If the lakers send AD to the nets for KD, suddenly there are a whole lot of center minutes available there.
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Given his injury history.. which place are you referring to?
Or is that a joke you’re making?
NYK are predictable if nothing elsethe pièce de résistance will be when they get fined/lose a 2nd for tampering
https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/knicks-jalen-brunson-free-agent-tampering-contract-maverickspredictable
Yes, i guess he could walk to San Antonio, or maybe Houston and just sign for as much money as they have available (or max cap, whatever is less)
But basically it seems like he and the league are waiting around to see what NJ does. Certainly possible an opportunity opens up that is more appealing to him. I do wonder how long people are going to wait, because it could happen this evening, or Nets could just decide they won't deal him
I see. So his motivation is he probably prefers playing in BK to whatever is left on the table. Makes sense.
Does Draft Kings have a wager up yet for "Who will play more games for Brooklyn, Ben Simmons or TJ Warren?" yet? I might not bet against Warren. Because I think he can break the ten game barrier.
Really disappointing the Cs couldn’t get him. Not sure why Warren felt like he wanted to rush into the Nets situation. Who knows what that team will look like by the time the season starts.
Damnit.
View: https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1544534982139338752
Free agent Thomas Bryant has reached an agreement with the Los Angeles Lakers on a one-year deal and will be given opportunity to win starting center position, league sources tell @YahooSports:
View: https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1544534982139338752
Free agent Thomas Bryant has reached an agreement with the Los Angeles Lakers on a one-year deal and will be given opportunity to win starting center position, league sources tell @YahooSports:
Hard to be unhappy with that potential on a minimum contract, but them quadrupling down on a guy who barely plays isn't really ideal, imo. Their top 4 (assuming it includes Warren) has averaged 30 (Durant), 34 (Kyrie), 38 (Simmons) and 24 (Warren) games in each of the last 3 seasons. This makes the Clippers core with Kawhi and George look dependable.
Jeez, Cs lose their best options at backup center and wing on the same, damn night. And both go to hated rivals
Had a feeling that was coming. At the minimum it is going to be really tough for a young guy (and his agent) not to follow the minutes. Even though the Celtics do have time available for this role there is little hope for starting without injuries.
Warren was never signing here with two elite wings in front of him and an unclear role.
There are still guys out there at both spots. And maybe things will pick up a bit with the KD/KI business cooling.
Warren was never signing here with two elite wings in front of him and an unclear role.
There are still guys out there at both spots. And maybe things will pick up a bit with the KD/KI business cooling.
View: https://twitter.com/ekoreen/status/1544780747919204352
Well Kurucs is going to SL with the Jazz, so that gives a pretty good indication how much teams/the league cares.
View: https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1544784896673169408
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not only did the Wiz give Beal 5/251M.... THEY GAVE HIM THE LEAGUE'S ONLY NO TRADE CLAUSE!
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not only did the Wiz give Beal 5/251M.... THEY GAVE HIM THE LEAGUE'S ONLY NO TRADE CLAUSE!
Fucking unreal for a guy who finished last year with a 2 DARKO (trending down hard) and a 0.8 BPM.
Not necessarily. It sounds like their due diligence could have shown no pattern of this behavior. Whereas the Hornets apparently knew about Bridges history and pattern which is why they were prepared to let him walk rather than offering him a max deal. We aren’t privy to any of it so who knows though.
His contract may be untra
Yeah, their decision is a lot more understandable now. Though, that really just pushes back the timeline---did they shop him at deadline knowing they likely weren't going to max him for these reasons? Haven't seen any reporting they did, though that's quite an imperfect source of information.
From the sound of things it seems that Bridges transgressions were well known. I doubt these secrets would be staying in house and that they didn’t really try to move his expiring contract bc they knew teams wouldn’t want to deal with the baggage.
Possible--we're into the darkest of grey types of information, right? I gotta say, I saw absolutely zero stories or suggestions from 'in the know' people about Bridges. Not one podcaster or writer who suggested "there's chemistry concerns" or even "there's less interest than you might think around him" or ANYTHING. But, that doesn't mean teams weren't wise to his stuff.
Did you hear/see anything at all?
Yes, from his wife’s statement saying that she won’t allow the people around him to continue to silence her. I find it hard to believe the Hornets weren’t aware and their head scratcher of not offering him a max deal now makes sense.
I'd buy that more if the Raptors didn't also have Terrence Davis (who took a deal on DV charges last year) and Adrian Griffin who has been accused of DV as well. The Raps have been pretty clear, if you don't go to prison and can play... they don't care. that's to be fair also been the view of the league... even if you do go to jail, if you can play you get to.
Edit- generally the NBA approach to all criminal issues is to pretend they didn't happen. That may change if something catches the public, and possibly if the owners want to make it an issue in the next CBA, but generally the CBA is incredibly favorable to players on off-court issues. They've been lucky enough to skate on public outcry because it hasn't been stars and honestly the audience isn't as big as the NFL.
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If/when the cap goes up there is a chance his max is 15% lower? What if his max is 10% lower, would they bump it up 10 or would it have to be the full 15 or nothing?
It's so bad. He stunk last year, and even when he was at 30 ppg the team wasn't very good. He absolutely can't be the best player on a contending team and yet, he gets that contract. The Wizards just go done with the Wall ordeal too.
The only guys I want on the super-duper max are like, KD, Curry, Giannis, LeBron and Kawhi because you know they can be the best guys on a title team. I'd also accept young alphas that look like they'll be capable of that, like Tatum, Jokic and Embiid. A deceisvley "B" tier star like Beal shouldn't sniff that contract.
