10/9: Cole vs Glasnow

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The biggest thing with the HP ump tonight was inconsistency late in the game.

The first 0-2 to Brosseau was an offspeed that surrounded the plate outside, but was very close. Cole got that call with his fastball out at that spot all night... ball there.

The 2-0 to Stanton was 100% a ball, called that way all night... until it was framed pretty well in that instance.

Robo umps are going to help a lot, when they come.
 

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Jon Abbey deserves a bunch of love.

However, and at the same time, so do the Boston fans here. This forum remains second to none for quality analysis, of stats, history, and breakdowns, no matter what the affiliation is. It could easily be so much more hostile and anti-thetical to these virtues, as I’ve seen in virtually every other pocket of the internet. Thank you kindly for that. It might be a rivalry on the diamond, but all in one, one in all—we make one hell of a team. Even beyond the fact the Yankees lost, that’s what I’ll really miss the rest of this month.
 

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Stayed out of the thread so as not to jinx the Rays. Fun to read, though.

Thanks, Jon and company
 

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Just want to say, jon abbey is a gracious host and a tremendous sport.


I hate your team, but damn it, I like you.
jon is awesome. As are all the Yankee fans who post here. I'll say it again --- being a Sox fan requires you to pay attention to the Yankees. Whenever I have a dumb question about the Yankees, these guys know the answers.
 

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Aw, you guys are the best.

Robo umps are going to help a lot, when they come.
This is going to help my own enjoyment of the sport so much.

I'll have tons of post-mortem thoughts in the weeks to come. Quickly I will say that NY had some bad luck with pitching depth this year, Severino and Paxton (their #2 and #3) basically contributing nothing, and the short season meaning that German (#5?) was basically suspended all season, plus losing Kahnle, their best righty reliever. Their backup plan was to hope that some of the young pitching developed, but with no minor league season that was much harder and they didn't give guys enough chances to see if they could help (Schmidt, Deivi in the playoffs).

But HOU lost Verlander and TB lost a ton of pitchers and they're still around, no excuses, but not great luck.
 

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So what’s the rotation next year?

Cole
Severino
German
Garcia
Montgomery?
Yes, plus Clarke Schmidt, plus maybe Tanaka.

Severino had his Tommy John surgery in Feb so he probably will be back midseason.
 

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General consensus is we watched a great baseball game tonight. It was tense, for sure, but the modern game lacks the action of prior generations because of all the strikeouts and emphasis on balls and strikes over fielding and running the bases. 24 strikeouts tonight out of 51 outs. Just one DP. No doubles or triples. Six hits in the entire game, three of them solo homers. Is that exciting? Yanks made two errors in the infield and Judge might have caught Meadows’ homer if he got back to the wall faster and didn’t hit his head on the protruding top of the wall. He had all week to practice snatching balls at the wall.
 

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General consensus is we watched a great baseball game tonight. It was tense, for sure, but the modern game lacks the action of prior generations because of all the strikeouts and emphasis on balls and strikes over fielding and running the bases. 24 strikeouts tonight out of 51 outs. Just one DP. No doubles or triples. Six hits in the entire game, three of them solo homers. Is that exciting? Yanks made two errors in the infield and Judge might have caught Meadows’ homer if he got back to the wall faster and didn’t hit his head on the protruding top of the wall. He had all week to practice snatching balls at the wall.
What baseball is becoming is a concern. But right now I needed to see a game like that because it was the first time I’ve felt something approximating playoff tension. It was the first time baseball felt familiar and normal to me this year because even without fans and in a neutral park in a crazy shortened year, that transported me to Octobers past.

I am sure that for Yankees fans it already had some of that but I have been pretty ambivalent so far and those last few inning finally hooked me.
 

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as the Yanks try to figure how to replace their SP FAs, I am struck how the Paxton trade really looks like lose-lose now. Sheffield has been a nothingburger.

a legit #2 and the Yankees probably win the series in 4. a broken record, but one that rings true for the Yanks.
 

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I want to echo the other comments about JA and the other MFY fans on this board being class acts. I’ve been a bit of a troll in this forum as recently as a few years ago and regret my behavior. Having a kid and this pandemic have really put things into perspective. Looking forward to next season and many more years of friendly rivalry/banter. Great season.
 

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Can't believe NY held TB to 3 total runs in games 4 and 5 and didn't win the series, TB went hitless for 10 straight innings at one point, from the 4th in game 4 to the 5th last night, 0-32.
 

