Thats not what he's saying, he's saying that the Tide are a de facto pro team playing at the NCAA level, which makes their QBs look better than they are. And let's be honest, Mac Jones was throwing to a much better receiving corps than Cam Newton.
Yea, no, the 2020 WR corps was even worse than the 2019 one. And the 2019 receiving corps was the fourth best in the Pac12. The best WR on the 2020 squad holds the dubious distinction of being the NFL's only thousand yard receiver without a TD. Jakobi Meyers should never be leading an NFL team in receptions. And, sadly, NE's TE corps was even more execrable than the WR one. There's a reason that New England just cleaned house on the receiving corps, it's because they sucked.
I agree and if they trade down or pick in the late first early second I could see Alex Leatherwood and Landon Dickerson being great IOL fits (maybe they see Leatherwood as a tackle) in gap/power. Landon Dickerson is one of my favorite guys in this draft.
Darrisaw might be available but I would be shocked if he got past both the Chargers at 13 who need a LT and the Vikings who could use him as a guard or an OT. If Darrisaw is available he imo should be the pick. Scheme versatile OT.
LOL, pipe dream, no one is giving up so much as a 2nd or 3rd for JG let alone a 1st.
It’s no one in the know.
Maybe, but it was an awful big move, and those odds are in line with what you get when a pick is known. Vegas always knows.
Yes, it was a large move. Sharp accounts move odds dramatically in prop markets.
I don't think it will be. He's Jimmy G not a good QB. Other teams will settle on their QBs, and it will be no more an every week story than Fitz was last year. Mediocre vets who get to start over rookies aren't a real story once the season starts.
Sorry to single this out, but he's not Nathan Peterman (sorry to single Nathan out). Last year Mike Sando's canvas of NFL people had Jimmy G as the 17th-ranked QB (out of 35). He's prime Andy Dalton with health issues. And 25m is a decent QB contract: we've been spoiled by Cam's flexibility/desperation.
I assume that was before last year? I think opinion was probably much higher on him coming off the only full healthy productive season of his career. Another poor and injury plagued season, and the addition of and breakout of a bunch of other QBs has dropped him down the list.
I guess we have a very different opinion of what Garoppolo might be. I think he's a player that would improve the QB situation the 6 out of 9 teams that lose out on Lance/Fields/Jones (NE, HOU, DEN, NYG, WAS, PHI, CHI, CAR, NO). I don't think he gets traded for less than a 2nd round pick until after the draft.
This was pointed out already but:
I look at that group and I'm not at all sure I agree, because cost and health matter.
I understand the reasoning, but:
Jimmy wouldn't be costing the Patriots that money on the cap. He'd have to re-work his deal to convert the base salary to signing bonus and NLTBE incentives.
The Patriots have $12.6m in cap space right now per Miguel.
That'd be an amazing haul for SF. He was traded for a 2nd at the zenith of his potential and a few years younger. Now, Maiocco thinks an older, oft-injured QB who has revealed a modest ceiling (with great weapons) is worth a young vet who has value to NE's D and a 3rd rounder? Dream a little dream.
You are correct that it doesn't really matter, but he is inarguably worth less now than he was 3.5 years ago at the time of the trade, for a variety of reasons (health, contract, performance). And that will be proven out when no one gives SF a 1st, or a 2nd.
That's not happening. He ends up cut very soon. Niners will sit until the draft and hope someone gets anxious and throws them a 4th or 5th round pick.
Patriots should have gotten a first for him.
If SF trades Jimmy now they would then need a new QB to be the bridge guy. You're going to have to overpay.
It's all about acquisition cost. The Patriots are not going to trade significant assets for him. I'm not sure if they should want him. I can see why they would want him because he knows their system and at one time seemed the obvious heir to Brady's throne. There is reason to think he still has "upside" in the right system with the right coaching minus some of the injury "luck" (I'm putting this in quotes since I think there is a case to be made the injuries are more than bad luck at this point). If they do want him it would be for many of the same reasons they brought in Cam--the cost was low and the player had upside.
Maybe, but that has nothing to do with a trade now. He was traded for a 2nd rounder and I don't think his performance since warrants a favorable reappraisal.
That at least makes some sense in that he didn't pull the trade proposal out of thin air. Alex Smith didn't become a star until KC so there are some parallels in performance, but to compare durability, Smith was Fran Tarkenton to Garappolo's, well, Jimmy Garappolo.
I don't think that's accurate. They're slated to pay him $25M to be the starting QB.
Depends on the rookie and depends on the faith the organization has in the starter. We know based on their trade, SF does not have faith in their starter. We don't know anything about the rookie but there is reason to believe it's Mac Jones, and there is certainly reason to think if it is Mac Jones he is ready to lead an offense based on his experience.
This is not a flaw in the discussion, it's a question of which narrative you believe--if you (not you, but any person) believe SF is "happy" to pay JG 26 million than that person would be delusional. That being said, this is SF's narrative. However, we know they are not happy with him, or the money they are paying him, or else they wouldn't have paid such a tremendous amount to move up in the draft. Now maybe SF does stick with JG, but, if they do, that's only because they were not offered what they think he is worth. This is not me spouting, it's what the organization has already stated.
The "happy to pay" was a reference to the team that would trade for him.
