The Bummock: League One and Below

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Goal is to get this thread to a second page. We'll see. It may make it as a dumping ground for all lower league news...

Our heroes in Blue and White did a masterful job of clearing the decks of a sinking ship and thanks to Darren Moore's efforts have brought in 13 players who will feature for the first team this year. So far so good and the football has been downright delicious at times. I was optimistic coming into the season (I predicted 5th) and barring catastrophy, I think we might even be a bit better, though I haven't seen all of the other teams yet.

Portsmouth and Burton Albion remain the two perfect teams, with 9 from 3, with Wycombe, Wednesday, and Oxford on 7 points. Rotherham rounds out the top six on 6 points with the best GD. Big game this weekend sees Wednesday take the short trip to The New York Stadium to play Rotherham whose fans continue to assure us this is a derby. Should actually be a really fun game as Rotherham's hyper aggressive pressing destroyed us twice last season, but so far this season we seem to have the players with the skill to break a press under control. Good early season barometer for both clubs.

So far I've seen Charlton (under Nigel Atkins) who were solid, Doncaster who were okay, and Fleetwood who was poor. Preseason experts loved Wigan and Ipswich's offseasons, thought Sunderland and Charlton were ready to make the leap, and that Wycombe and Rotherham would threaten to bounce right back up. The quality of this league is not great, although it is miles ahead of where it was last time Wednesday were in this division.
 

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You might get some Spurs fans like me checking in on this thread as Troy Parrott is now 2 goals and an assist in 2 games for M.K. Dons.
 

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Well, Wigan had nowhere to go but up after the past two seasons. Hopefully they now have honest owners and can build from there.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Hopefully.

Everything I read and listened to preseason loved the signings you made. 4 points from the three games you’ve had looks like a decent return.
 

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I don't have much to add other than I've been to Wycombe Wanders stadium, and I used to manage Shrewsbury Town a lot in Football Manager cause it shares it name with where I used to live.
 

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As someone who lived near Ipswich in the glory days of the late 70s and went to a lot of games, I can't believe they are still in League One. Hopefully the new owners get them headed in the right direction.
 

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2-0 to The Wednesday…Moore set them up to defend and withstand the pressure, hit on the counter. Very different from the usual approach. Fans did a lot of grousing during the first half but the plan worked with a 50’ goal on the counter before Lee Gregory poached a bobbled ball from their keeper at 77’. Bradley Peacock-Farrell (on loan from Burnley) stopped a pen in added time of the first half and was real good the rest of the day.

4 clean sheets and 10 points to start the campaign is the stuff happiness is made of.
 

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As always I'll be keeping an occasional eye on Whitehawk FC, Brighton's "other" club. Got a bunch of momentum in the early/mid teens and managed several promotions in a row into Conference South. They've sunk a bit since that high water mark and are now in the Isthmian Southeast (level 8 in they pyramid). Around the height of their success, they appealed to the FA to rename themselves Brighton City, but BHAFC objected and they were denied. Also, their badge is suspiciously reminiscent of Palace's. Despite these possible attempts to establish the barest fringes of a rivalry, I get the impression most Albion supporters have no ill will towards Whitehawk and consider them a decent local option for a match and a pint or two.
 

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Happy 154th birthday to the Massive.

Sunderland had 3 players on international duty today (all youth internationals which is dumb) which allowed them to postpone today’s game at Hillsborough. Too bad it would have been a top of the table clash and a good early season barometer.
 

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Hey-

If anyone gets bored of champions League and wants to watch The Wednesday play with a back three consisting of:

1. A more or less striker
2. A former CDM who plays FB
3. A LW

It should be glorious one way or the other...
 

Dummy Hoy

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League One:

Wigan and Rotherham up to the Championship
Gillingham, Doncaster, Wimbledon, and Crewe down to League Two

Playoffs next week:
Thursday/Sunday MK Dons (3) v. Wycombe Wanderers (6)
Friday/Monday Sheffield Wednesday (4) v. Sunderland (5)

Final on 5/21,
 

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League One:

Wigan and Rotherham up to the Championship
Gillingham, Doncaster, Wimbledon, and Crewe down to League Two

Playoffs next week:
Thursday/Sunday MK Dons (3) v. Wycombe Wanderers (6)
Friday/Monday Sheffield Wednesday (4) v. Sunderland (5)

Final on 5/21,
So … is this going to be the year Sunderland finally make it back to the Promised Land?
 

Dummy Hoy

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So … is this going to be the year Sunderland finally make it back to the Promised Land?
No. They will lose to The Massive in the semi finals

Friend is a Plymouth Argyle supporter... talk about a no-show
tough year…they played the best football I saw all year in this division, their coach left and they still held on until the end but woof. I wasn’t overly impressed with MKD either, although Scott Twine is the truth. He’ll be in the Premiership someday.

The promised land of the Championship?
hey, that’s all some of us have bud.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Wycombe did what they do, uglied it up, knocked some people over, wasted some time and won the home leg 2-0 tonight.
 

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So am I reading that correctly, that Wimbledon and MK Dons may pass each other on the escalator?
 

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So am I reading that correctly, that Wimbledon and MK Dons may pass each other on the escalator?
They were both in league one this season, Wimbledon got relegated, MK Dons are in the promotion playoffs.

I don’t think Wimbledon have ever been in a higher division than MK.
 

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As always I'll be keeping an occasional eye on Whitehawk FC, Brighton's "other" club…., Despite these possible attempts to establish the barest fringes of a rivalry, I get the impression most Albion supporters have no ill will towards Whitehawk and consider them a decent local option for a match and a pint or two.
A Whitehawk would surely devour a Seagull yes?
 

