Celtics vs Nets prediction poll

Who wins/how many games?


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benhogan

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ESPN writers and Vegas have Brooklyn winning this series. The Celtics are aware and waiting. The Nets give up too many easy baskets. Boston digs in on defense and makes the Nets work for every shot. The best way to expose Boston is to turn them over and get transition baskets, the Nets on-ball pressure won't do that.

Boston in 5 (obviously I'm way too optimistic)
 

djbayko

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ESPN writers and Vegas have Brooklyn winning this series. The Celtics are aware and waiting. The Nets give up too many easy baskets. Boston digs in on defense and makes the Nets work for every shot. The best way to expose Boston is to turn them over and get transition baskets, the Nets on-ball pressure won't do that.

Boston in 5 (obviously I'm way too optimistic)
Pretty sure this is not true. Everywhere I look, the odds are roughly Celtics -140. Opening odds might have been different, but you should never go by what the openers say.
 

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I haven’t found the Celtics as underdogs anywhere, and would bet the fuck out of that. Fuck these frauds and their flat earth fuck face PG. C’s in 5 and Ben Simmons can pretend he was totally about to play if they made it to game 6.

DPOY Smart is going to make someone cry during this series.
 

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Pretty sure this is not true. Everywhere I look, the odds are roughly Celtics -140. Opening odds might have been different, but you should never go by what the openers say.
FWIW, I was stuck listening to some espn-y type radio show while waiting in the cell phone lot at an airport yesterday and the dude was going on and on about exactly this fact -- that the opening from some Vegas bookmaker was with Brooklyn as the favorite out of the gate. The dude then discussed how quickly the line slid to Cs at -140, but none the less, he was saying exactly what benhogan wrote.
 

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I think the Celts will lose game 1 and then win in 6 games.
 

djbayko

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FWIW, I was stuck listening to some espn-y type radio show while waiting in the cell phone lot at an airport yesterday and the dude was going on and on about exactly this fact -- that the opening from some Vegas bookmaker was with Brooklyn as the favorite out of the gate. The dude then discussed how quickly the line slid to Cs at -140, but none the less, he was saying exactly what benhogan wrote.
Okay, but benhogan wrote that less than an hour ago. Openers were yesterday. "Vegas" has thought the Celtics were favorites since shortly after the openers were released. Openers mean nothing - they're rough starting points for real trading. Sportsbooks limit action on them because they haven’t been vetted yet.
 
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Okay, but benhogan wrote that less than an hour ago. Openers were yesterday. "Vegas" has thought the Celtics were favorites since shortly after the openers were released. Openers mean nothing - they're rough starting points for real trading. That’s why sportsbooks limit action on them - because they haven’t been vetted yet.
For roughly 2 hours on Tuesday evening, Caesars had Cs as underdogs but every other book did not so if you could bet those lines, you were guaranteed $150 on $1000 bet.

Alas, most of us weren't paying attention.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/33737008/how-bettors-took-advantage-nets-celtics-opening-series-odds
 

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Celts in 7. Time Lord to the rescue late in the series. Before that, Kyrie will put on a show and dazzle the crowd. Then Time Lord will swat away all his pretty layup attempts.
 

benhogan

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Okay, but benhogan wrote that less than an hour ago. Openers were yesterday. "Vegas" has thought the Celtics were favorites since shortly after the openers were released. Openers mean nothing - they're rough starting points for real trading. Sportsbooks limit action on them because they haven’t been vetted yet.
I used this line from an ESPN article for my offhanded Vegas comment:

Despite being in the play-in, the Nets have the second-best odds of winning the Eastern Conference according to lines from Caesars Sportsbook -- just ahead of the Celtics. While Brooklyn was tumbling down the East standings, Boston was surging from below .500 as recently as Jan. 21 to finish with the conference's second seed in the playoffs after winning Sunday's season finale to pass the Milwaukee Bucks in the standings.
 

