12-12-24 - Bruins V Kraken: No Sleeping in Seattle
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I'm watching that broadcast. They didn't say that. It was automatically reviewed
It literally had coaches challenge on the score bug at one point. Shrug. I have no volume so that’s the only place I’m getting it from is the on screen graphics.
Honestly the best thing that could happen is they miss the playoffs. This core isn’t winning anything and Neely/Sweeney are the wrong guys to rebuild it.
Odd, definitely didn't see that here with the Kraken broadcast and I'm watching on "KHN" since NESN gets blacked out in Alaska for Kraken/Bruins games
At this point i hope they do and everyone gets traded and they start from scratch from the GM on down. Nobody on this team is worth keeping around.
It would have to be Neely on down. Neely is never firing Sweeney. They’re a package deal.
That's completely fair.
Also how many times can one team miss the net in a row. This team just sucks
Tyler Johnson. Or Cole Koepke. Or Morgan Geekie. Or Marc McLaughlin. This organization continues to have a perverse fascination with forwards that do nothing well. Johnson at least once did things well, but he is so toasted that he could start a brawl at the Pop-Tarts Bowl.
They have no skill across the lineup. Marchand talking about “sloppy practices” is literally him saying “we have so little skill that we can’t even put two passes together in fucking practice.”
Not sure what the fascination is with Morgan Geekie. He’s a 4th line stiff with no hands.
But they paid the pylon Zadarov way too much money and overpaid for an obviously declining Lindholm. That's good right? But agreed, there's no skill with terrible contracts across the board that they will be hard pressed to get out from under
I think Elias Lindholm will probably be ok next year if he decides to show up to camp in shape this time.
Geekie’s raison d'être is to fumble tape-to-tape passes from Charlie Coyle and Pavel Zacha. He is not devoid of all cromulence, but his weaknesses actively inhibit the production of his teammates.
I dunno, he's looked like he's on the decline for a couple seasons now. Hopefully you're right and I'm completely seeing things.
Guy gets a soft tissue injury after the first practice of main camp = showed up fat.
He looked like this last season as well. I'm not saying you're wrong that he showed up out of shape, I completely agree. But he looked rough last season too
They basically go where their goaltending goes. They don’t have the skill to win a lot of 5-4 games. When they get goaltending like they’ve gotten on this trip, it’s almost impossible.
They've managed to undo over two games all the progress they made since firing Monty. What an awful trip.
I mean, we all knew coaching wasn't THE issue.
It was AN issue, but the biggest issue is the talent on the roster. Scotty Bowman himself couldn't fix this team.
Not much has really changed under Sacco. Under Monty they were decent defensively, bad offesnively. Under Sacco they've been good defensively, bad offensively. Slight improvement on the defensive side but not leaps and bounds. The offense has still been bad. They got results for 9 games because the goalies made saves.
That’s for sure. We all had doubts in Korpisalo, and something happened to Swayman. Can he get “hurt” and take a week off and then get some AHL time to figure shit out?
I agree with SJH on this one. Missing training camp fucked him up so bad, it’s probably a lost season for him.
What they really should do is shut down Pastrnak, who is obviously playing through an injury that is making him largely ineffective.
At this point, they are what they are. There is no cap space, no good trades that they can make to fix this.
They should be playing guys that might have upside over some of the guys that are clearly not part of the future, focus on getting core guys like Swayman & Pastrnak right for 25-26, and resign themselves to not making the playoffs this year.
Hopefully they can get some decent assets for guys like Carlo, Coyle, Marchand at the deadline.
Would you extend him? And for how much? My thinking is that if you wouldn’t be willing to give him an extension, why not get something for him at the deadline in a lost season.
I'd extend him. At this point in my life, having Bruins legends on the team does in fact carry a lot of value to me, and Marchard is a Bruins legend. As far as I am concerned, he can play here as long as he likes. I am not down with trying to maximize every last bit of value by possibly trading him.
I realize others may feel differently. But the man is closing in on 1000 points and I would hate to see him reach that in another sweater.
I agree they are not trading Brad. They absolutely should, but they won't. I am also okay with that.
Can someone who understands our prospects please tell me wtf is up with Lysell? If we suck, why not give him a look?
Also, I never understood the Poitras demotion, so if anyone can provide clarity on that, I’m all ears.
Also, I never understood the Poitras demotion, so if anyone can provide clarity on that, I’m all ears.
The organization would rather suck and be big than suck and develop skilled players.
Separate post with regards to who to keep and who’s tradeable:
keep:
Pasta (and hope he sorts it out and/or gets healthy
McAvoy
Brazeau
Marchand
Swayman (fans can be so fickle. This man is a phenomenal goaltender. The team sucks and he’s been rough for sure, but he’s a smart, determined kid who I have no doubt will figure it out. In fact, on the entire roster, I have the least concern about Sway.)
