ESPN Is Pathetic

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We are in agreement.

Back in the day, I listened to (endured?) Mike and Mike in the morning. I hated it, but it was there.

Now I don't have any relationship with Greenie. I will have ESPN on in the background sometimes, with no volume, so he's on my screen occasionally. But I don't think I've heard him in over a decade. He's just a face and a body.
If there was even a whisper of a steroid issue anywhere they'd spend the entire fucking show re-hashing the entire debate. There was a year where they had to have done this atleast weekly.
 

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You have this often in art/entertainment. The person who shows up on time, does a competent job, makes things pleasant for the ones they work with, and is completely, utterly uninteresting. You do that and ask a competitive rate, and you'll stick around a long time without anybody ever liking you.
This is a great description of Tom Caron on NESN. He has been there since 1995.
 

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Exactly. I didn't watch the broadcast, so I saw nothing about Vaspergian's call on twitter
I listened to NESN on my phone, and Joe, ever the pro said deep file, waited, called it off the wall. He said it seemed gone to him off the bat, but in reality, was an out in most other places. Listening it seemed to be a fairly routine Fenway play where it was hard to tell off the bat. More than few times, as it seems Joe is teaching his partner, as much as broadcasting himself, I have heard him say, to just wait, because, especially in Fenway Park with the wall and the deep RF, you never know.
 

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Everyone I've seen is focusing on John Sterling's horrifically bad call - nobody is talking about Vasgerian's call.
Vasgerian called it wrong (as did the camera operator and Stanton), but unlike Sterling, he realized it instantly. Sterling looks like a fool, Vasgerian looks like he made a mistake.
 

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This is what I thought too. He's personable, he keeps things move, he's funny. I'm not sure what's not to like about him.
He doesn't have a big personality. Which is probably right for the gig that he has. Eck can be Eck for a few hours doing color, but doing Caron's gig he'd be a bit much. I personally like Caron just fine. I think the better example would be Dale Arnold, who even when he tries to be a big personality, just comes off like mayo on white bread.
 

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Caron is great: they did the "town halls" with John Farrell before the 2013 season. I attended the RI visit, and Tom made an interview with Farrell as interesting as it could be! I mean we now know the guy just wanted to be keeping to himself on a lobster boat.
 

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For those who were asking about what kind of camera ESPN uses for its football shallow depth of field shots, this is the rig for this year.
View: https://twitter.com/SVG_Brandon/status/1437574273703587841

For the 52nd season of Monday Night Football, @espn is introducing a new on-field camera. An ARRI Trinity stabilization system is outfitted w/ a Sony FX-9. It replaces the traditional Steadicam position and offers more control on shallow depth-of-field shots.
https://www.sportsvideo.org/2021/09/13/espn-debuts-new-on-field-camera-system-for-monday-night-football-with-sony-fx-9-on-arri-trinity-stabilizer/
 

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Who would buy it? The way cord cutting is going it's going to be tough to remain profitable eventually.
The only thing worth paying for nowadays is live sports. ESPN is good at that, especially since they have all of them in some capacity.
 

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The only thing worth paying for nowadays is live sports. ESPN is good at that, especially since they have all of them in some capacity.
ESPN is very bad a live sports in a streaming world. The NHL's move to ESPN+ is an infinitely worse experience than the MLBAM platform of years past. There are other sports moving there and it's where they will go to die. If you want recorded games spoiled alongside streaming with extra ads plus the worst FF/RW experience in all of streaming, then they have you covered. This will easily be the fewest B's games I watch in my lifetime, and it's due to ESPN+. I don't say this lightly, as I will have to deal with them professionally next year. I'm just so shocked and disappointed at the abject incompetence.
 

