11/17 - Jazz

teddykgb

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Nobody is consistently making shots. I can’t believe people are even mentioning the coach. The rotations are wonky because when everyone is laying bricks you keep trying different combos to see if someone will get hot. They are just an abysmal shooting team right now and they are getting open looks. Unless and until they fall the coach can do anything anyone is suggesting and it won’t matter
 

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Nobody is consistently making shots. I can’t believe people are even mentioning the coach. The rotations are wonky because when everyone is laying bricks you keep trying different combos to see if someone will get hot. They are just an abysmal shooting team right now and they are getting open looks. Unless and until they fall the coach can do anything anyone is suggesting and it won’t matter
This.
 

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Nobody is consistently making shots. I can’t believe people are even mentioning the coach. The rotations are wonky because when everyone is laying bricks you keep trying different combos to see if someone will get hot. They are just an abysmal shooting team right now and they are getting open looks. Unless and until they fall the coach can do anything anyone is suggesting and it won’t matter
My point is nobody can get in a rhythm at the moment because they’re playing weird minutes and always with different guys.. and even if they do get in a rhythm and start scoring Brad takes them out like they’re on a train schedule.. (although very few of these guys are getting into any kind of rhythm. The minutes for Al are weird, forcing Hayward to play to try to get him into shape, playing Smart way too many minutes a night to try and get any energy going.. he’s both pushing all the wrong buttons and/or the team is playing beyond poorly .. but it has to be rough trying to figure out how many minutes you’ll play.. who you’ll play with.. etc etc. it’s also on Brad to call timeouts or maybe change a lineup when things aren’t working.. like every other NBA coach does.. not just leave the same guys in to go down by 12 or more.. it’s on the team and Brad at the moment.
 

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I don’t mean to be dismissive but this isn’t under 12 basketball. Jaylen Brown isn’t putting up nightly stinkers shooting because he’s playing an extra 10 minutes with different people. He’s missing corner 3s and that shot is the same no matter who passes it to you. Rotations and familiarity might be a worthwhile discussion if they were struggling to execute situational basketball in tight games but these are professional players who are getting good open looks and missing them
 

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I don’t mean to be dismissive but this isn’t under 12 basketball. Jaylen Brown isn’t putting up nightly stinkers shooting because he’s playing an extra 10 minutes with different people. He’s missing corner 3s and that shot is the same no matter who passes it to you. Rotations and familiarity might be a worthwhile discussion if they were struggling to execute situational basketball in tight games but these are professional players who are getting good open looks and missing them
The team as a whole is hitting at 43.5 from the field and 36.1% from deep. Last year for the full season, they hit at 45% and 37.7% respectively. Horford and Hayward aren't hitting near their recent career marks from three either.

This is the story of this team and not Brad's rotations, even though everyone seems to think they know better than the staff who is in the lockerroom and has access to stats that aren't on the internet. If you look at this roster and think that the answer to the team's troubles is Brad Wanamaker or anyone else who wasn't penciled in for big minutes, there are clearly other issues at work.

The Celtics are inconsistent right now and they aren't fun to watch. That may well continue, especially because some of the chemistry issues posters here and pundits have noticed may be real and persistent. However its a bit too early for that imho. When the C's get to the third pole in terms of games played, then maybe you get concerned. Until then, Stevens should continue to explore what works and what doesn't before settling into a rotation. Its still very early days.
 

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Was there a bunch of people banging the Brad Wanamaker drum? That seems odd, maybe it was due to frustration with Terry.

I think there is a small chance we see a change to the starting lineup. Brad could go situational with the starting unit. (ie. When you play Rudy Gobert, start Baynes against him. Have Al play at the 4).

The change may happen against the Hornets on Monday when the Celtics see Zeller at Center. My thinking has been Gordon coming off the bench but it may be Jaylen Brown (who played awful again). We'll see.