12/10 The team with the chewed-up mouth guard

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The 2 games the Celtics/Tatum reverted back to old habits were against Heat w/ Butler and the Warriors. Not sure what that means but probably nothing.
 

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I know the Finals are fresh but I honestly wouldn't worry about a Warriors specific problem with the Celtics.

We have no decent healthy bigs and our best players aren't playing well.

It happens sometimes in an 82 game season.
 

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I know the Finals are fresh but I honestly wouldn't worry about a Warriors specific problem with the Celtics.

We have no decent healthy bigs and our best players aren't playing well.

It happens sometimes in an 82 game season.
Yeah it’s a weird thing where if this was against like the Knicks we’d just say whatever it’s an off-night.
 

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I know the Finals are fresh but I honestly wouldn't worry about a Warriors specific problem with the Celtics.

We have no decent healthy bigs and our best players aren't playing well.

It happens sometimes in an 82 game season.
Yeah, we really need the defensive flexibility of our two stud bigs against this team.
 

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I know the Finals are fresh but I honestly wouldn't worry about a Warriors specific problem with the Celtics.

We have no decent healthy bigs and our best players aren't playing well.

It happens sometimes in an 82 game season.
Agreed.

I'd be shocked if the Warriors make it back to the finals. The regular season games against the Bucks, Cavs, and Sixers are the ones that matter.
 

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So is this a one off bad game - law of averages thing against the 11th seed in the West? … or is this a pattern - that we can’t beat this team and won’t when a banner is on the line in June?
If they beat us at home I’ll definitely buy in to that.
 

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I like the way Mazzulla has coached this game. He tried to buy time with Griffin/Kornet at center knowing the entire time he was going to have to close like this small. We'll see if they can claw it all the way back. I wouldn't think so. Down 16 in the 4th isn't something people come back from. But given the personnel he had, this was probably the right way to handle this game.
 

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I think my more genuine answer is that transition D is always bad—the question is more about how well you stop transition opportunities before they happen, usually by making shots.

And it’s really exacerbated against this team because of who they have launching threes and also have guys cherry-picking on every Celtics shot.
Yeah, that’s more of what I was wondering. Like, if we disaggregate defense into components, it’s one thing to look at overall rating, but if, for a given rating, a team is disproportionately strong in half court and weaker in transition, then really good transition offense teams would be a bad matchup. Basically, the matchup thing is what I’m thinking about. Like, when the Warriors are clicking, they can obviously make any D look silly. But the matchup thing seems like something to consider beyond just the Warriors.
 

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LOL. That missed travel call might be the momentum shift we need.
curry reachedin—if he got the ball it’s a good call (no travel) and if he got body it’s a foul. I get it looked awkward but doubt it looks wrong if reviewed
 

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Fortunately we have 2 of them on the roster :)

If this was our actual squad I'd be more concerned.

We are playing 5 guards/wings exclusively, it we give up 130 pts and lose it's OK
I missed whatever the fuck happened in Phoenix the other night, but I think this team just looks different with Horford in. In a really good way.
 

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I know the Finals are fresh but I honestly wouldn't worry about a Warriors specific problem with the Celtics.

We have no decent healthy bigs and our best players aren't playing well.

It happens sometimes in an 82 game season.
Insofar as a lot of the problem tonight is second-chance points and rebounding, I'll agree that not having our first-choice bigs available is a good chunk of it.

But if we solved the high screen issues with Curry / Klay a bit better, this game would be a lot tighter, because Brown, Smart and Brogdon are playing well. Tatum is the only starter having worse than a B+ game.

edit: I guess the transition game is probably the biggest aspect. We go entire games without giving up uncontested fast-breaks.
 

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All sorts of ghosts of Christmas past. Can't rebound, Smart hero ball, turnovers. Whew!