for sure.

The injuries have not helped maintain the rhythm they had and the roles everyone was sliding into.
I agree, I think his stroke has looked ok for the most part, and he's missed a ton of stuff that was right on line. Tonight, he started well, made his first bucket on a drive to the hoop, then made his second shot on a baseline jumper, might have even made his 3rd shot too. Then when he stepped out to 3 point line, it was uggggggggggggly. Hopefully, it was the hand. Defensively, I thought he was one of the few guys that was actually playing pretty well tonight.
 

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He hasn’t shot well but to my eye there have been all kinds of back rim-type bad luck misses for him. I came to this one late but I saw some that were “shooting a basketball for the first time” bad, so it’s possible for sure.

The injuries have not helped maintain the rhythm they had and the roles everyone was sliding into.
JB was team high +10 in 4Q and team low -12 in 2Q.

He's definitely thinking instead of just playing out there.
 

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I agree, I think his stroke has looked ok for the most part, and he's missed a ton of stuff that was right on line. Tonight, he started well, made his first bucket on a drive to the hoop, then made his second shot on a baseline jumper, might have even made his 3rd shot too. Then when he stepped out to 3 point line, it was uggggggggggggly. Hopefully, it was the hand. Defensively, I thought he was one of the few guys that was actually playing pretty well tonight.
He was noticeably great on one possession that ended with Josh Jackson hitting a fade-away 20 footer which in retrospect just about sums up the game.
 

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The reality is that Mook was the biggest missing piece this game (sorry benhogan - Baynes is good too but Mook is a bigger part of the offense). I thought they had the depth to trade him this season but I was mistaken.
Ha I'm with you, MaMo has been huge this year.

Baynes is a very good role player when mixed in with some offense-first players (Kyrie, Al, MaMo, Tatum, Hayward). TL and Theis can replicate a lot of what Baynes does.
 

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Ha I'm with you, MaMo has been huge this year.

Baynes is a very good role player when mixed in with some offense-first players (Kyrie, Al, MaMo, Tatum, Hayward). TL and Theis can replicate a lot of what Baynes does.
TL and Theis will need to step up with Baynes out for an extended period with a broken hand.