lars10

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I said Celts in five... I don't expect to see the team that played in the play-in game be able to hold off a much more talented offensive and defensive team. Brooklyn struggled a bit to close out the Cavs with barely a star player on its roster (yes they were ahead by 20, but Cleveland closed it late when they actually started to make some shots.) Let's see what they do against a team with multiple legit stars and shooters. Durant and Kyrie will get their points, but the Celts are moving the ball on offense as good as any team in the NBA right now.. and their defense even without Timelord has gotten a lot better over the last few games. Should be an interesting series.. but don't expect Brooklyn's 3-10 to be the x-factor to lead Brooklyn to a win.
 

djbayko

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I used this line from an ESPN article for my offhanded Vegas comment:

Despite being in the play-in, the Nets have the second-best odds of winning the Eastern Conference according to lines from Caesars Sportsbook -- just ahead of the Celtics. While Brooklyn was tumbling down the East standings, Boston was surging from below .500 as recently as Jan. 21 to finish with the conference's second seed in the playoffs after winning Sunday's season finale to pass the Milwaukee Bucks in the standings.
Hey man. I wasn't trying to ridicule you. I'm sure you had your reasons for posting that. Just correcting the record, that's all. Ceasars' series odds are actually aligned with the rest of the market (Celts -145). There must be something else going into those Eastern Conference odds. Perhaps Caesars has a lot of liability on Nets futures from earlier in the season.
 
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benhogan

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Hey man. I wasn't trying to ridicule you. I'm sure you had your reasons for posting that. Just correcting the record, that's all. Ceasars' series odds are actually aligned with the rest of the market (Celts -145). There must be something else going into those Eastern Conference odds. Perhaps Caesars has a lot of liability on Nets futures from earlier in the season.
That's cool, I didn't bother checking online for Vegas once I read the ESPN article. Frankly, I was kind of surprised, as were the sharps. Looks like Caesar's got lit up straight away.
 

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Hey man. I wasn't trying to ridicule you. I'm sure you had your reasons for posting that. Just correcting the record, that's all. Ceasars' series odds are actually aligned with the rest of the market (Celts -145). There must be something else going into those Eastern Conference odds. Perhaps Caesars has a lot of liability on Nets futures from earlier in the season.
The article was probably written at the time the market opened which would have been correct as the Nets opened as -130 favorites in most places (some were -125). The market quickly began hammering the Celtics shortly thereafter.

As far as prediction goes the Celtics are the much better and well rounded team here. I agree with the market, and most everyone here, that Boston wins in 6. The Nets are a wildcard here…..I could see Durant/Kyrie making this a long series or I could see them pouting and be swept. They defend in spurts and while awful defending in transition they play a slower pace with this current lineup (their faster reg season pace is misleading) so this is somewhat cloudy pre-series. I expect the latter games to be easier to handicap once we see this Nets team in higher leverage games and how they respond. I’m not high on them without a healthy Simmons which we’ve known now for a month that isn’t going to happen.
 
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Maybe too topical/V&N, but I get a distinct "Russian military" vibe from the Nets, in terms of its perception of superiority and lack of ability in critical areas that will be exposed when the action starts.
 

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I think in order of likely outcomes, I’d go

Celts in 6
Celts in 5/Nets in 7
Nets in 6
Is the second line a typo where it’s supposed to say Celts in 7?

Regardless I think it’s Celts in 6 (although 5 wouldn’t surprise me). I think the Celtics will be able to get easy buckets against the Nets D and effectively shut down any player not named Kyrie/KD.

Between Bruce Brown and the media, Ime has been given A LOT of bulletin board material. It’s definitely not the most important thing but in a series that’s supposed to be evenly matched, you have to like the extra motivation
 

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Is the second line a typo where it’s supposed to say Celts in 7?

Regardless I think it’s Celts in 6 (although 5 wouldn’t surprise me). I think the Celtics will be able to get easy buckets against the Nets D and effectively shut down any player not named Kyrie/KD.

