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Yea, I'm pretty skeptical. In August when he had the joint preservation surgery performed, the Globe spoke with an orthopedic surgeon at Tufts (albeit, not Pedey's actual surgeon), who said, "It’s a day-to-day-life procedure; it’s not a going-back-to-playing-sports procedure...It’s not compatible with playing high-impact sports.’’

I suppose we shall see, but I'm skeptical...
You owe $10 to @DaveRoberts'Shoes . I am also skeptical. Pedroia was so valuable because his quickness and positioning and its unlikely he will regain that after 2 years off, a major surgery and being 35 years old. Hopefully we're both wrong because I'd love it if Pedroia can go out on his own terms but that seems really unlikely.
 

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Does this make sense?
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/question-why-chris-sale-still-hasnt-seen-dr-andrews-followup-finally-asnswered?int
The Red Sox were holding out hope that Sale could pitch in October, should Boston reach the playoffs. Once the Red Sox fell hopelessly out of contention -- which was pretty much immediately -- they slowed Sale's timetable.............. it made the most sense to slow it down and give the most time possible to heal and go from there." So how is Sale doing? While he's still not throwing -- that won't begin until Andrews re-examines him, O'Halloran said, a visit that hasn't been scheduled yet-- he's progressing ..........Sale's agent, B.B. Abbott, told the Boston Globe that Sale has seen multiple doctors this fall,
- Why would Sale be seeing multiple doctors but not Dr.Andrews as previously planned?
- If he hasn't resumed throwing and hasn't been cleared to throw by a doctor, What is being considered progress?
- What am I missing??
 

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Does this make sense?
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/question-why-chris-sale-still-hasnt-seen-dr-andrews-followup-finally-asnswered?int


- Why would Sale be seeing multiple doctors but not Dr.Andrews as previously planned?
- If he hasn't resumed throwing and hasn't been cleared to throw by a doctor, What is being considered progress?
- What am I missing??
Dr. Andrews is probably busy. He's also based in Florida and Sale isn't. Other doctors are surely just as good at diagnosing and evaluating Sale's progress. That Sale hasn't seen him again isn't that big a deal. Especially if the time table isn't a rushed one and the primary recovery plan is rest. It's not as though he's going to take a turn for the worse by putting off a progress check by a week.

What is progress? Less or no pain. Less or no inflammation or swelling. Good results on tests or scans. Even if healthy, Sale wouldn't be throwing right now anyway so that he isn't is not really that concerning. There really will be no definitive answer about Sale until whatever date he would normally start his program to prepare for next season. My guess is that date isn't going to fall in November at the very least.
 

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Dr. Andrews is probably busy. He's also based in Florida and Sale isn't. Other doctors are surely just as good at diagnosing and evaluating Sale's progress. That Sale hasn't seen him again isn't that big a deal. Especially if the time table isn't a rushed one and the primary recovery plan is rest. It's not as though he's going to take a turn for the worse by putting off a progress check by a week.

What is progress? Less or no pain. Less or no inflammation or swelling. Good results on tests or scans. Even if healthy, Sale wouldn't be throwing right now anyway so that he isn't is not really that concerning. There really will be no definitive answer about Sale until whatever date he would normally start his program to prepare for next season. My guess is that date isn't going to fall in November at the very least.
You don't think if the Red Sox or Sale wanted an appointment with Dr. Andrews they couldn't get one ?
Also I believe Sale is a resident of Naples FL.
 

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I think it makes sense if the prescription is rest. Giving the elbow as long as possible to heal before doing a re-examination, such as just before he starts a throwing program, seems reasonable.

Not sure when these guys usually start throwing, but I'd bet they want him to wait as long as possible.
 

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You don't think if the Red Sox or Sale wanted an appointment with Dr. Andrews they couldn't get one ?
Also I believe Sale is a resident of Naples FL.
Sale had an appointment scheduled after his PRP injection.....apparently the Red Sox cancelled it as a way of being extra cautious which seems odd to me. Meanwhile, Sale has been seeing multiple other doctors. As a minimum it appears that the Red Sox and Sale have a difference of opinion about how to proceed.
 

