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Nick Kaufman

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ESPN talking heads (Billups, Rose, Beadle) insinuating that the Celtics play better without Irving.
Tbh, I thought the same thing. The ball moves far better when Kyrie isn't playing. OTOH, you do need a guy to get tough buckets at the end of games, so I dunno.
 

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I don't act like anything. I agree he has looked rough. Not sending him to the G League rough though. And maybe the royal "we" ought to have more measured expectations about a guy who is still fighting back from a horrific injury. I am sorry my jokey post offended you. We should have each other on ignore. I have no interest in fighting with you. And you called me the worst so you should pink me.
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I don’t think there is any doubt the ball moves better without Kyrie. It’s up to Brad and Danny to figure out why and fix it. They were great with Kyrie last season so it isn’t like he’s a problem, they just aren’t quite meshing this year with him out there for whatever reason.
 

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1 REB, 0 STL, 0 BLK, -7 in 31 min. Get your shit together, Gordon.
Clearly he needs a week off.

Enjoyed my time in here last night. I'm never in game threads as I usually watch the Celtics on some type of delay if I have a wager on another game but last night was a sweet setup spot for the C's. Hopefully these pop up more often and I can pop in here more too.
 

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I don’t think there is any doubt the ball moves better without Kyrie. It’s up to Brad and Danny to figure out why and fix it. They were great with Kyrie last season so it isn’t like he’s a problem, they just aren’t quite meshing this year with him out there for whatever reason.
There's also the "ball moves much better when you're playing the Timberwolves" factor.
 

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1 REB, 0 STL, 0 BLK, -7 in 31 min. Get your shit together, Gordon.
It's because Hayward entered the game when Celtics went up 20 in the 3rd (66-46) and Minnesota made their run, outscoring Boston something 35-21 the rest of the way. However, of the 21 points Boston scored in that time, Hayward scored 15 of them. So, perhaps without him, it could have been worse.

He sandwiched the 0-6 game against the Spurs with a 6 for 11 at Memphis and 14 for 18 last night.
 
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chilidawg

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I don’t think there is any doubt the ball moves better without Kyrie. It’s up to Brad and Danny to figure out why and fix it. They were great with Kyrie last season so it isn’t like he’s a problem, they just aren’t quite meshing this year with him out there for whatever reason.
KI's got the best On-off +/- of the regulars. How does that equate to not quite meshing?
 

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Yeah, I don't think we should equate ball movement 100% with meshing.

Of course more FGs are assisted without KI in the game because KI can create his own offense. That's not a problem. And KI is upping his assist numbers this season, but there's always gonna be fewer passes with him, because of his skillset.
 

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KI's got the best On-off +/- of the regulars. How does that equate to not quite meshing?
Because it throws Rozier and at least one of the wings off their games which is clear to see. It isn't only the numbers when Kyrie is on the floor that matters but the overall team performance including the players affected by Kyrie in the lineup which varies on a night-to-night basis.
 

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Not buying it. Kyrie is responsible for Rozier not playing well even when he's off the court? Rozier's gotta suck it up.