Between Bruce Brown and the media, Ime has been given A LOT of bulletin board material. It’s definitely not the most important thing but in a series that’s supposed to be evenly matched, you have to like the extra motivation
I think the Celtics are clearly the better team and should win in 6 (or 5), but I’d have a really tough time betting against KD in a game 7. It’s not based on anything other than a fear of Durant lol.

Fortunately I just don’t see this taking a 7th game.
 

bigq

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KD frightens me. He will put the Nets on his back and have some huge performances in this series. I think the Celtics will have a couple of games where they are getting good looks but shots are not going down. Kyrie will Jekyll and Hyde his way to a couple of big games as well as a couple of disappearing acts but will generally be a continuous pest. This series will feature harmful blood pressure spikes and deleterious binge drinking from the Port Cellar faithful. I can't wait. Celtics in 7.
 

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Celtics are better and should win the series. But you KNOW that KD and Kyrie are going to go OFF in some games, and that probably will be enough for them to win twice.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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It's really really difficult to win a 4 game series on pure shotmaking alone, even as elite at it as those two are. Kyrie is also not immune from putting up playoff stinkers as we well know. He's going to have some 5-18 type lines here which is not going to be enough for them, and as Kliq mentions above if the series is going poorly he is liable to go off the rails in some fashion.

I predicted Celtics in 6 but if they maintain the ball movement offense and don't turn it over too much they can absolutely take it sooner. KD/Kyrie going nuclear alone isn't enough for the Nets to win games, whereas if the Celtics team O stays on the same heater they've been on it's a massive uphill climb for Brooklyn because we know Boston is putting in the work on D.
 

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I think Boston will win in 5 or maybe 6, but I am seeing pretty good odds on them sweeping (+1400) which seems like a definite possibility when you think about the personalities on the Nets and that the first two are in Boston. I could see the Celtics winning the first two fairly close games, and then the Celtics going up in game 3 and the Nets just getting frustrated and kind of packing it in.

Most likely case, the Nets win one of the first three on an incredible KI / KD performance to give them hope but they can't do that more than one or two games and the clincher is a blowout.
 

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I picked Celtics in 6 not because I think this series will be particularly "close" but because KD is good enough to steal a game or two on his own. I think this will be a relatively one-sided 6 game series where the Celtics win by a comfortable margin in 4 games while the Nets take two close ones on MVP type shooting performances by Durant.
 

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I went 6, I think it's 2-2 with KD having some huge games, and the Nets having some success targeting the bigs, and people start getting worried, then the Celtics take game 5 at home, and TL returns for game 6 and the Celtics close it out
 

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The article was probably written at the time the market opened which would have been correct as the Nets opened as -130 favorites in most places (some were -125). The market quickly began hammering the Celtics shortly thereafter.

As far as prediction goes the Celtics are the much better and well rounded team here. I agree with the market, and most everyone here, that Boston wins in 6. The Nets are a wildcard here…..I could see Durant/Kyrie making this a long series or I could see them pouting and be swept. They defend in spurts and while awful defending in transition they play a slower pace with this current lineup (their faster reg season pace is misleading) so this is somewhat cloudy pre-series. I expect the latter games to be easier to handicap once we see this Nets team in higher leverage games and how they respond. I’m not high on them without a healthy Simmons which we’ve known now for a month that isn’t going to happen.
Pretty much everything here, especially the bolded.
 

Deathofthebambino

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I like the C's in 6.

But I will not be surprised if there aren't at least a couple of games, in which the refs are the wildcard. Superstars get calls, unless they wear green, and if Durant/Kyrie find a way to put Theis or Al in early trouble, not having TL could be an issue.

Bottom line, if the C's shoot like they have been, they win games easily. If they don't shoot well, we'll see close games, and I don't love our chances in close games against a team with two finishers like Durant and Kyrie.
 

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I went Cs in 6 but stared at 5 for a long time.

Ultimately the Nets are a couple shotmakers plus dreck, but KD is a monster and was showing impressive effort on D as well against Cavs. He always scares me. Now maybe this vanishes over long series, but it’s So….Stretched…Out that he may be able to sustain the effort.