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Sale had an appointment scheduled after his PRP injection.....apparently the Red Sox cancelled it as a way of being extra cautious which seems odd to me. Meanwhile, Sale has been seeing multiple other doctors. As a minimum it appears that the Red Sox and Sale have a difference of opinion about how to proceed.
Why do you say there's a difference of opinion? You don't think that if Sale wanted to see Andrews, he couldn't do it on his own? Perhaps if Andrews was local to wherever Sale is, they'd behave as if Andrews was his regular doctor and see each other more often. But they're not close enough to do that (even if they're both in FL, that doesn't mean it's a quick drive crosstown to make an appointment).

My assumption is the Sox have their regular doctors, perhaps Sale does too, and they're telling Sale the exact same thing that Andrews would if he went to him...stay on whatever course he's on of rest and/or rehab until it's time to start thinking about beginning a throwing program. Getting the doctor's A-OK to begin throwing right now doesn't really do much if Sale wouldn't normally start throwing in preparation for next season until Xmas anyway.
 

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Does this make sense?
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/question-why-chris-sale-still-hasnt-seen-dr-andrews-followup-finally-asnswered?int


- Why would Sale be seeing multiple doctors but not Dr.Andrews as previously planned?
- If he hasn't resumed throwing and hasn't been cleared to throw by a doctor, What is being considered progress?
- What am I missing??
Did you read the Globe piece Tomase is talking about? Sounds like no.

He's progressing in his workouts in Ft. Myers facility. He's had a lot of imaging done on his elbow, and Dr. Andrews has seen that imaging.

Until he starts pitching in games again, it will be impossible to say what the Red Sox will get from their star lefty. But all signs to date have been promising.

“He’s going into the [Red Sox facility in Fort Myers, Fla.] pretty much daily and doing really good,” said B.B. Abbott, Sale’s agent. “The arm feels really good. He’s reported back to us and told us that he expects this to be a completely normal offseason.

“I think some of the feedback we got from the orthopedic surgeons that looked at him thought that everything looked great.
The article also makes clear that the "multiple doctors" are the team's orthopedists, as well as consultants — including Andrews.

Abbott said Sale has not had a follow-up visit with Dr. James Andrews since the renowned orthopedist administered the PRP injection. But Abbott said Sale has been examined by others both inside and outside the Red Sox organization while remaining in touch with Andrews.

“I think they’ve been doing most of it in-house and then corresponding with Andrews, and then we had some other people get eyes on it as well,” said Abbott.

Red Sox GM Brian O’Halloran added that the Sox expect Sale to visit Andrews in the relatively near future, with the possibility that the lefthander could start throwing approximately one week after the visit, assuming he is cleared to do so.
 

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That last paragraph is a key piece of missing info: Sale will likely be seeing Dr. Andrews in the near future. Once he does, he will likely (hopefully) be cleared to begin the offseason throwing program one week later. Roughly 2 to 3 months for him to build up strength prior to Truck Day.
 

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That last paragraph is a key piece of missing info: Sale will likely be seeing Dr. Andrews in the near future. Once he does, he will likely (hopefully) be cleared to begin the offseason throwing program one week later. Roughly 2 to 3 months for him to build up strength prior to Truck Day.

OK, but if O'Halloran says one more time that Sale will be seeing Andrews "soon," it will be approaching "Grebeck is just about ready in extended ST" territory.
 

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Here’s my stab at a possible lineup for next year:
(h/t to @jon abbey, who does this sort of thing really well in the Yankee Discussion forum)

Betts - CF
Devers - 3B
Bogaerts - SS
Martinez - DH
Puig - RF
Zobrist - 2B
Pollock - LF
Cron - 1B
Casali - C

Bench:
Cervelli, Miller, Lin, Leury Garcia, Marco
Rotation:
Sale, Gray, Rodriguez, DeSclafani, Lopez, Hill (bulk)
Bullpen:
Hernandez, Barnes, Bummer, Stephenson, Kelly, Taylor, Brasier, Brewer