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The average FB in this game was 97.2 (both sides combined), the fastest in any game since they started tracking in 2008.
 

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Can't believe NY held TB to 3 total runs in games 4 and 5 and didn't win the series, TB went hitless for 10 straight innings at one point, from the 4th in game 4 to the 5th last night, 0-32.
Can’t blame Yankee pitching in those two games. On offense, Yanks still lead key AL playoff hitting stats, thanks to the Cleveland series. But they did not hit when it mattered. Tampa’s gang of relievers shut them down. So you can credit the Rays’ bullpen for saving the series. Let’s see how those relievers fare against Houston. Maybe Tampa is just better than anyone in the AL. They proved it over 60 games and then proved it over 5 games against NY. Now they got to prove it one more time. And one more after that.
I have no idea what Cashman does to fix the offense. But he can start by making a deal for an elite lefty hitter who can balance this lineup, which is too right handed. Hicks had a nice series but if he is your No. 3 hitter, you’re in trouble.
 

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This was a winner take all game for the ages. Cole was an absolute beast. Rays team approach to pitching on full display. Drama, tension, storylines, karma. Nobody blew it, Rays just had a few more feet on their fly balls. Even in the epic, game-deciding at-bat, Chapman was nasty and Brosseau had to battle for foul ball after foul ball until he got the timing locked in on 100mph heat. You really couldn’t ask for more from a play-off game. Kirk Gibson, Bill Mazeroski type stuff if you’re the Rays fan. You gotta have a little luck along the way to be a team of destiny, but it feels like this Rays team has that gritty quality you need to hang in there and make the most of your chances. Yankees seemed to not have Yankee swagger, reinforced by Cashman’s folly in game 2.

I think there is a good chance we’ll find ourselves back here again next year. Hopefully abbey and I will be able to rep the game thread in person in the Legends by then.
 

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Jon's a great guy and I'd like him to be sad at the end of every single baseball season.


I am actually sad, which is something I haven't felt about sports for many years. I'm not sure why it is exactly and I don't expect it to last too long, maybe it's partly because my personal vow to try to completely ignore football (both college and pro) this year means that sports will be over in a few weeks until spring training (I like the NBA but the season is way too long so I no longer pay attention to most of the regular season).

On the bright side, at least I am not a Red Sox fan (looking forward, not backward) because the AL East is only going to get tougher.
 

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I am actually sad, which is something I haven't felt about sports for many years. I'm not sure why it is exactly and I don't expect it to last too long, maybe it's partly because my personal vow to try to completely ignore football (both college and pro) this year means that sports will be over in a few weeks until spring training (I like the NBA but the season is way too long so I no longer pay attention to most of the regular season).

On the bright side, at least I am not a Red Sox fan (looking forward, not backward) because the AL East is only going to get tougher.
That’s a good sign for these pandemic times. We’re all a little sad about one thing or another. Unlike you, the end of the Yankees’ season did not linger for me because the Rays deserved to win. I will root for them but fear their bullpen will wear down if they go 7 with Houston, with no off-days. Sweep Houston and LA could be in trouble.
 

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This was a winner take all game for the ages. Cole was an absolute beast. Rays team approach to pitching on full display. Drama, tension, storylines, karma. Nobody blew it, Rays just had a few more feet on their fly balls. Even in the epic, game-deciding at-bat, Chapman was nasty and Brosseau had to battle for foul ball after foul ball until he got the timing locked in on 100mph heat. You really couldn’t ask for more from a play-off game. Kirk Gibson, Bill Mazeroski type stuff if you’re the Rays fan. You gotta have a little luck along the way to be a team of destiny, but it feels like this Rays team has that gritty quality you need to hang in there and make the most of your chances. Yankees seemed to not have Yankee swagger, reinforced by Cashman’s folly in game 2.

I think there is a good chance we’ll find ourselves back here again next year. Hopefully abbey and I will be able to rep the game thread in person in the Legends by then.
Great summation, written objectively, even though you obviously are a fan of the Rays. A lot of sports writers are covering a team they grew up rooting for but when it comes time to write their story, they can stay neutral. Abbey is good at this, too.
 

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On the bright side, at least I am not a Red Sox fan (looking forward, not backward) because the AL East is only going to get tougher.
I wouldn't fret too much for Sox fans. We've been pretty content over the past couple of decades, and things are actually looking quite bright going forward. Sleep on the Sox at your peril; they will be in the mix.
 

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Jack Curry missed the Yankee postseason because he got Covid (new news) but he posted a video to Twitter and said he’s feeling a lot better now.