11/30/18 - Avenge The Land

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I know it's garbage time against a garbage team, but I love watching Time Lord jump around, throwing down oops, block shots, makes me think he's gonna be a solid player in the not too distant future.
You can see why he doesn’t get a lot of minutes, however. At least not yet. He’s winded and dragging after 3 minutes. He either needs to up his conditioning or learn to pace himself and not try to jump out of the house on every play.
 

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On any given night teams have letdowns.

Cleveland has been really bad all season.
They beat the Rockets too. I agree they are bad but they have enough talent to run with even good teams now and then. The C's beat a team they should have beaten by a margin you would expect given the talent disparity. For this team in the '18-19 season, this is huge progress. Recall what happened at home on Wednesday, 11/21 (hint for those who dont want to Google it - it rhymes with hoss to the Ricks).
 

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You can see why he doesn’t get a lot of minutes, however. At least not yet. He’s winded and dragging after 3 minutes. He either needs to up his conditioning or learn to pace himself and not try to jump out of the house on every play.
He would also get summarily abused by actual NBA rotation bigs. Tristan Thompson would school him much like Kyrie did to Collin Sexton tonight.
 

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we have a two-way spot open now that Lemon is gone

interesting PGs in the G-League: Briante Weber, Ulis, Carter, Devonte Graham

wouldn't mind finagling John Jenkins out of the Knicks hands (worked w/Hanlen and looked great in Summer League)
 

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The Celtics steamrolled the Cavs. That's two convincing wins in a row - one against a decent opponent and one against a not good one. Hope they can make it three tomorrow.
 

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Had to watch the 2nd half on DVR, and obviously, it was extremely enjoyable. Almost every single minute. These are the kinds of games I was expecting to see once or twice a week, but I'll take them when we get them and enjoy them just the same. I'm not making any assertions that sitting guys is the difference, until I see them all play together healthy again, but the fact that they are taking care of business and scoring a ton of points, and even more importantly, hitting their open shots, is fannnnnnnnnntastic.

Semi needs to take Yabu's minutes. I think that much that is clear, and Baynes brings so much to the table. I know we won't see it happen, but I'd be real curious to see what it would look like if Brad let this lineup continue to start, and went with a 2nd unit of Rozier, Brown, Hayward, Horford and Theis. I think that 2nd group would annhilate opposing teams benches, and if these starters continue to have this kind of chemistry, we're going to see a lot more of Wanamaker, Dozier and the Big Sleep going forward.
 

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Outshot 35-16 at the line tonight.

I'm about ready to resign myself to the fact that we're just going to be playing 8 on 5 most nights. Doesn't seem any way to correct it, except if these guys start flopping and Brad starts screaming, and I don't think either of those are going to take place any time soon.
 

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The Celtics steamrolled the Cavs. That's two convincing wins in a row - one against a decent opponent and one against a not good one. Hope they can make it three tomorrow.

3 out of last 4 have been good
 

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C's looking better since Thanksgiving, maybe we see another bump post Christmas as we circled coming into the year?
 

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we have a two-way spot open now that Lemon is gone

interesting PGs in the G-League: Briante Weber, Ulis, Carter, Devonte Graham

wouldn't mind finagling John Jenkins out of the Knicks hands (worked w/Hanlen and looked great in Summer League)
Sign me up for Briante Weber. The guy has decent handles, doesn't try to do too much and has shown flashes of being able to shoot. He's not great by any stretch but he is worth having if the C's ball-handling rotation thins out. I actually think he is as good as Wanamaker.
 

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We're not really thinking the Celtics are resting guys every night are we? Like, as a strategy to perform better?

Because sooner or later the full complement has to learn to play together unless Ainge/Stevens know there's a trade coming soon and it won't be an issue.
 

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Sign me up for Briante Weber. The guy has decent handles, doesn't try to do too much and has shown flashes of being able to shoot. He's not great by any stretch but he is worth having if the C's ball-handling rotation thins out. I actually think he is as good as Wanamaker.
Weber's 4.2 SPG and 6 REB so far are interesting.
Wouldn't be the worst #15 deep bench option if he's willing to play aggressive full-court defense
 

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We're not really thinking the Celtics are resting guys every night are we? Like, as a strategy to perform better?
Yes. I'm leading the charge for this. I recognize the defenses we've faced the past few games have made us look more cohesive offensively but I believe at least some of this has to do with players on the floor playing more freely and instinctively. Hayward got touches tonight he never would have had with Horford and Jaylen both playing today. It has made a difference.

Because sooner or later the full complement has to learn to play together unless Ainge/Stevens know there's a trade coming soon and it won't be an issue.
"Unless" being the operative word here......I'd prefer "Until." We are in the cushy part of our schedule so this is a great opportunity to experiment with different lineups and rotations which aren't possible with each of your top 8 guys wanting 30 minutes every game. This way we DO give them 30 minutes every game they play which amounts to something like 4 out of every 5 games or 5 out of every 6 with my strategy.
 

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But then what? We try to get them to learn to play together when the schedule is not cushy? We roll into a postseason series and sit guys because it's their turn?

We all did see Brown get hurt. Occam's razor says he's sitting because he got hurt, not because we're trying to revolutionize the way teams play--not to rest guys, but to simply say we can't figure out a way to play all this talent together at the same time and hopefully we'll eventually do it, but we don't want to do it right now.
 

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I’d rather see Brad institute full squad 5-man subs before resting guys to save himself from having to coach.
 

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Weber's 4.2 SPG and 6 REB so far are interesting.
Wouldn't be the worst #15 deep bench option if he's willing to play aggressive full-court defense
Weber is small (6'2") so his defense is always going to be a problem but when he was with the Warriors, at least, he played his ass off on both sides of the court when he got run. For my money, he is exactly what the Celtics should be looking at if they want to add another two way.
 

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But then what? We try to get them to learn to play together when the schedule is not cushy? We roll into a postseason series and sit guys because it's their turn?

We all did see Brown get hurt. Occam's razor says he's sitting because he got hurt, not because we're trying to revolutionize the way teams play--not to rest guys, but to simply say we can't figure out a way to play all this talent together at the same time and hopefully we'll eventually do it, but we don't want to do it right now.
Injuries happen. Trades happen. It is very unlikely that we'd have our same 10-man rotation here for the playoffs for one reason or another. The other thing is when you have all these players who require the ball to go through them there is nothing to "learn" except to frustrate each other and destroy the locker room. My plan alleviates this risk and keeps everyone happy and productive throughout the long season.