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  1. NeckDownAllStar

    Weird baseball stats

    A Weirdly Long Ramble on Bad Ball Hitting Weirdness: I went poking around the stats of legendary bad ball hitter Yogi Berra – he and Roberto Clemente are generally thought to be in a class by themselves – but in terms of low strike outs and home runs, Clemente can’t touch Yogi. They are closer...
  2. NeckDownAllStar

    Weird baseball stats

    That is a very fair question. Presumably mashers like Kingman do put fear into pitchers minds that makes them less willing to go after a hitter aggressively – and I think Barry Bonds walk-rate indicates that. So, I took a look at hitters with a HR/PA of 5.9% or greater (Kingman’s career...
  3. NeckDownAllStar

    Weird baseball stats

    Because plate discipline is a major hobby horse for me, I believe Dave Kingman’s 16 year career, where he struck out 24.4% of the time, is the canary in the mine for strikeout mess we have today. He is my Mendoza Line for strikeouts. I have even created a mental category for players whose...
  4. NeckDownAllStar

    Not Just a Pole

    Reggie Smith is name I never hear and I wondered why. I liked him as a player. Then I read this and realized why. https://retrosimba.com/2013/10/30/why-cardinals-dealt-for-red-sox-nemesis-reggie-smith/ I finished college out in western MA. during the summer of 1973 (no TV, no Boston...
  5. NeckDownAllStar

    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    1975 Data Year Name PA Outs Trad TB Trad TB Rank New TB New TB Rank New TB/PA New TB/Out TTB TTB Rank TTB/PA TTB/Out TTB/27 Outs TTB/27 Outs Rank SO/PA SO/PA Rank 1975 Joe Morgan 639 359 253 24 466 1 0.729 1.298 484 1 0.757 1.348 36.401 1 0.08 378 1975 Andre Thornton 473 282 192 85 294 43...
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    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    I have been playing around with BBJones’ TTB calculation using a chunk of data I have from the Baseball-Reference web site. What BBJones calls Total Bases, which is not traditional total bases, I am calling New Total Bases so I can keep variables straight in my scripts. Thus far, I have been...
  7. NeckDownAllStar

    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    @BaseballJones, I have a quick question about your numbers here as I am trying to correlate them with things I have been looking at. I think your column 3 (TB) is the traditional measure of Total Bases and column 12 (Total Bases) is your measurement of Total Bases that starts with Traditional...
  8. NeckDownAllStar

    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    A career in computer network administration resulted in me becoming somewhat proficient at writing computer scripts to manipulate text data. I wrote a script to download a series of web pages like the example links below, with which I have no doubt you are already familiar...
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    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    Nah, and I feel a little awkward going off on such a tangent with his idea. But the limitations I think I see in the Bases Taken stat got me going and I had a bunch of Batting Splits data already. Ironically, it was the 2024 base running stats of the immortal Bobby Dalbec that first looked...
  10. NeckDownAllStar

    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    In the John Henry era the following Red Sox have been 5th or better in some flavor of Player Offensive Value Rank. Year Name Total Bases Total Bases Rank Unadjusted Total Offensive Bases Unadjusted Total Offensive Bases Rank Men On Base Perc Men On Base Perc Rank Offensive Value Running...
  11. NeckDownAllStar

    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    Because hitting high in the batting order impacts batting value, I adjusted for the hitting with men on base opportunities by dividing Unadjusted Total Offensive Bases by Men On Base Perc (513/.3429 in Duran’s case) and called it Adjusted Offensive Value Batting. This means that Adjusted...
  12. NeckDownAllStar

    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    Results based on 400 Plate Appearances minimum: If I look at Red Sox players who are in the top 15 in the league in traditional Total Bases OR Unadjusted Offensive Value, in 2024 only Jarren Duran shows up. Duran ranked 8 in total bases, 24 in Unadjusted Total Offensive Bases Rank, 6 in...
  13. NeckDownAllStar

    My Ideal Metric - TOTAL bases

    Now the running side (OVR): BBRef defines Bases Taken as bases advanced on fly balls, passed balls, wild pitches, balks, fielder’s indifference. Maybe I am misinterpreting, but I don’t read that as including an “extra” base – such as a runner getting from first to third (or scoring) on a...
  14. NeckDownAllStar

    How old are you?

    73 years old – born in 1951. At age 8 in a Chicago suburb, baseball taught me that life isn’t fair when I discover the game The Go-Go White Sox pulled off a miracle and won the AL pennant - only the second non-Yankee team to do so in the previous 10 years. The White Sox manager, Al Lopez...
  15. NeckDownAllStar

    Ghosts of Rosters Past

    Given Mookie’s positional flexibility, one might consider Dwight Evans in RF as well as Mookie on the roster. If they had Wade Boggs at 3rd, Devers could move to DH right away.
  16. NeckDownAllStar

    Off Season Therapy

    As part of my therapy for the Red Sox’s season, I have been working with the Sox players’ Baseball Savant data available since 2015. I have also included some non-Red Sox data for Mookie Betts, Xander Bogaerts, and Trevor Story – Aaron Judge too since I find his data interesting because he is a...
  17. NeckDownAllStar

    8/11/24 Devers-less Endeavor

    Yep...it is ugly at home. This thread is probably not the place to wallow in it, but they are on a pace to score 343 runs at home – 4.2 runs/game Since the end of World War II only 3 Sox teams have scored less. 1968 - 4.0 1992 - 4.0 2014 – 4.0 1968 was a pitchers year everywhere (Bob Gibson et...
  18. NeckDownAllStar

    8/11/24 Devers-less Endeavor

    At a .466 winning percentage, the Sox seem to be headed for one of their worst Fenway records in the last quarter century. 1992 - 0.358 1993 - 0.457 1994 - 0.451 2012 - 0.432 2014 - 0.457 2015 - 0.432 2020 - 0.448 2022 - 0.432
  19. NeckDownAllStar

    6/5/2024 - Afternoon Delight vs Braves

    Duran is moving into some pretty good company Name,Year,Team,#Triples Harry Hooper,1920,BOS,17 Russ Scarritt,1929,BOS,17 Lou Finney,1940,BOS,15 Jim Rice,1977,BOS,15 Jim Rice,1978,BOS,15 Doug Taitt,1928,BOS,14 Joe Cronin,1935,BOS,14 Ted Williams,1940,BOS,14 Phil Todt,1925,BOS,13 Nomar...
  20. NeckDownAllStar

    The Frailty of the Modern Pitcher

    I played with some numbers to look a little farther back: In 1993, there were 49 pitchers that threw at least 200 innings, 56 at least 190, 65 at least 180. That was little changed from 10 years earlier. In 1983, there were 49 pitchers that threw at least 200 innings, 57 at least 190, 65 at...