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    Betts/Price to LA for Verdugo/Jeter Downs/TBA

    Yes year 1 of Mookie is likely worth 50 M including his contract, unfortunately 3 years of Price is worth -55 M. Then add the 50% tax this year and 50% instead of 20 the year after. The Punto deal was a great trade for the RS and it wasn't the players that made it a great return, it was...
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    Betts/Price to LA for Verdugo/Jeter Downs/TBA

    This is wrong. Graterol is not coming from the Dodgers. so they are giving up net 60 before cash RS are getting net 70 Twins getting net - 9 So as long as cash is less than 60 M, it is tough to be hypercritical of deal. Of course, there are other factors Dodgers GFIN; RS saving 50% of real...
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    Betts/Price to LA for Verdugo/Jeter Downs/TBA

    I tried to put the trade through baseball trade values. It wouldn't go due to the Twins getting the short end. But basically the values as calculated on their site Betts 50 M Price -55 M Verdugo 48M Graterol 21M Maeda 11M So the Red Sox before their cash is added to the deal is sitting at +74...
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    Betts/Price to LA for Verdugo/Jeter Downs/TBA

    Talent-wise of course it is no contest. However, this is all about resetting the cap and the absolute fact that Betts was going to test the market unless blown away with a 12/400+ offer. Price is clearly a negative asset for the next 3 years. I think it also shows that the days of a Punto-like...
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    Lou Merloni: Mookie asking price is 12 years, $420 million.

    I know there have been many now critical of the Sale signing. Personally, at the time, I thought it was a great signing for the RS at a very fair price. So I looked back to review other's thoughts in the 1st week of the signing specifically as it refers to money spent in the thread. This is by...
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    2019-20 Offseason Discussion

    this is a better place to ask: https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?forums/face-value-ticket-swap.38/ Bottom line: It is not especially hard to get tickets to Fenway any longer. August 10th is a Monday, which should not be difficult. There are plenty of tickets available on Redsox.com...
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    Lou Merloni: Mookie asking price is 12 years, $420 million.

    People are always quick to point out that it's Henry's money and the RS make plenty of money, so who cares if he spends 12/420. That's part of the point, it is his money and in order for his investment to continue to appreciate, the RS have to make money. To get under the luxury tax this year...
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    Draft Value and the Shape of the Curve

    I just want to add the IF has really done an outstanding job. Not only in the initial analysis, but also in being willing, after reading comments to go back and modify. This is one of the best member analysis done on material in years. It answers the 2 basic questions of this thread and the...
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    MLB’s sign-stealing controversy broadens: Sources say the Red Sox used video replay room illegally in 2018

    Maybe this will finally lead to football like microphone communications for pitch calling for pitcher, catcher and bench. A major benefit would also be shaving 10+ minutes off each game
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    JD and the opt out

    Doesn't it all depend on what the players want? You can't rationally want them back at any price. JD - if he opts out (I don't think he will), do you really expect the RS to pay significantly more knowing that as a 3rd time offender there is a 50% tax? My feeling is if he opts out the RS...
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    MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred: ‘We Need To Make A Change To The Baseball’

    You can't mic from catcher to pitcher since the batter is right there listening. I am curious how many teams truly let the catchers call the game. In any event it seems analogous to football. 50 years ago, qbs called the game. Now a QB can audible to a set play, but it is the rare Manning...
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    MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred: ‘We Need To Make A Change To The Baseball’

    The overwhelming issue with baseball is not home runs or even frequent pitching changes (which I agree aren't ideal), it's the pace of the game which is up from 2 and a half hours up until the 80's to 3 hrs and 10 minutes. If you banned cell phones at games, the parks would be empty, since...
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    Rafael Devers, JD Martinez and the future at the corners

    He lost a significant amount of weight this year. From the looks of him, I would say he lost 25 pounds.
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    Rafael Devers, JD Martinez and the future at the corners

    You are correct. Thanks for checking my work. So the adjustments would be: Compared to this year: Extra salary room 2M (increase in Luxury tax) 21M Porcello 13M Moreland/Pearce 18.5M Panda savings 2M Thornburg 5M Nunez 61.5M total of savings Lost salary room 6M Betts arb est increase 10.5...
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    Rafael Devers, JD Martinez and the future at the corners

    Holt is a free agent. My error on that one, but I'm not sure if he gets more than I assigned anyway, which was 4.5M
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    Rafael Devers, JD Martinez and the future at the corners

    Before the RS spend money, I am sure they are looking at luxury tax and Betts 2021 contract. It is possible they try to reset the tax for next year instead of paying the 50% tax next year (as 3 years in a row offenders) and in the future. Just very rough calculus, assuming JD stays. The...
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    Rosenthal: Sale extension 5 years, $145 million

    Your point was that the RS should have known Sale was not confident of his ability to pitch well and therefore Sale agreed to a reasonable contract. If X had a lousy year, you could have said the same about him signing his contract. In retrospect, it isn't very hard to determine who was worth...
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    Rosenthal: Sale extension 5 years, $145 million

    Nice confirming bias. Then X signed an under market contract because obviously he knew he was going to have an off year.