Trades (with Baseball Trade Values values):
- Vazquez (22.9), Workman (5.3) and Houck (4.8) to COL for Jon Gray (36.2)
- Price (-60) to LAD for Pollock (-41.3) and Kelly (-12.7)
- Bradley (2), Hembree (0) and Chavis (17.7) to CIN for DeSclafani (11.1), Stephenson (5.5) and Casali (2.3)
- Eovaldi (-29.5), Dalbec (18.8), and Johnson (0) to MIN for Cron (0)
- Benintendi (35.9), Mata (13.7) and Walden (5.8) to CWS for Lopez (23.1), Bummer (28.6) and Leury Garcia (6.4)

Signings (using Fangraphs crowd projections):
- Puig (3/$39m)
- Hill (1/$9m)
- Zobrist (1/$4m)
- Miller (1/$1m)
- Cervelli (1/$3m)

That team works out to be roughly $202m, using MLBTR projected arb figures).

Notes:
- The Eovaldi deal looks somewhat imbalanced, but I think the Twins do it given their window, their difficulty attracting FA starters, and Eovaldi’s rep as a Yankee killer. Dalbec could also step in at first and mash.
- The Price/Dodgers trade is obviously a very big deal, but I think it’s close enough to be able to work. Pollock grew up near Boston, fwiw, and while they probably want a do over on the Kelly deal, he actually had a very good year.
- The lineup would be pretty right-handed, but I don’t especially care about that. Swapping Miller for Cron could help if necessary. So would swapping in Leury Garcia, who becomes the new Brock Holt.
- Non-tender León, option Travis
 
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Thanks for the props! That is all very radical and interesting, one thing I'd say is that CIN wouldn't want both Chavis (1B/2B) and JBJ (CF) as that would block Senzel (CF/2B) as long as they have Votto (1B) who's not going anywhere.
 

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Thanks for the props! That is all very radical and interesting, one thing I'd say is that CIN wouldn't want both Chavis (1B/2B) and JBJ (CF) as that would block Senzel (CF/2B) as long as they have Votto (1B) who's not going anywhere.
You’re right, both of them in that deal is an obstacle. I’m really just trying to figure out a path to get DeSclafani and Stephenson. They seem to me like two of the offseason’s most under-the-radar rotation + pen targets, respectively.
 

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Has any team ever made that many trades in one offseason?
Probably not, but the Sox haven’t really made any “baseball trades” the last two years (a distinction which excludes deadline deals for Eovaldi, Kinsler and Cashner), so maybe it all evens out?

Speier’s story today reports that they’re active in trade discussions on just about everyone on the roster. I’ve merged that with my own bias, which is trying to keep Mookie and JDM on the team.

It’s a meaningless exercise, of course, but Bloom is definitely going to change things, and some of these guys (Cron, Miller, Gray) are targets for me given the circumstances.
 

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looking through those trades, it doesnt actually seem like a terrible record? The Haniger trade is an obvious huge win, he was able to get some good pieces for Cano and Diaz, who promptly imploded. The Dee Gordon trade doesnt look too bad either
 

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Cervelli, with his concussion issues, is toast as a catcher. Pittsburgh didn't want him to keep catching.
 

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Cervelli, with his concussion issues, is toast as a catcher. Pittsburgh didn't want him to keep catching.
That’s probably true. He reportedly said so himself, then complicated it later by retracting that statement and saying he wants to keep catching, then caught for the Braves down the stretch and mashed.

If he’s up for the short end of a timeshare while also playing first or second now and again for a contender, it could be the best offer he gets.
 

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Here’s my stab at a possible lineup for next year:
(h/t to @jon abbey, who does this sort of thing really well in the Yankee Discussion forum)

Betts - CF
Devers - 3B
Bogaerts - SS
Martinez - DH
Puig - RF
Zobrist - 2B
Pollock - LF
Cron - 1B
Casali - C

Bench:
Cervelli, Miller, Lin, Leury Garcia, Marco
Rotation:
Sale, Gray, Rodriguez, DeSclafani, Lopez, Hill (bulk)
Bullpen:
Hernandez, Barnes, Bummer, Stephenson, Kelly, Taylor, Brasier, Brewer