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ESPN is very bad a live sports in a streaming world. The NHL's move to ESPN+ is an infinitely worse experience than the MLBAM platform of years past. There are other sports moving there and it's where they will go to die. If you want recorded games spoiled alongside streaming with extra ads plus the worst FF/RW experience in all of streaming, then they have you covered. This will easily be the fewest B's games I watch in my lifetime, and it's due to ESPN+. I don't say this lightly, as I will have to deal with them professionally next year. I'm just so shocked and disappointed at the abject incompetence.
I streamed a hockey game yesterday on ESPN+ on one of my TVs. It was easy to start, it didn't stutter ever, and you can choose the home or the away feed.
 

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The only thing worth paying for nowadays is live sports. ESPN is good at that, especially since they have all of them in some capacity.
But they pay way too much. ESPN is only profitable because of the massive $$$ they get from cable subscriptions. ESPN's empire is based upon all those people who don't watch sports but ESPN is still getting 5-7 bucks a month from their cable bill.
 

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I streamed a hockey game yesterday on ESPN+ on one of my TVs. It was easy to start, it didn't stutter ever, and you can choose the home or the away feed.
I'd you only watch games live and don't mind all of the commercials and intermission, then I guess it would be fine. If you want to do anything else, it's horrible.
 

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I’m not sure why they don’t just go back to Dan Shulman. He does their radio stuff and is really pretty good. With Eduardo Perez to boot.
 

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El Clasico behind a paywall. Wonder how many more people would be tuned in if this was on ESPN instead of + and if the difference is worth what they are getting in subscription fees.
 

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El Clasico behind a paywall. Wonder how many more people would be tuned in if this was on ESPN instead of + and if the difference is worth what they are getting in subscription fees.
Getting the subs is worth it.

Of that there is no doubt. Carriage fees are dwindling.
 

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Can he do half the games nearest his location?
Can he *not* travel and do pbp remotely?
FWIW - - He's Toronto's regular pbp.

And he, Eduardo Perez and Jessica Mendoza were quite good on radio in the World Series. My one game experience with Perez on the statcast broadcast (the WC game, I think) was an eye-opener for me. I had always thought he was more of a JAG analyst, but he showed me a lot in that one game. Unless he's told to tone down the intelligent insight for games on the mother ship, he will be an improvement.
 

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https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2021/11/04/ESPN-Classic.aspx
ESPN Classic going dark at year end. I’ll admit I didn’t realize it was still on air. I’d imagine most of their programming is probably set for ESPN+ long term.
I loved the idea of ESPNClassic when it was launched. And I watched it a lot, then it got bumped to the pay tier and I didn't miss it. At the end of my run watching it, they started to get away from airing games. Do they still air games or is it all old TV shows and movies?
 

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I loved the idea of ESPNClassic when it was launched. And I watched it a lot, then it got bumped to the pay tier and I didn't miss it. At the end of my run watching it, they started to get away from airing games. Do they still air games or is it all old TV shows and movies?
They still do old games, lots of college football. I was there for its launch. ESPNews as well although that one is still hanging on by a thread. Classic Now flopped and they put so much of their effort into that show. After it tanked they had no resources left.
 

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https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2021/11/04/ESPN-Classic.aspx
ESPN Classic going dark at year end. I’ll admit I didn’t realize it was still on air. I’d imagine most of their programming is probably set for ESPN+ long term.
Opens up a channel for the ACC Network, among others.

I bet part of it is also that people tend to tune out anything that's standard definition if they have a choice in the matter. And if one tunes in to an old game in progress, you don't see the scoreboard like you do now, so it's not like one get a read on the game very quickly.
 

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Tim Kurkjian is the 2022 winner of the Baseball Writers Association of America's Career Excellence Award. I only know hi for his work on ESPN. I didn't agree with everything he said or wrote but always thought he was very good and cared about the game. Thus wasted working for ESPN. Yeah, I'm bitter with the 60 plus hours a week of football programming and not having a regular nightly Baseball Tonight. Still congratulations Tim.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32813153/espn-tim-kurkjian-2022-winner-bbwaa-career-excellence-award