If the voices in Kyries head have him on his game he could win one too.

So Cs in 6.
 

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I think folks are way too optimistic. Expected on a Celtics board but the Nets have two incredible scorers and as good as the Celtics are there are going to be at least a few games in this series where they’re going to have to keep up with Durant and/or Kyrie on fire and the Celtics offense, while very good late on the season, certainly seems to have some weakness in not having a ton of deadeye shooters. Shutting down Tatum isn’t easy but we saw enough nights this year where he just couldn’t get it to drop. If those nights coincide with a Kyrie or Durant on fire night we will really struggle to keep up
 

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I will say, one big wildcard is Curry. not having TL means less cleanup and rim protection, which means more cheating off guys to help with KD and Kyrie because there isn't a TL who can cover to the rim off the weakest shooter, that means Curry might have more space and you could see a couple big games from him
 

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I want to live in the world 538 is living. Celtics prohibitive favorites to win it all, 32% based on RAPTOR player ratings and 44% on Elo team forecasts. Next closest are the Suns at 21% and 22% respectively.

They aren't fans of the Nets at all, even the RAPTOR ratings which presumably account for full strength KD/Kyrie (though probably not Simmons) have them at 2% chance to win it all. And an 18% chance to win this series against the Celtics.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nba-predictions/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Edit: looking closer, the current Nets rotation doesn't include Simmons but has some glitch with only 19 minutes projected for Kyrie (probably outdated and vaccine related since he looks about half-time). Need to bump them up a little for that since obviously that won't be the case. Simmons and Timelord only included in the "full strength" predictions.
 
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KD and Kyrie are going to get calls that will piss us off as fans. The main way I can imagine the C's losing is if those calls get under their skin. If they put their collective heads down, regroup and get back on defense consistently I think they win this series in 5.
 

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FWIW the Athletic polled an unnamed NBA scout, coach and exec for predictions: the first two picked the Nets, the latter picked the C's. But then there's this - C's face the Suns in the finals:


Note: shoulda been Celtics-Warriors that year had Rick Barry not quit on the team, so maybe this year we get to taste that matchup. :)

Note #2: Steph’s apparently good to go for Game One v Denver and wants a piece of Marcus Smart in the Finals. (Yes, I know he didn’t blame Smart for his injury, nor do I, just getting in some early trash talk…)
 
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Note: shoulda been Celtics-Warriors that year had Rick Barry not quit on the team, so maybe this year we get to taste that matchup. :)

Note #2: Steph’s apparently good to go for Game One v Denver and wants a piece of Marcus Smart in the Finals. (Yes, I know he didn’t blame Smart for his injury, nor do I, just getting in some early trash talk…)
Would Curry and Smart even play against eachother that much, what with Curry coming off the bench for Poole? ;)
 

Toe Nash

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I think Boston will win in 5 or maybe 6, but I am seeing pretty good odds on them sweeping (+1400) which seems like a definite possibility when you think about the personalities on the Nets and that the first two are in Boston. I could see the Celtics winning the first two fairly close games, and then the Celtics going up in game 3 and the Nets just getting frustrated and kind of packing it in.

Most likely case, the Nets win one of the first three on an incredible KI / KD performance to give them hope but they can't do that more than one or two games and the clincher is a blowout.
I voted for 5 in this poll as it seemed the most likely scenario, but I did put small money down on a sweep, so that was nice.

Credit to the Nets for fighting and making them all pretty close; I thought they would win one of the games at home if they didn't give up, but the Celtics were just too good it turns out.
 

benhogan

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Over 90% of the Board had the Celtics winning the Series, which basically started out as a pick 'em.

Good work, score one for the knuckle draggers and the predictive powers of SoSH
 

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I said 5 because I figured that game 3 in Brooklyn was a gimme for them, coming in 0-2. I overestimated KD's ability to fight this Celtics D and the NBA's willingness to assign Scott Foster to that game. The neutral game 3 ref assignment was impossible to see coming.