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A Whitehawk would surely devour a Seagull yes?
I was listening to The Five Year Plan (Crystal Palace for those that don’t know) podcast a few years ago and they told a story about some kind of boat ride or something for Palace fans (ferry, pleasure cruise, I have no idea, but it wasn’t all Palace fans on the boat). A seagull came and landed on the boat, and all of the Palace fans started booing the Seagull, which they admitted was behavior from a bunch of middle-aged men that they found kind of difficult to explain to the other passengers.
 

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They were both in league one this season, Wimbledon got relegated, MK Dons are in the promotion playoffs.

I don’t think Wimbledon have ever been in a higher division than MK.
They have not. And they're going down this season. :-(

I was listening to The Five Year Plan (Crystal Palace for those that don’t know) podcast a few years ago and they told a story about some kind of boat ride or something for Palace fans (ferry, pleasure cruise, I have no idea, but it wasn’t all Palace fans on the boat). A seagull came and landed on the boat, and all of the Palace fans started booing the Seagull, which they admitted was behavior from a bunch of middle-aged men that they found kind of difficult to explain to the other passengers.
I was running yesterday afternoon and a couple of people passed me on the bike path...I was wearing a blue and white striped kit (a good one, not a shitty south coast knock off) but one of the older guys (who was wearing a palce warm up jacket) made some gesture and noise at me :-D

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Dummy Hoy

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They actually have. In 2018-19 Wimbledon was in League One while MK Dons spent a single season in League Two before being promoted back up.
Nice. Certainly had forgotten that. It’s too bad…sucks that MKD is a well run and progressive team
 

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Nice. Certainly had forgotten that. It’s too bad…sucks that MKD is a well run and progressive team
Yeah, I would enjoy it if MKD fell flat on their face and got relegated out of the Football League while Wimbledon made a run to the Championship, but MKD actually is pretty well run. I think I'd mostly forgive them if they dropped "Dons" from their name.
 

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Yeah, I would enjoy it if MKD fell flat on their face and got relegated out of the Football League while Wimbledon made a run to the Championship, but MKD actually is pretty well run. I think I'd mostly forgive them if they dropped "Dons" from their name.
Its the greatest sin. Just give it back.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Wednesday with a well played defensive game plan, one individual error off of chaos cost them. Feeling okay going home.

Great atmosphere, I’d expect the same on Monday when the best home team in the league takes the field.
 

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Nice. Certainly had forgotten that. It’s too bad…sucks that MKD is a well run and progressive team
you know what I was thinking of? Wimbledon was one of only two clubs in the EFL to never have been relegated…until this year. Morecambe the other
 

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Wednesday with a well played defensive game plan, one individual error off of chaos cost them. Feeling okay going home.

Great atmosphere, I’d expect the same on Monday when the best home team in the league takes the field.
Go get them. I promise that you'll be able to hear my giggles from here if Sunderland stay down. Season 3 of the documentary is going to be on, like, Tubi, because Sunderland have already been relegated from Netflix.
 

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Fourth tier promo race is insane. Northampton in third go up by winning at Barrow... unless Bristol Rovers, home to relegated Scunthorpe, can overcome a five goal GD deficit... which they might. Anyone down to seventh placed Swindon can mathematically go up, and down to ninth can make the playoffs.
 

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Fourth tier promo race is insane. Northampton in third go up by winning at Barrow... unless Bristol Rovers, home to relegated Scunthorpe, can overcome a five goal GD deficit... which they might. Anyone down to seventh placed Swindon can mathematically go up, and down to ninth can make the playoffs.
And the Geordie Maradona scores the goal to send Bristol Rovers up!
 

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Exciting as hell finish. Though, by the testimony of Scunthorpe fans (and the squad numbers listed) the Iron fielded a number of youth teamers in a manner which would have everyone winking knowingly if it happened in Italy.
 

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Wednesday with a well played defensive game plan, one individual error off of chaos cost them. Feeling okay going home.

Great atmosphere, I’d expect the same on Monday when the best home team in the league takes the field.
fyi the second leg is on ESPN+ at 2:45
 

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My friend's family owns Wycombe, would love to see them get another shot at the Championship for a full season of packed stands at Adams Park. C'mon, Chairboys!
 

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Wednesday fans are furious at Sunderland for taking frankly pretty normal amounts of time to do things because of course it's cynical time wasting. It's very fun.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Fun for some, less fun for others.

Sunderland deserved this over two legs. I hope they go up, they deserve to be in a higher league.

Feels like next year is one more chance to bounce right up before getting sucked into the quagmire for a few turns. Christ I don’t want to deal with that.
 

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Fun for some, less fun for others.

Sunderland deserved this over two legs. I hope they go up, they deserve to be in a higher league.

Feels like next year is one more chance to bounce right up before getting sucked into the quagmire for a few turns. Christ I don’t want to deal with that.
Bummer of a result on your end for sure, but a hell of a game (in terms of tension if not end to end quality) and you could feel the intensity of those fans.
 

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Fun for some, less fun for others.

Sunderland deserved this over two legs. I hope they go up, they deserve to be in a higher league.

Feels like next year is one more chance to bounce right up before getting sucked into the quagmire for a few turns. Christ I don’t want to deal with that.
Sorry pal. We will not lock horns next year. The year after looks good. You pick the league.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Bummer of a result on your end for sure, but a hell of a game (in terms of tension if not end to end quality) and you could feel the intensity of those fans.
Tension yes, game no. Quality was poor and I've seen both teams play quite well at times this year.

Both road teams set up to stymie their high scoring opponents, albeit in slightly different manner. A Sam Hutchinson mistake in the first leg was the only blemish and Sunderland capitalized. That ended uyp being the difference.