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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    He also means that you can't have two natural DH players that are excellent hitters and horrible fielders (Devers and Casas) be the DH. And you need to carry two players for his one spot because he can't hit LHP. If Devers were a good 3b and Casas a good 1b, Yoshida, even in a platoon with...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    I agree with the bolded completely - it's what they should do. I'm saying I don't think (outside of lets say an Eovaldi type) there is any chance at all they're going to do it. We'll agree to disagree on what the plan should be assuming they aren't going to spend big on pitching. But I think...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    Did we just become best friends? In all seriousness, I don't think they could / should do unless you're talking a deal for top of the rotation pitching coming back. If you're close on hitting pieces but Seattle/ChW whomever are dragging their feet, add on a replacement back of the rotation...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    I'd say to average out as a 3.5 WAR player at 3b (ie replacing Devers WAR production, a lot of that value coming from the defensive side, admitted), and allowing Devers to replace Yoshida at DH, where I think he'd be capable of "prime" JD Martinez type WAR performance for a good long time -...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    Not for nothing, but I did include that Adames would be my third choice (personally) behind Bregman, Kim and then Adames. However, yes, it is a leap of faith that someone could switch positions, but someone that has consistently been a positive dWAR shortshop with good arm strength moving to 3b...
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    Ranking the Most Painful Red Sox to Trade: Position Player Edition

    Sure - and I outlined it in the original post. He's just a personal "binky" much like Grissom. For Gilbert I'm sending Priester too, to be clear. It was just a question of the "emotional" attachment, from the opening post, so to speak. I've always liked the prospect and how he's performed...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    Makes total sense - and fwiw, I'm just kind of using him as a "tier" and admittedly haven't looked into every player in that tier specifically. Maybe it's Hernandez or CWalker or Santander or Kim or... I'm genuinely curious - and I don't know - if there is a way to translate not HR...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    Absolutely. Wonder what we'll have to give up with Yoshida to get Ramirez, Clase and Bibee from Cleveland. Because with that one move, Boston would absolutely contend for the division. (I'm mocking the idea of there being one move to contend for the division, not you @RS2004foreever, to be...
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    Ranking the Most Painful Red Sox to Trade: Position Player Edition

    I'm not saying any of those guys aren't interesting, and I'm not even saying they're not valuable. I guess a better way of saying it is, beyond Bello, Houck and Priester, there is no pitcher in the organization I would be at all upset about being included in a trade (or straight up added to a...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    They should. I've outlined this before, but on two of the Red Sox WS winning teams, the DH was in fact the highest paid position player (Ortiz in 2013 and JDM in 2018). The idea that you can't pay a premium to a DH only (or DH primary because I think Raffy would play SOME in the field in this...
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    Boston’s taxing pursuit of Juan Soto

    I agree. I was talking in a hypothetical sense. I THINK something along those lines could in fact be a better allocation of $600m. I DO NOT think the Red Sox will do it. We agree. I think they're a serious contedner for Soto. I don't think they're at serious on Fried or Burnes. That is...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    Not for nothing, but I'd be "for it" in that I think that's about the type of player / contract that the Sox will be in play for. There are other avenues I'd prefer first, but I put Santander into a kind of a "3rd tier" bucket of how I view the off-season from an offensive standpoint. Tier 1 -...
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    Boston’s taxing pursuit of Juan Soto

    Same. In many ways, I'd prefer it to simply adding Soto to what they have. I just don't believe it's an either / or situation. Which is a shame. (Not for noting, but I do think that something like one of Santander / Hernandez / CWalker along with Eovaldi or similar is probably what you're...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    Ok, I'm glad it didn't come across that way. And yeah, I agree, they can't send him to AAA, so I probably misread (as in I thought you were equating the two, but you very well may not have been). I was thinking more along the lines of dumping him for whatever small amount of money you could...
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    Boston’s taxing pursuit of Juan Soto

    From a "roster construction" standpoint, they'd probably be 'better" served using the same money to rebuild the team in other ways, and then go after Vladdy next year. Soto is a generational talent whereas Vladdy is maybe only a "multiple time all star anchor of the line up talent" (Manny vs...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    I've been wondering, and I don't mean this to single you out, but I feel this take is somewhat overblown. For starters, it's not like Yoshida himself took any kind of "sweetheart deal" to play in Boston. He ended up in Boston because Bloom paid an insane amount more than anyone else in the...
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    Ranking the Most Painful Red Sox to Trade: Position Player Edition

    We have very different definitions of "fun." Haha. Honestly, outside of Bello, Houck and Priester, there isn't really anyone that I'd find it even slightly emotionally difficult to part with. Kind of what happens when the organization goes 5 years without bothering to address pitching.
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    Outs from somewhere: the 2025 bullpen

    The real question is did Theo Epstein build a time machine and go back and get information from himself back in 2016 about Chapman's head when he traded (at the time) uber prospect Gleyber Torres for 2 months of him because he realized "if I'm going to win a World Series here in Chicago, I need...
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    Ranking the Most Painful Red Sox to Trade: Position Player Edition

    For what it's worth, Bello would be #4 and in tier one for me. Houck would be #5, and in tier two (because he only has 3 years of control left and is 3 years older). Priester would be #7, and in tier 3 along with Grissom and Abreu. None of the other pitchers in the organization would be...
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    ‘Ready to deliver’ – The 2025 Offseason News (& rumors?) Thread

    All that Tweet does is reinforce what I've always felt. They're out on Burnes and Fried, and while I'm sure they "checked in", were never going to be in at free agent prices for those two (three if you count Snell). Now they focus on pitching because the next tier down of "available" players...
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