Yep, he is like Carmelo in his prime, a guy who could actually be a third guy on a title team if he just accepted that, but he'd prefer to get paid like a #1 and never win anything.
I know it is very unlikely, but I would be greatly entertained if Brooklyn can't find a deal that it wants for either Durant or Kyrie and convinces both of them to buy into at least one more year of playing together. And then Ben gets on the court too.
I want all the drama, sure, but I'm also curious what that could look like on the court if everyone is healthy and playing together for a little while.
I want all the drama, sure, but I'm also curious what that could look like on the court if everyone is healthy and playing together for a little while.
I agree but this has to be as much about keeping fans interested in the laundry as it does about winning. He’s their star and it’s generally good for business to keep those guys on your team. They can make the playoffs with Beal as their best player, and maybe that’s enough for now. Also, damn he has a good agent.
Isn’t that a no-brainer of a business decision though? Who would accept half of their pay in any job?
Tom Brady
That major outlier aside, your point still stands though about taking the money and running.
I mean, I am an outlier to our species in many ways but if I was in that position (15-25th best player in the league, let's say), once I hit FA, I would try to find a place to slot in behind two even better players, the Chris Bosh route over the Melo/Beal one. If my career earnings ended up at $250M instead of $400M because of that, that tradeoff would be OK with me, and in fact I would be willing to go down to $150M to have the career of Robert Horry, 7 titles and 7-0 in Finals.
Facts not in evidence.
| Season | GP | W | L | W–L% | Finish | Playoffs |
| 2017–18 | 82 | 43 | 39 | .524 | 2nd, Southeast | Lost in First Round, 2–4 (Raptors) |
| 2018–19 | 82 | 32 | 50 | .390 | 4th, Southeast | Did not qualify |
| 2019–20 | 72 | 25 | 47 | .347 | 3rd, Southeast | Did not qualify |
| 2020–21 | 72 | 34 | 38 | .472 | 3rd, Southeast | Lost in First Round, 1–4 (76ers) |
| 2021–22 | 82 | 35 | 47 | .427 | 4th, Southeast | Did not qualify |
I think the problem with taking a huge pay cut to play on a loaded team is that we've seen plenty of loaded teams have unsuccessful runs. And when a team has the highest of expectations and fails, fingers start to get pointed and the fans and press turn on you quick. Dealing with all of that and also not getting paid really sucks.
Find a team that will pay you well, that has teammates you like being around, and with an organization that respects you. Even if it looks like a bad situation on the court, sometimes that can change more quickly than some of those other things.
Find a team that will pay you well, that has teammates you like being around, and with an organization that respects you. Even if it looks like a bad situation on the court, sometimes that can change more quickly than some of those other things.
The confidence and ego a player must have to be the top 15-25 player in the league would never allow that person to think there are two better players than them in the league much less on the same team .
My Chris Bosh example? He was a five-time All-Star at 25 when he went to Miami, and the clear #3 from day 1.
One thing with this is Bosh signed the exact same contract as LeBron, both of whom signed slightly bigger contracts than Wade IIRC. They all took minor pay cuts together.
A clear pecking order on the court, yes, but the contract gave a lot of cover where status was concerned.
Same, and I actually think it is currently most likely outcome.
Nets can’t afford to tank given they have noneof their own picks, and who has enough spare talent to cough up a couple of all stars and picks and still be competitive enough with KD to win?
Cs could I suppose (I’m out because the madness factor isn’t worth the slightly increased win chance for one year) but I’m still awaiting the fitting suitor.
KD is a top 3 player, but 34 year-olds with injury histories decline rapidly all the time. You're probably getting a 2 year window with KD as The Guy.
The Nets just had that guy for two straight postseasons, and won 1 series. Yes, there were health problems, but that's the thing with short windows: shit happens, and suddenly the window has closed.
I know the common wisdom was that this would be an unprecedented haul, but I'm not seeing it. Teams seem very, very reluctant to part with young stars to get that, particularly if they're expected to give up picks too.
Totally agree that "run it back" has a greater chance than people think, at least to start the year. Rehabilitating Simmons before dealing KD would also be useful.
Also, Bosh was a play finisher, not a play starter. Beal typically has the ball in his hands, so it's not as easy for him to take a back seat. You're not going to ask him to be a 3 and D player because he's not great at the D or 3 part of that role.
I love the posters saying $150 million is trivial. First off, these guys do pay taxes on their salary, so $250 million is actually more like $125 million, and that doesn't include agent fees, lawyers, and the other things of that nature. You can't take for granted this one opportunity to make money in your life and ensure your grandkids' grandkids' grandkids can go to whatever college they want, never have to worry about housing in their life, etc.
Are any of us taking less money to work for the most efficient company? Or the best performing team? Shit no. And you can tell me it's not the same, but then I'm sure someone working as a cashier in a grocery store is looking at our cushy jobs and wonders why we fight for raises in our positions when our salary would be plenty for them. Why should athletes not fight for every cent they can get? They have the most rare skills on earth.
The league is making money hand over fist. They're about to come to a new TV deal that is 2-3X their current one. All that BRI has to go somewhere - not everyone has a Lebron, or a playoff roster - so some of these guys are going to sign what are viewed as bad contracts. That's overall a good thing for basketball and as we've seen over the last few years, no contract is immovable. Just last year people were saying the same thing about the Gobert contract aging poorly and look what happened.
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