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  1. ManicCompression

    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    This isn't necessarily a general truth for players of Payton's level. Look at Alex Caruso. The Bulls paid him a mid-level deal, and the Lakers said go ahead, have fun. Bucks did the same with PJ Tucker. Phoenix let Torrey Craig go, etc. If a team is in the tax and they can somewhat replicate an...
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    2021-22 NBA Off-season Thread

    This is a wild ass, never going to happen trade idea - but what about Simmons + assets going out for Paul George? For Sixers: - Better shot creator, better shooter, less of a defender but still good when he needs to turn it up, and they're not really sacrificing size or switchability For...
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    2021-22 NBA Off-season Thread

    I'm under the impression that Simmons also can't just opt out of the season without penalty - if he doesn't play, he won't get paid. The Wall and Blake and Drummond situations are different because team and player agreed that it was in both of their interests to not play. Philly could use what...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    @JM3 why don't you like short guards?
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    Lol dude I don't hate PP. I think it's great he's going to contribute good shooting for cheap. I like his energy, too. I just don't expect him to be more than that, and I definitely don't expect him to be on the Celtics for contract #2 unless it's close to the minimum. We're getting the good...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    Jalen Brunson is more efficient because he's shooting better. I never ruled out Payton shooting better, I actually noted that it's the most likely area for him to improve. And if you watched Brunson in the playoffs, you saw a guy who was overwhelmed by the level of competition because he hasn't...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    In the post you're responding to, I cited Jalen Brunson and Tyus Jones, guys who are pretty good comps for him (and for the billionth time, it's pretty f'ing hard to find comps for Payton). Neither have them have improved incrementally to the point that it mattered for the teams they were on and...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    You said that the vast majority of players improve. You qualified that as "actual NBA players" - to me that means players NBA scouts looked at and said "I think I think that guy can play in the NBA" and then a team drafts them. Your definition of this is guys who are established starters and...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    Who is saying that? Look at my original post if you want. The guys who improve most often have better physical tools than Payton. I'm not sure what would make you then compare his trajectory to any of the high upside, athletic players you're naming - it's the exact opposite point. Has Malcom...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    Look at Pritchard's draft class: https://www.nba.com/news/2020-nba-draft-results-picks-1-60 How many of those players will stall out at their current state or even fall out of the league in the next couple of years? 70-80% of the 2nd round and 40-50% of the first would be conservative...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    I don't think it's an issue of "above average". PP might get slightly better, he just won't be meaningfully better at any the things you're talking about. Like meaningfully as in noticeable to the performance of the overall team. The shooting is great, it's fun to roll out, and he could become...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    There is a reason, though. He's not going to see the floor as well as Mike Conley because he doesn't have the same kind of speed, so NBA defenders will not be afraid to get into his body at halfcourt. And all that defensive stuff is great, but kind of pointless when everyone can shoot over you...
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    Payton Pritchard drafted #26 overall

    It brings up an interesting point about physical limitations vs. skill limitations, most notably shooting. I think lots of players have the caveat "If he could shoot, then..." and there are a plenty of examples of those players putting in the work and improving drastically (though obviously...
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    Lets Talk About Drew Magary

    I used to love Magary but haven't read him in at least a year and a half (or since Defector started) and I don't miss his work. I think at the time I liked his cynicism because it matched well with my young-ish person worldview, but I've gotten older and less cynical. I realized that I don't -...
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    2021-22 NBA Off-season Thread

    Isn't Simmons a downgrade on Jaylen at this point? I feel like a majority of GMS would prefer Jaylen over Simmons and I think he currently has more value around the league because he fits on more teams. If we have Beal in this hypothetical, I'm not sure what from a skills perspective Simmons is...
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    2021-22 NBA Off-season Thread

    Why not Simmons for Siakam + a first (or whatever trimmings needed to make it work)? Challenge trade and I'm not sure it matches w/ Toronto's timeline, but Siakam and Embiid are tight and Siakam can replicate some of the defense, transition offense, and physicality of Simmons while offering...
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    2021-22 NBA Off-season Thread

    I feel like this is "equivalent value" for Simmons, but I don't know why Philly would do this trade because those pieces plus Embiid would make the team worse than it currently is. As flawed as Simmons can be, he still adds quite a bit on defense and helps win games in the regular season. Rui...
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    Free Agency Frenzy Thread

    Nance was one of the few good perimeter defenders they had and now they're replacing him with a guy who can't guard 4s or 5s. Why not just trade Nance for picks? This team isn't going anywhere with this roster unless Mobley really pops. They have one player - Okoro - who can guard wings...
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    Nerlens Noel v. Rich Paul and Klutch

    Paul's client list is also not really a who's who of the NBA: https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Rich-Paul/258 (I believe this is an accurate list, so correct me if I'm wrong). He has Lebron, Davis, Draymond, and Ben Simmons, but the rest of his clients are not even all-star...
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    Golf equipment, WITB

    I have some Taylor Made irons (Rac CB and MB combo set) and one of the things I like about them is that they're more traditional lofts, so the pitching wedge is 48 degrees. They're getting on 13 years old or so and have been nicked up to the point where I'm looking for new irons. One of the...