Think he was requesting a TO upon the next stoppage.
Nice win. Great way to start.
10/3- Opening Night @ Dallas
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Nice win. Great way to start.
Could have been better (except Rask who is a beast), but an away win against a playoff team is a good way to start the year.
I am very ok with the defensive TOI numbers.
Carlo 19:34
Chara 19:24
Krug 19:29
Grzelcyk 19:52
McAvoy 22:08
Clifton 15:34
The B's don't need to ride chara for 24 every night anymore. I don't think they can either.
Carlo 19:34
Chara 19:24
Krug 19:29
Grzelcyk 19:52
McAvoy 22:08
Clifton 15:34
The B's don't need to ride chara for 24 every night anymore. I don't think they can either.
Polak has movement in all extremities, feeling better at the hospital.
View: https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1179964914737262592?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1179964914737262592?s=21
People are mad at Jack. I guess he said something about “bad hockey karma” when Polak got injured.
View: https://twitter.com/walsha/status/1179985725946617856?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/walsha/status/1179985725946617856?s=21
As long as McAvoy's time stays up. I think he can go 24 most nights. It might require a bit of juggling when there isn't a lot of PP time.
Jack is, as always, an idiot. That said, in the moment, I thought he meant luck and just chose the wrong term rather than actually invoking the Buddhist principle.
Glad Polak is ok. That was terrifying.
Glad Polak is ok. That was terrifying.
People are taking it that he meant karma because he was going to hit Wagner from behind so he deserved to injure himself like that. Which if that's what he meant, is an idiotic thing to say.
However there is a reasonable chance he meant luck.
Yeah, he's an idiot and has always gloried in what he views as comeuppances, so it's definitely possible he didn't mean luck and is an awful person.
I didn't see the play live and wasn't commenting live like Brickley and Jack. Having viewed the clip, they were first commenting when Polak was still moving his head and upper body after hitting the ice - and (at least to my eyes) seemed in discomfort versus being gravely injured. I think any judgement about them has to be taken in that context. We've all seen players lay there, and the trainer comes over and they smile letting the trainer know they were just trying to draw a penalty or take a minute to gather themselves. If you are an announcer calling a contact sport you can't stop talking the minute every player hits the deck.
If I'm being honest, when I saw the non-Bruins feed clip the first thing I thought was what Brickley said - he did that to himself trying to put Wagner into the boards (in a dangerous way). I didn't hear Jack say anything over the top like "he hoped he was hurt" or the sort. Again, being honest, I think the statements were pretty accurate on its face. If he hadn't been so eager to put a hurting on Wagner, he'd have not been hurt himself. I'm not going to mince words, I'm ok with what he said (assuming he truly meant what he said about "bad hockey karma"). There are a lot of things to bang on Jack for, I just don't see this as being one of them.
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Hockey can be played many ways, many styles of physicality. Not everyone plays hoping to win the Lady Byng. I personally like hard clean hits - one of the reasons I loved watching Boychuk play for the Bs and don't enjoy Marchand's antics. I think Polak was going to staple Wagner (as both play a heavy style). I don't fault him for choosing to take Wagner hard there (to the extent that it is line with what other players find acceptable). I also don't think it's out of line to say "you live by the sword, you die by the sword". If Polak had opted to ease up on Wagner in a potentially dangerous situation, he'd likely not taken as severe hit himself. He didn't, and then unfortunately he bore the consequences of his own choice. Why is it wrong to voice that? Which way do people want it? If Polak had caught Wagner with his extra juice/shove, and Wagner is the one laying there, it would be us debating it being penalty/suspensionable dirty hit. If hard, potentially dangerous plays against the boards are allowed, then talking about the consequences (hockey karma) of playing close to the acceptable danger line should be allowed. Conversely, if we want a kinder gentler NHL where players look out for each others personal safety - then calling out Polak for trying to put Wagner in danger by labeling it "karma" is reasonable in my book (again in the context of the immediate moment).
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I have no interest in being hypocritical by condemning Jack for either the timing (immediate context), or content of his and Andy's words given the moment. Had either voiced a hope for injury, I'd obviously feel differently. FWIW, I'm not a fan of Jack's shtick - though I don't mind the quality of his pure play by play ability.
If I'm being honest, when I saw the non-Bruins feed clip the first thing I thought was what Brickley said - he did that to himself trying to put Wagner into the boards (in a dangerous way). I didn't hear Jack say anything over the top like "he hoped he was hurt" or the sort. Again, being honest, I think the statements were pretty accurate on its face. If he hadn't been so eager to put a hurting on Wagner, he'd have not been hurt himself. I'm not going to mince words, I'm ok with what he said (assuming he truly meant what he said about "bad hockey karma"). There are a lot of things to bang on Jack for, I just don't see this as being one of them.
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Hockey can be played many ways, many styles of physicality. Not everyone plays hoping to win the Lady Byng. I personally like hard clean hits - one of the reasons I loved watching Boychuk play for the Bs and don't enjoy Marchand's antics. I think Polak was going to staple Wagner (as both play a heavy style). I don't fault him for choosing to take Wagner hard there (to the extent that it is line with what other players find acceptable). I also don't think it's out of line to say "you live by the sword, you die by the sword". If Polak had opted to ease up on Wagner in a potentially dangerous situation, he'd likely not taken as severe hit himself. He didn't, and then unfortunately he bore the consequences of his own choice. Why is it wrong to voice that? Which way do people want it? If Polak had caught Wagner with his extra juice/shove, and Wagner is the one laying there, it would be us debating it being penalty/suspensionable dirty hit. If hard, potentially dangerous plays against the boards are allowed, then talking about the consequences (hockey karma) of playing close to the acceptable danger line should be allowed. Conversely, if we want a kinder gentler NHL where players look out for each others personal safety - then calling out Polak for trying to put Wagner in danger by labeling it "karma" is reasonable in my book (again in the context of the immediate moment).
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I have no interest in being hypocritical by condemning Jack for either the timing (immediate context), or content of his and Andy's words given the moment. Had either voiced a hope for injury, I'd obviously feel differently. FWIW, I'm not a fan of Jack's shtick - though I don't mind the quality of his pure play by play ability.
If anything, I think Polak was trying to do the right thing: he initially was lining up a big hit, but then saw Wagner's numbers and had to abort, at which time he lost his footing and went awkwardly into the boards. Perhaps that's what Jack meant by "bad karma", but he's lost all benefit of the doubt at this point. It was a stupid thing to say at best, downright despicable at worst.
I think Jack's argument of "I ungracefully said that he caused his own hit by being so agressive" has some validity. I also think an apology for the words after learning of the seriousness of the injury would also have been valid, but that didn't happen.
Its frustrating that Jack's tangents are getting more frequently old-man-yells-at-cloud-y.
Its frustrating that Jack's tangents are getting more frequently old-man-yells-at-cloud-y.