Trades (with Baseball Trade Values values):
- Vazquez (22.9), Workman (5.3) and Houck (4.8) to COL for Jon Gray (36.2)
- Price (-60) to LAD for Pollock (-41.3) and Kelly (-12.7)
- Bradley (2), Hembree (0) and Chavis (17.7) to CIN for DeSclafani (11.1), Stephenson (5.5) and Casali (2.3)
- Eovaldi (-29.5), Dalbec (18.8), and Johnson (0) to MIN for Cron (0)
- Benintendi (35.9), Mata (13.7) and Walden (5.8) to CWS for Lopez (23.1), Bummer (28.6) and Leury Garcia (6.4)

Signings (using Fangraphs crowd projections):
- Puig (3/$39m)
- Hill (1/$9m)
- Zobrist (1/$4m)
- Miller (1/$1m)
- Cervelli (1/$3m)

That team works out to be roughly $202m, using MLBTR projected arb figures).

Notes:
- The Eovaldi deal looks somewhat imbalanced, but I think the Twins do it given their window, their difficulty attracting FA starters, and Eovaldi’s rep as a Yankee killer. Dalbec could also step in at first and mash.
- The Price/Dodgers trade is obviously a very big deal, but I think it’s close enough to be able to work. Pollock grew up near Boston, fwiw, and while they probably want a do over on the Kelly deal, he actually had a very good year.
- The lineup would be pretty right-handed, but I don’t especially care about that. Swapping Miller for Cron could help if necessary. So would swapping in Leury Garcia, who becomes the new Brock Holt.
- Non-tender León, option Travis
Unless I am misunderstanding something, you've laid out a 28-man roster.
 

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Unless I am misunderstanding something, you've laid out a 28-man roster.
Right, good catch, didn’t exactly know how to list mL depth.

Lin’s out of options so Marco probably starts in the minors, along with Brewer from that group above. Hill would be a lock for an IL stint, but minor league bullpen depth includes Lakins, Brewer, Osich, Velazquez, Weber, Poyner, Maddox, et al.
 

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hmm. Packaging a good prospect with Eovaldi makes a certain level of sense, but I'd rather Chavis go than Dalbec
 

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I think many of us would agree that the Sox are likely to move either Betts or Bradley, there is a decent possibility that Holt moves on and less of JDM in the OF could be on the horizon. What do you think of Hunter Pence as a fourth outfielder type? He's been often injured and definitely on the back nine, but he made just $2 million last season and was more than serviceable hitting .297 with an OPS of .910, 18 HR, 59 RBI and 53 runs scored in what amounted to half a season (83 games).
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pencehu01.shtml
 

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What part of Dalbac’s career to date is as good as Chavis? Chavis’s OPS in the majors was as good as Dalbac’s in AAA.
Chavis has no position, Dalbec could be an elite 1B. Chavis was horrible after the book on him was out, with an exploitable hole in his swing. Dalbec should put up similar power numbers with better plate discipline and more walks.
 

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Chavis has 34 bad plate appearances in August while playing hurt, and never played again. Let’s also take out his fantastic 32 PA in April. He had a 786 OPS in July, 730 in June, and 788 in May. That’s hardly “horrible.”

At 23, he is a year younger than Dalbec.

Dalbec had a 825 OPS as a 24 year old in AA. He had a 779 OPS in AAA.

You can wishcast, sure. But, there’s simply no evidence that Dalbec is better than Chavis.
 

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Isn't Dalbec's whole issue that he swings at tons of balls out of the zone? That he has terrible plate discipline? I feel like guys who struggle recognizing breaking balls in the minors are the exact kind of player that dont do terribly well in the majors. He is a competent to good 3b but to be an elite 1B you need to be able to put up an OPS number ins the .900s. Joey Gallo is basically his best case outcome and Gallo is valuable because he can play the OF. If Chavis can play a competent 2b and hit around .750 that is valuable. A 1B with an .825 OPS is Mitch Moreland(or any of the other guys we can pick up on a one year deal for little cash). Dalbec seems like a guy that needs to be at 3b to be a valuable player so his highest value is on the trade market, unless we are moving Devers to 1B for him
 

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Isn't Dalbec's whole issue that he swings at tons of balls out of the zone? That he has terrible plate discipline?
He has a career walk rate of 11.7%, which while not quite eye-popping seems a bit high for a guy with "terrible plate discipline". I think the issues are more around pitch recognition + contact skills. But his BB/K numbers in Portland this year were very encouraging. He stumbled in Pawtucket late in the year, but he did exactly the same thing at Portland in 2018 and came back strong, so that doesn't worry me too much. Even if that 15%/24% Portland BB/K line translates to more like 10%/30% in the majors, that's livable with his power. He could be Mark Reynolds with better defense; that's not a superstar, but it's a useful lineup piece.