Everyone else can be traded.
keep:
Pasta (and hope he sorts it out and/or gets healthy
McAvoy
Brazeau
Marchand
Swayman (fans can be so fickle. This man is a phenomenal goaltender. The team sucks and he’s been rough for sure, but he’s a smart, determined kid who I have no doubt will figure it out. In fact, on the entire roster, I have the least concern about Sway.)
Everyone else can be traded.
Then wtf do you draft him in the first place? They drafted a 5’10 guy, did they think he was going to shoot up to 6’3?
Lysell spent time hurt and has 10 points in 20 games. That doesn't screem "gotta promote him" to me. Poitras and Mekulov on the other hand should be here. I'd never have sent Poitras down and would've given Merkulov more runway when he was here. But here we are. They probably won't call anyone up while they're in western Canada so more of the Tyler Johnson show.
Not sure how you can't be concerned about Swayman. It's been 35 games and he has sucked ass and is a large reason why they are outside the playoff structure. By the time he "figures it out" it'll be Octoberof 2025. Good stuff from the market setter, torpedoing the season for a few hundred K.
As for Marchand...I don't think it's worth even looking to trade him. What are you going to get for a 37 year old winger? It won't be much. He's earned the right to play out his career here, I'd extend him.
Not sure how you can't be concerned about Swayman. It's been 35 games and he has sucked ass and is a large reason why they are outside the playoff structure. By the time he "figures it out" it'll be Octoberof 2025. Good stuff from the market setter, torpedoing the season for a few hundred K.
As for Marchand...I don't think it's worth even looking to trade him. What are you going to get for a 37 year old winger? It won't be much. He's earned the right to play out his career here, I'd extend him.
I can agree with that. The first two names that I mentioned, Coyle & Carlo I would absolutely look to deal at the deadline if they’re out of it.
I guess they can explore that but I think they'll mostly get crickets. Coyle is 32, having a down year, and signed for another season plus has trade protection. Teams are always looking for centers so I guess maybe he'd have a little value but I don't think you're getting a ton. It's not an apples to apples comparison but the Blues had to attach a 2nd to unload Kevin Hayes to Pittsburgh. Hayes is the same age as Coyle and is signed for the same term at a cheaper dollar amount. Coyle is the better player but what would a trade net the Bruins? A 5th or 6th? Carlo is 28 and has 2 years left on his contract with some trade protection. I dunno. Teams sometimes over value defensive defenseman so maybe they can pull a fast one on some team but I don't think he's got much value either. They could retain on either but they only have limited retention slots and with each player having term I'd rather not retain and draw from futture cap space.
Marchand is somewhat interesting but I think he's earned the right to stick around and finish his career here if he wants. He's a 37 year old declining winger with some bagage. I guess if this continues to go south and a rebuild is in the cards maybe he asks to go to a contender and they can work something out but I'd much rather watch him end his career here than trade him for a 3rd round pick or something.
Frederic is probably their most attractive realistic trade piece. He's cheap ($2.3 million), plays all 3 forward postitions, is productive at 5x5 (104th of 404 qualifiers in points/60 at 5x5 over the last 3 years) and brings the rough stuff/intangibles that teams love come playoff time (just don't look at his actual playoff production). They'd have a pretty large market for his services. The ceiling on the return may be limited because he's a UFA and we're not talking about a top 6 game changer but I think they could get good value for Frederic.
After that, I don't know what else they really have. I think they'd probably be fine moving Geekie but they're not getting much for him. Brazeau is interesting to me. He's dirt cheap, $775,000 and is a pending UFA. He looks like a nice player and kinda like Frederic he's got some qualities that teams could overpay for. He's a huge winger who can score. I wouldn't be shopping him necessarily but if someone called, I'd listen. Flipping a guy who didn't even have an NHL contract a year ago for a 2nd/3rd would be a nice bit of business. The defense is basically locked in for the next few years. Maybe you could get a 6th for Wotherspoon as someone's insurance D for a playoff run but that's about it.
Now that I’m home, and I can get the shot of this since they won’t let you screenshot with your phone. The KHN broadcast they were showing at the sports bar.
“Coach’s challenge” score bug
I’m crazy, but not completely crazy.
That legitimately didn't show on the television broadcast here. There was nothing there, just the refs getting together and the announcers talking about the automatic review. That's so odd. Then again, I'm not shocked that I didn't see something other's did. Because Alaska hahaha
I think the only reason I did notice it is because I had no sound so I was focused on whatever came on screen that helps explain what is going on.