10/17: Cowboys at Patriots--Gotta Have It Again

RedOctober3829

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A win is a win. The defense looked horrible for one whole half and made Davis Mills look like Peyton Manning in his prime, but did what they had to do to get the stops and give Mac a chance.

This week, Dallas is a completely different animal. Dak Prescott is playing the best football of his career. He has 1,368 yards passing in 5 games with 13 TDs and 3 INT's. Zeke Elliott is averaging 90 yards per game(5.3 YPC) and 5 TDs. Tony Pollard, his backup, is averaging over 6 YPC on 51 attempts. The trio of Lamb/Cooper/Dalton Schultz are averaging a combined 189 yards receiving and have a combined 9 TDs. This is a very balanced and high-powered offense that is averaging 34 ppg while their defense is playing much better than last year. They are only giving up 23 ppg. Trevon Diggs is an early favorite for DPOY having 6 INT's already.

That being said, if the Patriots are able to get Jalen Mills back this week they are equipped to slow them down a bit. Offensively, they need to get their OL back and continue running the football like they did yesterday so Mac can execute more play action passes. This is the swing game of the season. If they can win this and get to .500, they have the Jets next week and a great opportunity to get to 4-3 and all of their goals are still in front of them. If not, then it's a long, hard road to travel for a playoff spot. They have to stop beating themselves. Too many fumbles, poor 3rd and 4th down defense, and penalties have all combined to doom them in close games.
 

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Sage advice I just heard on a podcast: you ain’t gonna stop em so limit them to field goals. Oh, and don’t fumble.
 

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Elliott and Pollard are going to be a handful. And when they aren’t play action should free up Cooper and Lamb.

Patriots are going to need TDs. They are unlikely to win this one with Folk or field position.

See if Bill can dial something up.
 

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This would be a bigger upset than if they had beat TB. I am preparing myself for a loss, just want to see them be competitive and not get destroyed on both lines.
 

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Win would be amazing, but would rather like to see more progress on O-line, Mac, and the offense. Keep things moving in a positive direction. Also would like to see a game without any back breaking fumbles.

Be interested to see how the defense matches up against a fairly robust offense.
 

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Be interested to see how the defense matches up against a fairly robust offense.
They acquitted themselves well against a robust Tampa offense but Dallas presents a different challenge given the stronger running game. I personally think Dallas moves the ball fairly easily on Sunday. Lots of 3rd and 2 type situations, IMO.
 

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They acquitted themselves well against a robust Tampa offense but Dallas presents a different challenge given the stronger running game. I personally think Dallas moves the ball fairly easily on Sunday. Lots of 3rd and 2 type situations, IMO.
I mentioned this in the pregame thread, but I think BB is going to focus on stopping the run given how badly Dallas has bludgeoned their opponents on the ground the last 4 games. Patriots are probably screwed if they allow Dallas to run all over them like that. With the passing game, that's a really tough matchup too but sometimes Dak is a little loose/fumble-prone with the football in the pocket under pressure....so I could see BB hoping for a turnover like that. If you grab a couple turnovers and force a couple red zone FGs, then you have a shot.

Ultimately, the Patriots offense will probably have to score 3 or more TDs to win this though. What makes this Dallas offense a little harder to defend these days is Kellen Moore's autonomy. In the Jason Garrett days, he would stubbornly stick to the run way too long in games where the opponent was selling out to stop it. Moore isn't afraid to just go spread and pass all game if the run is futile (see opening night against Tampa Bay) and McCarthy has basically let him do his thing without too much interference. One of the few good attributes of Mike McCarthy in a sea of incompetence.
 

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I mentioned this in the pregame thread, but I think BB is going to focus on stopping the run given how badly Dallas has bludgeoned their opponents on the ground the last 4 games. Patriots are probably screwed if they allow Dallas to run all over them like that. With the passing game, that's a really tough matchup too but sometimes Dak is a little loose/fumble-prone with the football in the pocket under pressure....so I could see BB hoping for a turnover like that. If you grab a couple turnovers and force a couple red zone FGs, then you have a shot.

Ultimately, the Patriots offense will probably have to score 3 or more TDs to win this though. What makes this Dallas offense a little harder to defend these days is Kellen Moore's autonomy. In the Jason Garrett days, he would stubbornly stick to the run way too long in games where the opponent was selling out to stop it. Moore isn't afraid to just go spread and pass all game if the run is futile (see opening night against Tampa Bay) and McCarthy has basically let him do his thing without too much interference. One of the few good attributes of Mike McCarthy in a sea of incompetence.
Yup. If Pats can’t stop the run, it’s over. Dak is tough to turn over but that’s their only chance. Diggs being out would be very helpful for the offense. Still think Pats need to win a 24-21 or lower type game. They’re not winning if they need to score 27-33 or so.