I think if the Sox had a long-term solution in place at 1B, trading Dalbec would be a no-brainer. As it is, though, with no real incumbent there and no long-term candidates on the FA market, it's probably worth keeping him around. Sign a placeholder like Mitchy or Smoak to a one-year deal, see how Dalbec develops in his first full year at AAA, and if all goes well, bring him up midyear, moving either him or Devers to 1B.
 

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Well, Casas is probably the long-term solution at first base, likely ready by 2022-23. That’s nothing to hang your hat on, but he’s a better prospect, and I’m not sure Dalbec is seasoned enough to be reliably useful during the 20-21 interim.

It seems like there are enough useful stopgap guys available to make it work in the meantime. Even if it’s Moreland again (not my first choice but ok), I doubt we could expect better numbers from Dalbec.
 

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No it's not.
From SoxProspects.com (bolded mine): "Approach needs some refinement. Lot of swing-and-miss in his game. Aggressive; likes to attack the ball. Pitch recognition needs some work; will get caught out in front too often against breaking balls, especially when behind in the count. Bat will be tested by more advanced pitching and will need to make the necessary adjustments."


That sure seems to support sean1562's suggestion that he swings at tons of balls out of the zone and has terrible plate discipline. Unless there's another Bobby Dalbec we're talking about.
 

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From SoxProspects.com (bolded mine): "Approach needs some refinement. Lot of swing-and-miss in his game. Aggressive; likes to attack the ball. Pitch recognition needs some work; will get caught out in front too often against breaking balls, especially when behind in the count. Bat will be tested by more advanced pitching and will need to make the necessary adjustments."


That sure seems to support sean1562's suggestion that he swings at tons of balls out of the zone and has terrible plate discipline. Unless there's another Bobby Dalbec we're talking about.
Isn't there a difference, though, between bad pitch recognition and bad plate discipline? Bad plate discipline to me means you have no plan up there and you just hack at anything that's close to hittable. Bad pitch recognition means you may have the right idea about being selective, but you get fooled a lot. Dalbec draws a fair number of walks, so unless that's just pitchers who are terrified of his power pitching around him to get to the next guy, he would appear to have some ability to lay off pitches.

His K rate went down considerably this year, from the mid-30s to the mid-20s. If that represents real progress, it's good news.
 

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Isn't there a difference, though, between bad pitch recognition and bad plate discipline? Bad plate discipline to me means you have no plan up there and you just hack at anything that's close to hittable. Bad pitch recognition means you may have the right idea about being selective, but you get fooled a lot. Dalbec draws a fair number of walks, so unless that's just pitchers who are terrified of his power pitching around him to get to the next guy, he would appear to have some ability to lay off pitches.

His K rate went down considerably this year, from the mid-30s to the mid-20s. If that represents real progress, it's good news.
The lower k-rate is encouraging. The low batting averages less so. It does sound much more like he knows which balls to swing at and lay off of, and just has a hard time connecting when he swings, like you said. The defense is supposed to be coming along as well. But unless there is an extreme need, or he absolutely destroys AAA for months, I don't think he is going to be in Boston before maybe September as a late call-up. It sounds like he still needs work on basically everything he can work on. Defense, pitch recognition, harnessing his power.
 

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I also strongly think it's crazy to definitively predict a person's offense going forward when that person had to play not one, but TWO positions at the major league level that he didn't play in the minors (0 games at second base going into 2019, 24 games at first base).

That's a lot to deal with.
 

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The lower k-rate is encouraging. The low batting averages less so.
He's going to have low batting averages; that's pretty much a given, because his K rates will always be at least worse than average, and as a flyball hitter he's unlikely to make up for that with BABIP. Fortunately batting averages aren't all that important. He could be a useful player even with a line of the .230/.330/.470 type and solid-average 3B defense. It's too soon to say if he can do even that, but it's a reasonable thing to hope for given his minor league record so far, and he could be better than that if the mid-20s K rates translate to the majors and the Monster is kind to him.
 

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Yankees DFAed Greg Bird. IMO absolute no brainer to claim him based on potential alone.
 

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He absolutely stinks and can't stay on the field. Last 3 years he's played a combined 140 games and can't hit above .200.
I realize there's a reason why he's DFAed. But given the lack of young talent in the system they could do worse than have him taking up a 40 man spot and gambling on him reaching his potential
 

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Chris Taylor and Justin Turner say hi!
Taylor seems like a legitimate comp, with an injury derailment at a similar age. Turner's a completely different kind of story -- just a guy who got overlooked until the right opportunity with the right organization came along. I will say that identifying guys like Turner is exactly the kind of thing I hope the Sox will get better at under Bloom. But Bird doesn't seem like that kind of guy; everybody knows what he can do, he just can't seem to get healthy enough to do it.
 

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Chris Taylor and Justin Turner say hi!
There are certainly a lot of players you can say this about. Ortiz and Bautista come to mind immediately EE as well. Although I would never compare Greg Bird to most of them Jose Bautista was a fledgling bench player who couldn't stay healthy until he got playing time (and most likely a good HGH dealer) so you never know. Wouldn't be an awful thing to take a risk on this player. He's largely an unknown due to his injury issues and quite honestly he's also cheap. This is the kind of signing that the Rays have been known for in the past (Logan Morrison) and honestly, the Sox can fit under their payroll constraints. Obviously the questions are there such as his struggles against fastballs over 95 and most importantly his health.
 

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There are certainly a lot of players you can say this about. Ortiz and Bautista come to mind immediately EE as well. Although I would never compare Greg Bird to most of them Jose Bautista was a fledgling bench player who couldn't stay healthy until he got playing time (and most likely a good HGH dealer) so you never know. Wouldn't be an awful thing to take a risk on this player. He's largely an unknown due to his injury issues and quite honestly he's also cheap. This is the kind of signing that the Rays have been known for in the past (Logan Morrison) and honestly, the Sox can fit under their payroll constraints. Obviously the questions are there such as his struggles against fastballs over 95 and most importantly his health.
What is everyone holding onto with Bird? In 700 career plate appearances, he has a .211 BA with an OPS+ of 94.
 

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What is everyone holding onto with Bird? In 700 career plate appearances, he has a .211 BA with an OPS+ of 94.
Before he got hurt, he was a 23-year-old who had just put up slash lines of .301/.353/.500 in AAA and .261/.343/.529 in MLB. Injuries have kept him from realizing his potential, but he was on his way to becoming a useful everyday player, a power-hitting 1B with average defense. At 27, it's not inconceivable he could put the pieces back together, though the smart money would certainly be against it.
 
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Taylor seems like a legitimate comp, with an injury derailment at a similar age. Turner's a completely different kind of story -- just a guy who got overlooked until the right opportunity with the right organization came along. I will say that identifying guys like Turner is exactly the kind of thing I hope the Sox will get better at under Bloom. But Bird doesn't seem like that kind of guy; everybody knows what he can do, he just can't seem to get healthy enough to do it.
All 30 teams are looking for guys that are undervalued. We can't expect Bloom to be smarter than everyone else.

Ortiz said that he was mediocre for the Twins because they wanted him to hit ball to the opposite field to minimize strikeouts. Did the Sox realize he would become a HOF DH if they let him pull the ball or were they just lucky.
 

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deep inside Guido territory
Before he got hurt, he was a 23-year-old who had just put up slash lines of .301/.353/.500 in AAA and .261/.343/.529 in MLB. Injuries have kept him from realizing his potential, but he was on his way to becoming a useful everyday player, a power-hitting 1B with average defense. At 27, it's not inconceivable he could put the pieces back together, though the smart money would certainly be against it.
I know what he was, but that was 4 years ago. It's pretty inconceivable that he's going to even remotely reach whatever potential he had. In 2018 which was his biggest MLB sample size of 311 ABs, he had a slash line of .199/.286/.386